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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:24 am

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burmmmm, um, what else are you looking for?


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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:25 am

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Porkens wrote:burmmmm, um, what else are you looking for?
what?
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:27 am

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fleurdelys wrote:You are The Prince (town), you know, the son of a king, who appears in most stories in which there’s also a beautiful girl.
this looks like the whole roleclaim to me. What parts do you think are missing?
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:27 am

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dahill1 wrote:
Porkens wrote:burmmmm, um, what else are you looking for?
what?
i second that... what?
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:30 am

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Porkens wrote:
fleurdelys wrote:You are The Prince (town), you know, the son of a king, who appears in most stories in which there’s also a beautiful girl.
this looks like the whole roleclaim to me. What parts do you think are missing?
well..you know...THE MISSION!
her mission was the main reason i believed the claim..
are you telling me you believed fleur just because of the above quote by her?
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:33 am

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I think the mission was obvious. Yeah that's what I'm telling you. That's why I unvoted.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:35 am

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How was the mission obvious? As a Prince there could be tons of different missions to be given out, it's not like "Oh Prince role, then he MUST be after Cinderella" it could be "Oh hes after rapunzel" or snow white, sleeping beauty etc.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:36 am

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Porkens wrote:I think the mission was obvious. Yeah that's what I'm telling you. That's why I unvoted.
hmm this is getting interesting..so you could tell just from the her role description that her mission was to look for Cinderella and if he did he would become masons with her?
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:37 am

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It said in her claim that the prince was always looking for some girl.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:37 am

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wolframnhart wrote:How was the mission obvious? As a Prince there could be tons of different missions to be given out, it's not like "Oh Prince role, then he MUST be after Cinderella" it could be "Oh hes after rapunzel" or snow white, sleeping beauty etc.
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there is no way he could have just known it was Cinderella
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:38 am

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Porkens wrote:It said in her claim that the prince was always looking for some girl.
no it didn't it said
"appears in most stories in which there’s also a beautiful girl"
that in no way implies looking for a girl
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:40 am

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what i got from her claim (before the mission claim), was that someone probably has the role name of a beautiful girl (Cinderella, Rapunzel, Sleeping Beauty, etc)
but now after the mission claim, it's obviously Cinderella
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:43 am

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Well, it was pretty obvious to me that someone who claimed "prince charming" would also claim a mission "find a/the princess."
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:01 am

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what about fighting the dragon? i could fight a dragon:P
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:08 am

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lol fair enough
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:58 am

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Wow, so what, y'all decided to vote me because I had nothing to contribute for all of one post? Sheesh. I've been swamped the last few days and haven't had much chance to post, and when I did I knew I wouldn't have much time to post so I wanted to voice my aproval of the direction the town was taking. Also, when I said Fleur was using the newbie card, she WAS. I stand by that.

For now, though, I'm going to
Unvote
. The amount of completely newbish play from Fleur is overwhelming. When I've seen the newbie card used by scum as a get-out-of-jail-free, it's been to explain an isolated incident- i.e., they get better in the future, it's not the way they act 100% of the time. I'm willing to write off Fleur as very newbish town. This is supported by the mission- given the above statement that I believe Fleur to be a newb, not acting the newb, I don't think she's capable of fakeclaiming that mission. She also wouldn't have put '(town)' in her claim.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:44 pm

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Gorrad wrote:Wow, so what, y'all decided to vote me because I had nothing to contribute for all of one post? Sheesh. I've been swamped the last few days and haven't had much chance to post, and when I did I knew I wouldn't have much time to post so I wanted to voice my aproval of the direction the town was taking. Also, when I said Fleur was using the newbie card, she WAS. I stand by that.
Sure. Where was she using the newb card at that point? In my book, acknowledging the fact that one is new =/= scummy newbie card use, especially if the acknowledgement comes in response to someone asking whether the player in question is a newbie. So, explain, please.

Also, you seem to imply that very-newb Fleur wouldn't be capable of fakeclaiming the mission the way she did. Do we know whether Pie Is Good extends to mission fake-claims as well? I was under the impression that mod-provided safeclaims might very well include missions.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:48 pm

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Gorrad wrote:Wow, so what, y'all decided to vote me because I had nothing to contribute for all of one post? Sheesh. I've been swamped the last few days and haven't had much chance to post, and when I did I knew I wouldn't have much time to post so I wanted to voice my aproval of the direction the town was taking.
Also, when I said Fleur was using the newbie card, she WAS. I stand by that.

For now, though, I'm going to
Unvote
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The amount of completely newbish play from Fleur is overwhelming. When I've seen the newbie card used by scum as a get-out-of-jail-free, it's been to explain an isolated incident- i.e., they get better in the future, it's not the way they act 100% of the time. I'm willing to write off Fleur as very newbish town
. This is supported by the mission- given the above statement that I believe Fleur to be a newb, not acting the newb, I don't think she's capable of fakeclaiming that mission. She also wouldn't have put '(town)' in her claim.
I see some contradiction. Here you say you stand by on your statement that Fleur was pulling a newbie card and then later in the post you state that fleur is a newbie not acting purposely to be a newbie. So in the short amount of time from your last post when you stated that you agree with everybody else and your vote stands you suddenly jump off the wagon when it loses heat and you second guess yourself. Also to add that you stated that your vote stands "even when she claimed her role" So why all of a sudden when the fleur wagon loses momentum do you suddenly find her newbish town? This I find pretty scummy and I'm not satisfied with your "I just wanted to say I agree with everybody else" I understand people in real life are busy but at least wait at a time where you can speak your reasoning and thoughts instead of just posting a short post which contains no substance to back your vote and it's just an easy way to go along with the biggest bandwagon.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:54 pm

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Biohazard wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Wow, so what, y'all decided to vote me because I had nothing to contribute for all of one post? Sheesh. I've been swamped the last few days and haven't had much chance to post, and when I did I knew I wouldn't have much time to post so I wanted to voice my aproval of the direction the town was taking.
Also, when I said Fleur was using the newbie card, she WAS. I stand by that.

For now, though, I'm going to
Unvote
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The amount of completely newbish play from Fleur is overwhelming. When I've seen the newbie card used by scum as a get-out-of-jail-free, it's been to explain an isolated incident- i.e., they get better in the future, it's not the way they act 100% of the time. I'm willing to write off Fleur as very newbish town
. This is supported by the mission- given the above statement that I believe Fleur to be a newb, not acting the newb, I don't think she's capable of fakeclaiming that mission. She also wouldn't have put '(town)' in her claim.
I see some contradiction. Here you say you stand by on your statement that Fleur was pulling a newbie card and then later in the post you state that fleur is a newbie not acting purposely to be a newbie. So in the short amount of time from your last post when you stated that you agree with everybody else and your vote stands you suddenly jump off the wagon when it loses heat and you second guess yourself. Also to add that you stated that your vote stands "even when she claimed her role" So why all of a sudden when the fleur wagon loses momentum do you suddenly find her newbish town? This I find pretty scummy and I'm not satisfied with your "I just wanted to say I agree with everybody else" I understand people in real life are busy but at least wait at a time where you can speak your reasoning and thoughts instead of just posting a short post which contains no substance to back your vote and it's just an easy way to go along with the biggest bandwagon.
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you go from "Fleur was definitely using the newb card" to "I'm willing to write her off as newb town"
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:57 pm

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The key changing point was the mission claim, and there were a good deal of posts between my last two. Also, I misphrased- there, she was acting in a way that made me think she was using the newbie card. If I was in that situation again, I would think so again. However, her later actions made it clear it was not the card, but rather the fact that she is a newb.

The card she was using was not as an excuse yet, but rather the whole 'I assume it's day' right after the day post, etc. Obvious newbie play in a non-newbie game. That just screamed to me that she was trying to play us for saps.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:24 pm

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Gorrad wrote:The card she was using was not as an excuse yet, but rather the whole 'I assume it's day' right after the day post, etc. Obvious newbie play in a non-newbie game. That just screamed to me that she was trying to play us for saps.
Did you check and see that she joined the site four days before the game started and consider that? These following are all Gorrad quotes (I'm being ever so slightly lazy and not putting his name in the code):

Further:
I dislike the newbie card. I'm not sure I've ever seen it played by town. More Fleur votes!
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See above post. You're using the newbie card- you're using it BIG TIME. I don't trust it.
Then:
Also, when I said Fleur was using the newbie card, she WAS. I stand by that.
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Also, I misphrased- there, she was acting in a way that made me think she was using the newbie card. If I was in that situation again, I would think so again. However, her later actions made it clear it was not the card, but rather the fact that she is a newb.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:43 pm

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Gorrad wrote:The key changing point was the mission claim, and there were a good deal of posts between my last two. Also, I misphrased- there, she was acting in a way that made me think she was using the newbie card. If I was in that situation again, I would think so again. However, her later actions made it clear it was not the card, but rather the fact that she is a newb.

The card she was using was not as an excuse yet, but rather the whole 'I assume it's day' right after the day post, etc. Obvious newbie play in a non-newbie game. That just screamed to me that she was trying to play us for saps.
I can't find this explanation credible. The reason because as Plum pointed you stand by your newbie card accusation even if your last post then suddenly state you misphrased it. I'm seeing that when pressured with my previous post you change your statement into saying it was a "misphrasing of words" instead of standing by your oringal statement. I think your just changing your words to slide out of suspicion and I don't like. As stated in Plum's post you stated you "stand by the newbie card statement" then when I question it it suddenly becomes "I meant to say I thought she was using the newbie card until later" hence why I can't find your explanation credible.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:50 pm

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In those first two quotes, I still found Fleur to be scummy, so I thought it was the newbie card (Second definiton below). In the third, the context had changed. I said newbie card to mean that she was acting like a newb at the time, not to mean she was scum using the fact that she's a new player to her advantage as I had had used it to mean before. I could have chosen a better way to phrase it, but I didn't, and when questioned I clarified.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:28 pm

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I'd honestly like to hear a little more from Spyrex at this point.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:36 pm

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Why was it dropped,
the case on the fop?

Although not terrific,
my character is
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I'd say the same,
for all of your names.

Why would "The Prince"
somehow convince?

Cheap as a penny,
in the stories so many.

And call it fishin'
but, really, "missions"?

And how to surmise,
that "the town dies"

With a loud crack,
her pedal went back

I'd leap off a cliff,
if she really mean "what if"

Instead I sure think,
a move on the brink.

As for the shoe,
is that a clue?

(I find it alarming,
she mentioned not "Charming")

Consider how glum,
she thought it was scum.

As an aside,
my brain was fried.

As the sheer speed,
you made Porkens bleed.

With the breath of a dragon,
Came the burst of that wagon

Faster than on
the scummy spawn

Which causes critique,
because that case is weak

When it is compared,
to miss scummy squared.
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