Read Your Role Mafia - Game Over

Caboose · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:51 pm

MafiaSSK wrote:
Unvote, vote Sociopath

I want an explanation of this vote.

RandomGem · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:56 pm

Sorry for disappearing, and right before deadline too! I'll be sure to be here tomorrow, though I can only log on about 4 hours before deadline...
I'm wondering what the HECK happened with that bandwagon on SocioPath. First, in Post 329, Yaw votes SocioPath, saying he's 85% sure (then says it again in Post 331). Note that at this point, he is (I think) the ONLY vote on SocioPath. Then SensFan, Electra, and Empking say they want a claim from SocioPath. This before Yaw posts any case. Sure, the votes came after Yaw posted a case, but what reason was there to call for a claim? Did I miss something, or was the stuff before that just the argument about PMs (which IMO, was just a misunderstanding).

About SocioPath's role claim... well, I have my thoughts about it, but if my thoughts are correct, then it would be best not to state them.

And then along with the bandwagoning, in comes MafiaSSK giving an unbacked vote, which might possibly have been the hammer. Although... there was no votecount before to show it was L-1...
I still think it's scummy, and so I must

Vote: MafiaSSK

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SensFan · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:09 pm

RandomGem wrote:or was the stuff before that just the argument about PMs (which IMO, was just a misunderstanding).

He claimed non-Townie, in my eyes. Therefore, he needed to full-claim.

Electra · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:14 pm

Caboose wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
Unvote, vote Sociopath
I want an explanation of this vote.

He's obviously given up on playing this game and intended to move things to night. He already said that he's fine with his own lynch, so he's probably not going to give any explanation.

I don't really understand people saying they're voting him solely for the claim and now that he's claimed, it's fine. Would you believe him if he claimed unnightkillable doctor?

Yaw · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:26 pm

RandomGem: Well, I did say in the initial posts that people should read through SocioPath's posts for the evidence. I can only assume that those requesting a claim did so. (Either that, or they're really trusting in my judgment, which surprises me a little after the lack of support for a charter-wagon earlier.)

RandomGem · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:43 pm

Yaw: Well, the 3 posts I'm talking about go like:

SensFan wrote:I want a claim from SocioPath.

Electra wrote:I would also like a claim from SocioPath. :p

Also, ooba, it's true that SSK did what you said he did, but why does that make him scummier? It just makes him annoying. Generally the most annoying people aren't scum.

Empking wrote:Yeah, Sociopath should claim.

We should also drp the townie special notes thing.

To me, the posts make no real indication that they have in fact read the posts of SocioPath.

SensFan · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:45 pm

Random, plan on responding to the post 2 yours where I explain my push for a claim?

charter · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:58 pm

I don't think SP is scum, I think MafiaSSK is.

RandomGem · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:02 pm

SensFan: Oops, sorry.

SensFan wrote:
RandomGem wrote:or was the stuff before that just the argument about PMs (which IMO, was just a misunderstanding).
He claimed non-Townie, in my eyes. Therefore, he needed to full-claim.

Okay... I guess you were right after Yaw, which isn't really much of a bandwagon, and you explained that you wanted more than a non-townie claim later... but on the other hand, you could have made that up after the fact for all I know.

That wondering is exactly the reason why I don't like the 3 calls for a claim without any real backing.

SensFan · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:03 pm

RandomGem wrote:SensFan: Oops, sorry.
SensFan wrote:
RandomGem wrote:or was the stuff before that just the argument about PMs (which IMO, was just a misunderstanding).
He claimed non-Townie, in my eyes. Therefore, he needed to full-claim.
Okay... I guess you were right after Yaw, which isn't really much of a bandwagon, and you explained that you wanted more than a non-townie claim later... but on the other hand, you could have made that up after the fact for all I know. That wondering is exactly the reason why I don't like the 3 calls for a claim without any real backing.

Did you expect a post that said "SP just soft-claimed non-Townie, whether he knows it or not. I think he should claim now."?

Yaw · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:30 pm

The point was more that you didn't vote.

My point to RandomGem above was more that I did make a point of at least pointing people at stuff they could read to indicate that SocioPath was scum. So it wasn't that I gave no reason for a SocioPath wagon initially, which is what seemed to be indicated.

SensFan · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:34 pm

Yaw wrote:The point was more that you didn't vote.

Meh, I didn't necessarily want a wagon when I asked for a claim. I only voted when he asked me to.

Empking · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:09 am

I really don't understand RG.

He soft claimed, if he is scum we didn't want him to know that did we.

RandomGem · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:24 pm

Ok. Did the calls for a claim have anything to do with Yaw's call for a bandwagon? I'm just uncomfortable with the way SocioPath's wagon popped up suddenly.

I'm still for a MafiaSSK lynch, but I concede that this probably will not happen in under 2 hours...

SensFan · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:30 pm

RandomGem wrote:Ok. Did the calls for a claim have anything to do with Yaw's call for a bandwagon? I'm just uncomfortable with the way SocioPath's wagon popped up suddenly.

I explained VERY CLEARLY EXACTLY why I asked for a claim. Are you purposefully ignoring me?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:32 pm

Fine. I'll claim I'm a Survivor. I had basically given up on this game but I guess I shouldn't. Surior should be an easy enough win condition to fulfill.

SensFan · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:34 pm

MafiaSSK wrote:Fine. I'll claim I'm a Survivor. I had basically given up on this game but I guess I shouldn't. Surior should be an easy enough win condition to fulfill.

You need to start scumhunting, or you WILL be lynched.

ShadowGirl · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:36 pm

Caboose wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
Unvote, vote Sociopath
I want an explanation of this vote.

RandomGem · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:42 pm

SensFan wrote:
RandomGem wrote:Ok. Did the calls for a claim have anything to do with Yaw's call for a bandwagon? I'm just uncomfortable with the way SocioPath's wagon popped up suddenly.
I explained VERY CLEARLY EXACTLY why I asked for a claim. Are you purposefully ignoring me?

Was talking to Empking. Sorry.

...When was MafiaSSK asked to claim?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:42 pm

ShadowGirl wrote:
Caboose wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
Unvote, vote Sociopath
I want an explanation of this vote.

Said he was at L1 so I wanted to hammer.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:43 pm

RandomGem wrote:
SensFan wrote:
RandomGem wrote:Ok. Did the calls for a claim have anything to do with Yaw's call for a bandwagon? I'm just uncomfortable with the way SocioPath's wagon popped up suddenly.
I explained VERY CLEARLY EXACTLY why I asked for a claim. Are you purposefully ignoring me?
Was talking to Empking. Sorry.

...When was MafiaSSK asked to claim?

Never. But nearly everyone supports my lynch which is as bad as being at L2.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:44 pm

RandomGem wrote:
SensFan wrote:
RandomGem wrote:Ok. Did the calls for a claim have anything to do with Yaw's call for a bandwagon? I'm just uncomfortable with the way SocioPath's wagon popped up suddenly.
I explained VERY CLEARLY EXACTLY why I asked for a claim. Are you purposefully ignoring me?
Was talking to Empking. Sorry.

...When was MafiaSSK asked to claim?

Never. But nearly everyone supports my lynch which is as bad as being at L2.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:51 pm

SensFan wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:Fine. I'll claim I'm a Survivor. I had basically given up on this game but I guess I shouldn't. Surior should be an easy enough win condition to fulfill.
You need to start scumhunting, or you WILL be lynched.

Why?

SensFan · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:55 pm

Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.

Have a nice, lurkish, day!

Caboose · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:56 pm

MafiaSSK wrote:Fine. I'll claim I'm a Survivor. I had basically given up on this game but I guess I shouldn't.
Surior should be an easy enough win condition to fulfill
.

SSK wrote:Why?

You're not helping us with our win condition, so why should we help us with yours? (or your supposed one)