Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Harley Quinn]

actually, no, doesn't matter. Dragons is voting the not mafia so I wanna vote out dragons

Saying you want player X to endgame and then wanting pair with them=I want to endgame.

[Andante]

So I'm not really liking your argument here for Galron scum, not gonna lie. he very well could be scum, but this argument is meh

[Andante]

and what's wrong with wanting to endgame??

[Andante]

if all town joined the game like "I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT TO ENDGAME" what's the point in even playing this? If someone wants to endgame, they're actually trying. I know Fire and I aren't, so I haven't been too stressed for good reads, its been pretty fun!! like, obviously endgaming people should have read most of the past 5000 posts... that's just madness though lol

[Andante]

like, TWO. HUNDRED. PAGES.... wow

[Harley Quinn]

and what's wrong with wanting to endgame??

Why would you care that much about that as town? Maybe it is nia but it’s a thought that mattered way more to me when I was scum but it also depends on who Marci’s buddies are too. I knew I’d have to be the one to carry since my buddies were being really scummy.

[Andante]

Alright, I'm off for the next 24ish hours. I wish all of you the happiest of holidays!!!

[Galron]

im in camp "lets have fun"
we have a story pt in this camp,

This is neat, and to a certain degree AI maybe.

[Galron]

thats a townie thought if ive ever seen one

This has been bugging me since marci's flip. It was regarding my slight town lean on RH9 for his posting style.

[Galron]

I want to see what the game looks like to you if you suppose shiro, hq, myself and std are town.

Not to me, but I'm going to tackle it from my POV.

If shiro, harley quinn, titus and std town and

taly, galron, not_mafia and norwee are town and marci scum

that leaves

Firebringer & Andante
& Ydrasse
Datisi & GuiltyLion
RH9 & Alyssa the Lamb
& Something_Smart

And I, like apparently everyone else, believe that my partner is town

So 3 scum in:

Firebringer & Andante
& Ydrasse
Datisi & GuiltyLion
RH9 & Alyssa the Lamb

Not talking about Ydra

So let's say 3 scum in

Firebringer & Andante
Datisi & GuiltyLion
RH9 & Alyssa the Lamb

That means one scum in each of the above or one S/S pair

I have tr on RH9 and Alyssa, although I need to go back and figure out why I do TR Alyssa

Firebringer & Andante
Datisi & GuiltyLion

All three scum in the above?

Man that's tough. I don't think I can get there. Fire and Andante I lean town on. Datisi and GL not so sure.

[Galron]

I'd have to reassess S_S, RH9 and Alyssa I think.

[Galron]

Titus am i right or wrong if i say u don't really think individually what GL or even dats is scummy. You are just poking around what is happening with game and think whats happening with those two smelly.

Like its not an individual read is what im saying.
Right or wrong

Mix of both.
I hate GL's opening.
I hate Datisi's push on HQ and Shiro.
I hate how their reads are carbon copies.
I hate how they don't seem to acknowledge the viable scum pool is really low due to marci interactions.

This is actually where it kinda leaves me I guess.

[Galron]

Galron - Disrupted marci plan with LLD
Datisi
Catboi Shiro - Catboi was obvtown, Shiro has insane WIM outside of his range
Taly - IC
RH9
Firebringer - Personally against here
Save the Dragons - WIM, early mindmeld, scum objected to the bond


Ydrasse
GuiltyLion
Cabd Something_Smart - High WIM for SS,
angielily Harley Quinn
Alyssa the Lamb - Alyssa suggesting marci tilted is unlikely svs as it undermines scum.
Adante
Lady Lambdadelta Titus - Me, I feel that the push to force LLD to bond with marci clears me.


Pool is Ydrasse, GL, Datisi, Fire, Adante, Rh9.
Ydrasse isn't getting limmed.
Limming Rh9 is not going to happen w/o a strong case bc sacrificing Alyssa.

from your pov why wouldn't a scum!Galron fight a scum!marci for distancing purposes when he proposed to LLD?

[Galron]

Pool is Ydrasse, GL, Datisi, Fire, Adante, Rh9.
Ydrasse isn't getting limmed.
Limming Rh9 is not going to happen w/o a strong case bc sacrificing Alyssa.

Pisses me off that I agree with this but I have no clue about shiro meta.

My tinfoil has transformed into aluminum.

Fuck.

[Galron]

RH9 is significantly more reticent than I would expect from him as town. Normally he's very expressive and inquisitive, even if indecisive and prone to discursive tangents.

I'm not sure if I'll be back tonight or not, but I can check in again tomorrow at the latest.

i don't know rh9 well since i've never played with him before, but i enjoyed his posts so far and i dont think any of them seem off.

Here's why.

Cabd is very good in a PT, Taly mostly uses them. So town Cabd will rock out for a day do some work and die..
Scum Cabd on the other hand is locked into a terrible postion and will need to make another member of his team actually good enough to carry.

Which... Maybe is possible maybe isn't.

But I see win-win here

i think this is a decent idea if talys confident in being able to read cabd.

Hmmm . . . this looks good for SS and possibly suspicious for RH9.

This, combined with my earlier tr of rH9 that marci pointed out makes me want to lean scum on rh9, but titus is right. Limming rh9 means limming alyssa, and I don't know that that's a good idea, is it.

[Galron]

Fire, is Galron good or bad?

Being hyperfocused like that in endgaming isn’t generally a townie thought. Saying LLD should endgame by itself: townie. Saying I want to pair with that player that - I right out of the gate - want to endgame - not so much.

I mean hey, if scum knows it's not towny to say that, why even say that? Could just be scummy town? idk, I haven't read much of Galron (or anyone else really for that matter) but if town wants to pair with another town to endgame with them, what's wrong with that? Obviously Galron TRed LLD, and if Galron wants to endgame, he should be putting in that endgame type of effort, if no effort, then ehhh. but I see nothing wrong with "I was X to endgame, and I want to pair with X" on its own

At that point, though, I wasn't really townreading LLD. I wanted to be in a PT so I cold solve her. Problem is I asked in a weird way that has been attempted to be explained to me is scummy, but I still don't understand because of what you just said.

[Galron]

actually, no, doesn't matter. Dragons is voting the not mafia so I wanna vote out dragons

Saying you want player X to endgame and then wanting pair with them=I want to endgame.

But if I'm town, and I want a strong player to endgame, why wouldn't I choose myself to try to endgame with them?

[Titus]

from your pov why wouldn't a scum!Galron fight a scum!marci for distancing purposes when he proposed to LLD?

To what end? I don't see a positive outcome from that. Discrediting marci makes it harder to pair. If it looks awkward, you both get sussed.

[Galron]

and what's wrong with wanting to endgame??

Why would you care that much about that as town? Maybe it is nia but it’s a thought that mattered way more to me when I was scum but it also depends on who Marci’s buddies are too. I knew I’d have to be the one to carry since my buddies were being really scummy.

The thing is, you want to ensure that the endgame pair is T/T. I had it in my head that if I didn't think LLD was Town, I would leave. I couldn't trust anyone else, other than Taly who I think was already paired but maybe not, to be in a T/T (assuming LLD town) pairing.

[Galron]

from your pov why wouldn't a scum!Galron fight a scum!marci for distancing purposes when he proposed to LLD?

To what end? I don't see a positive outcome from that. Discrediting marci makes it harder to pair. If it looks awkward, you both get sussed.

Fair enough.

[Galron]

FWIW I still don't know why it's anti-town to talk about Ydra but whatever.

[Galron]

And hey! It's almost Christmas Day, and here I am playing this dumb game.

Merry Christmas, my friends.

[RH9]

Christmas Day is ending for me.

[RH9]

In 5 hours, Christmas will be a long way for me again.

[RH9]

Titus am i right or wrong if i say u don't really think individually what GL or even dats is scummy. You are just poking around what is happening with game and think whats happening with those two smelly.

Like its not an individual read is what im saying.
Right or wrong

Mix of both.
I hate GL's opening.
I hate Datisi's push on HQ and Shiro.
I hate how their reads are carbon copies.
I hate how they don't seem to acknowledge the viable scum pool is really low due to marci interactions.

What is wrong with GL's opening? And GL and Datisi might share reads because they share a PT and consult each other before posting.