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[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: fua

I did have Andres as a tier above fua, but the reaction to kyouko where they needed to just blatantly throw shade at their slot once the heat pushed up against them is a failed vibe check.

I'm vibing here now. Andres a close second.

[fua]

Since we don’t have much time left in the day anyway and there probably won’t be a counterwagon on the scum, I’m the Town Jailkeeper. Sheep me on Kyoko because they’re clearly obvious scumming and should be taken out. Their post is either grasping at straws to try to reinforce my wagon or calling me stupid enough to openly claim scum out in public, which I don’t appreciate.

Mafia will never kill me and I’ll be miselimmed later anyways. Better to force mafia to kill the suspicious slot and remove the utility of their strongman (if Kyoko isn’t their strongman anyways) than lose two townies.

[JacksonVirgo]

Bruh.

VOTE: Andres

[fua]

Anyway, talk about the events of the previous few days and the reads surrounding me now that I’m locktown.

Also, vote Kyoko.

[fua]

Andres can die tomorrow, but respect my wishes here as a dead man walking.

[JacksonVirgo]

Don't expect me to wagon with you just because you claimed PR, I don't think they're scum so I aint voting there.

[fua]

They’re obviously scumming though. No townie would ever use their thought process to catch scum because it’s such an inherently flawed mindset to go about things with.

[JacksonVirgo]

If you're not an option, Andres is the shank I want.

Can you explain why they're obvscum?

[JacksonVirgo]

They’re obviously scumming though. No townie would ever use their thought process to catch scum because it’s such an inherently flawed mindset to go about things with.

Just because it's flawed does not mean it's scummy.

[fua]

Their most recent post against me says ‘I didn’t read why Fua called me scum and I ignored it, but them saying a joke in response to Jackson’s statement means that they’re claiming scum in public’. Unless you think I’m dumb enough to openly admit that I’m scum and have no self control when it comes to my thought process whatsoever than that is the completely wrong approach to reading me. Keep in mind that they’ve been doing nothing but handing out town or scumreads with no basis and putting sus on the easy targets (Me, Dwlee, N_M). If they aren’t scum they’re incredibly anti-town.

[fua]

Also if Kyoko is scum it clears Dwlee, N_M, and potentially RCE whereas Andres is a low-info flip.

[JacksonVirgo]

Their most recent post against me says ‘I didn’t read why Fua called me scum and I ignored it, but them saying a joke in response to Jackson’s statement means that they’re claiming scum in public’.

Quit the shade, it's baseless.

Unless you think I’m dumb enough to openly admit that I’m scum and have no self control when it comes to my thought process whatsoever than that is the completely wrong approach to reading me. Keep in mind that they’ve been doing nothing but handing out town or scumreads with no basis and putting sus on the easy targets (Me, Dwlee, N_M). If they aren’t scum they’re incredibly anti-town.

Scumread me too then because I followed that train of thought as well, up until you claimed PR,, which by all means could still have you scum but that's doubtful. What have they done that's particularly scummy rather than lacklustre as a town?

[JacksonVirgo]

Also if Kyoko is scum it clears Dwlee, N_M, and potentially RCE whereas Andres is a low-info flip.

How does it clear these? I don't think Dwee or RCE is scum anyway, so the flip is useless. I doubt it clears N_M at all.

[fua]

I’m not even shading, I’m just paraphrasing what they said.

And I know you follow that train of thought, because you’re not respecting me as a player or considering my point of view. And I just told you how their mindset and approach to pushing me is scummy and grasping at straws.

Anyway, you’ll see when I die tonight regardless that I’m telling the truth.

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m not even shading, I’m just paraphrasing what they said.

And I know you follow that train of thought, because you’re not respecting me as a player or considering my point of view. And I just told you how their mindset and approach to pushing me is scummy and grasping at straws.

Anyway, you’ll see when I die tonight regardless that I’m telling the truth.

No, you

are

shading them.

And now you're shading me for not respecting you? What bullshittery is this.

You're not even countering my points, you're ignoring them and then throwing shade.

[JacksonVirgo]

1. Just because I do not follow your reads, does not mean I am not considering them.
2. In what way am I not respecting you as a player? Just because I don't want Town to die, you are taking that personally? Sorry bud but that's not how it works.
3. I thought you said scum wouldn't kill you -_-

[fua]

You literally just admitted that you were following the mindset of thinking I’m stupid enough to openly claim scum and have no filter or self control at all, so I should scumread you for the same reason I scumread Kyoko?

And scum wouldn’t kill me

if I didn’t claim

, since prior to this I was such easy miselim bait while Kyoko wasn’t getting any traction whatsoever.

I’m not going to argue with you. Vote Andre if you want, but Kyoko is obvscum.

[fua]

Like. You can see how this is frustrating for me right?

[JacksonVirgo]

You literally just admitted that you were following the mindset of thinking I’m stupid enough to openly claim scum and have no filter or self control at all, so I should scumread you for the same reason I scumread Kyoko?

And scum wouldn’t kill me

if I didn’t claim

, since prior to this I was such easy miselim bait while Kyoko wasn’t getting any traction whatsoever.

I’m not going to argue with you. Vote Andre if you want, but Kyoko is obvscum.

I think you're taking what's being said completely wrong.

I don't think you're stupid enough to open-claim, because you didn't. You had a perspective-slip if anything, which again doesn't confirm you as scum regardless just makes you look scummier. Slips have nothing to do with intelligence hun.

If you scum-read that aspect of them and if I am doing it as well, then obviously scum-read me as well? Isn't that obvious?

What the fuck my dude. I am asking these questions because I want the game solved like everybody else, you're not helping by getting upset and then just blatantly shading and ignoring literally any point that counters your mindset.

[JacksonVirgo]

Like. You can see how this is frustrating for me right?

Sure, but is that why you're just ignoring what doesn't fit your thoughts? That's blind tunnelling

[JacksonVirgo]

Clean slate. I'll ask a few questions and you can answer them to the best of your ability, good with you?

What about Kyouko's alleged general underwhelming content scummy rather than just underwhelming Town (I also am not saying they're underwhelming I am using your case on them).

[fua]

I don’t know. On my end it feels like I’ve been trying to be patient and reasonable but then you change the subject immediately without addressing my points. I think it’d be best if we both took a moment and stepped away to clear our heads and look at the bigger picture/calm down.

[fua]

We’re clearly not going to get through to each other because we have such different opinions on what’s scummy and not scummy. For what it’s worth I don’t even think Andres is a townlean for me, so if absolutely NOBODY wants Kyoko for some reason I’ll sheep that.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don’t know. On my end it feels like I’ve been trying to be patient and reasonable but then you change the subject immediately without addressing my points. I think it’d be best if we both took a moment and stepped away to clear our heads and look at the bigger picture/calm down.

What points do you feel I am ignoring, as I feel I've been responding to yours, apologies if this is the case.

[JacksonVirgo]

And being direct is better than leaving it temporarily and then still not getting it lol