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[ssbm_Kyouko]

Nyeh

[Almost50]

I'd rather not flip andres

Fine. It was just a proposition. My vote is still on ssbm if you didn't notice.

[RCEnigma]

Here's me submitting a motion eliminate Andres, on the condition that if he flips Town we insta elim both JV & ssbm next. JV is damn too sus (in addition to ssbm) for outing the JK AND still not voting ssbm after that. How say the TOWN??

Meh, kyouko feels pretty aimless. If they flip red then yeah Jackson is likely red with them but I'm not sold on kyouko being more than aimless town.

[RCEnigma]

In realtime the interaction with fua was gross but town have bad takes all the time.

[fua]

Since we don’t have much time left in the day anyway and there probably won’t be a counterwagon on the scum, I’m the Town Jailkeeper. Sheep me on Kyoko because they’re clearly obvious scumming and should be taken out. Their post is either grasping at straws to try to reinforce my wagon or calling me stupid enough to openly claim scum out in public, which I don’t appreciate.

Mafia will never kill me and I’ll be miselimmed later anyways. Better to force mafia to kill the suspicious slot and remove the utility of their strongman (if Kyoko isn’t their strongman anyways) than lose two townies.

Also kinda disgusting you think I'm calling you stupid with that last post - scum are thinking about the game the same as the rest of us (albeit from a different angle) and sometimes you can get a glimpse of the wrong mindset if you read into seemingly innocuous posts

It was beginner’s luck.

Wait actually what? This completely betrays a scum mindset - you wouldnt think of this as beginner's luck if you were town. Beginner's luck is when you do something accidentally that helps you succeed. The way JV describes the response as being like, suave (?), like intentionally tricky I guess, and the for fua to say it is beginners luck is like, betraying that fua benefits from that kind of manipulation. They perceive that kind of response as something that is beneficial.to them that they did accidentally, and attribute it to beginner's luck.

Idk, I also might have missed whatever fua had to say about me but I felt when reading about why they say I'm scum, like this doesnt make sense?

I'll vote RCE for deadline if needed but until then I feel good about VOTE: Fua

I was being sarcastic. Also, you were already voting me.

it doesn't seem like sarcasm to me

Disgusting? How should I have taken it then?

Either you’re:

A. Saying that I didn’t recognize Jackson’s post about me being suave, not posting content, using psychological tactics against him, and him having to be cautious around me as negative in the slightest.

B. Saying that I did recognize it as negative, but openly and unironically agreed with said negative statement without a hint of disbelief.

I don’t know how it could be interpreted otherwise.

[fua]

Like. In the post after he literally said he scumreads me for it. Which is it?

[Save The Dragons]

apologies for being absent just had my covid booster and i'm sick/really tired so i'll try to get to this when i can

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson what's your case on Andres besides the reaction to being scumread?

Overall opportunistic nature from what I am seeing as well as wanting to flat out push the agenda harder once people started backing off of you. Instead of giving even a thought to maybe your slot was town, just straight up pushing an agenda.

[JacksonVirgo]

Here's me submitting a motion eliminate Andres, on the condition that if he flips Town we insta elim both JV & ssbm next. JV is damn too sus (in addition to ssbm) for outing the JK AND still not voting ssbm after that. How say the TOWN??

What goes on in your head to make this a post.

I am scummy because I accidentally outted the JK? Nice

[JacksonVirgo]

If Andres flips green, then JV does look like he has been pushing away from the ssbm wagon.

That's because I have been as I haven't been given a valid reason as to why I shouldn't.

[JacksonVirgo]

If Andres flips green, then JV does look like he has been pushing away from the ssbm wagon.

That's because I have been as I haven't been given a valid reason as to why I shouldn't.

In which I asked and then fua just dipped

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh but it's easier to just not use your brain and actually try and explain the read, nah just wagon and then anybody that goes against it is also scum.

Very smart

[Three]

VOTE: ssbm

If we push this through then Kyouko will have more time to go play more Runescape.

[fua]

Jackson what's your case on Andres besides the reaction to being scumread?

Overall opportunistic nature from what I am seeing as well as wanting to flat out push the agenda harder once people started backing off of you. Instead of giving even a thought to maybe your slot was town, just straight up pushing an agenda.

Why does Kyoko get a pass for this when their case on me was forced and grasping at straws?

Also: Jackson didn’t necessarily out me? It was my choice to claim early.

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson what's your case on Andres besides the reaction to being scumread?

Overall opportunistic nature from what I am seeing as well as wanting to flat out push the agenda harder once people started backing off of you. Instead of giving even a thought to maybe your slot was town, just straight up pushing an agenda.

Why does Kyoko get a pass for this when their case on me was forced and grasping at straws?

Also: Jackson didn’t necessarily out me? It was my choice to claim early.

Where are they grasping at straws.

[JacksonVirgo]

Also: Jackson didn’t necessarily out me? It was my choice to claim early.

This should be obvious, but obviously not according to a50

[fua]

They grasped at straws in the post I’ve quoted multiple times where they didn’t refute any of the points I made against them and instead called me out as scummy for two sarcastic responses posts. They also haven’t tried to solve for anyone else besides Dwlee who is almost certainly town.

[JacksonVirgo]

They grasped at straws in the post I’ve quoted multiple times where they didn’t refute any of the points I made against them and instead called me out as scummy for two sarcastic responses posts. They also haven’t tried to solve for anyone else besides Dwlee who is almost certainly town.

You haven't refuted any of my posts for them not necessarily being scummy, does that make you scum too in your eyes?

Stop using the sarcastic response posts because, as I have said many times, it did not appear to be so. If anything that's a comprehension (if that's a word) issue rather than them blatantly using obviously sarcastic posts.

[JacksonVirgo]

I could not care less if they flip scum and I die next, if that happens fine. But I will not regret my actions here today as nothing that I have seen is necessarily scummy and I am standing by that.

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: Andres prefer this over kyouko. Prs have their own stuff to do and all that.

[Three]

Oh, now I get it. This was all just to split the votes at the last minute. Haha wow, we should've just stuck with the wagon that was actually feasible to push through.

VOTE: RCEnigma

We have twenty hours left.

[AliceK]

apologies for being absent just had my covid booster and i'm sick/really tired so i'll try to get to this when i can

Looks like I missed a lot of content. I will post my reads in next few hours.
I saw fua claimed JK. Slightly panicky claim, ngl.

[Three]

Unofficial vote count. The votes aren't in timeline order.

JacksonVirgo - 0
Almost50 - 0
Aaron - 0
Not_Mafia - 0
Dwlee99 - 0
AliceK - 0
ssbm_Kyouko - 4; Almost50, Dwlee99, fua, UglyDuck
fua - 0
ILUVYTHAN - 0
Ythan - 0
Save The Dragons - 0
RCEnigma - 5; Andresvmb, ILUVYTHAN, Save The Dragons, Three, Ythan
Three - 1; AliceK
UglyDuck - 1; Not_Mafia
Andresvmb - 2; JacksonVirgo; RCEnigma

Not Voting: Aaron, ssbm_Kyouko

[JacksonVirgo]

I will switch to kyouko if that means enigma survives.

I value enigma over kyouko

[Three]

I'm fine with either and lowkey think they're just competing SvS wagons. RC trying to split the votes across three wagons at EoD looks bad, and Kyouko shaded both Mozamis and RCE but never voted either and is currently not voting, even though she said she would vote RCE at EoD if Fua's wagon didn't go through.