Micro 1032: Baton of Desperation [Game Over]

[Clemency]

Vote who you want dead clem.

oo
i have no idea
uh
i dont have it narrowed down that far yet

[Wisdom]

This is not helpful
The strategy for today is to eliminate someone via vote and then quickpass the baton between everyone else

[DArby]

Vote who you want dead clem.

oo
i have no idea
uh
i dont have it narrowed down that far yet

Do you have any thoughts at all on the game?

[DArby]

So I think my thought was kind of simple, and was based off of Wisdom's #355.

What MY dumb ass didn't realize at the time is that Pooky being your partner also makes sense with your reaction.
Nevertheless, you've gone from giving me 100 to near 0 paranoia, next to Clemency, but even then, he's a gut read.

If this seems stupid, that's because it is.

I follow everything else, but how is Pooky involved given my reaction? I was going to pass the baton to Vulture out of experience. Why, when given the option, would I willingly choose to keep town over my only partner when I said that I didn’t believe scum was between them?

[DArby]

I feel I'm an odd choice for the baton holder. I had a few days to think about this and I still want to give it to Wisdom. I feel he town slipped by risking dying to wait on passing the baton for Margot to post.

It also makes sense as scum imo. The reads on me were/are split, so if he wanted to hand it off to me (the better to get townier players limmed), he'd first want to gauge whether it would look partner-y so he won't go down with me, if that's how things go later on.

Plus it's not like graciously waiting for a slot to be active is a rare camouflage tactic. Easy townpoints, you literally don't have to do anything.

"Town slip" is very generous; I wouldn't assign alignment to it. If there's something else that frames the action as towny, though, feel free to bring it up.

Could you reword your first paragraph. Using only pronouns, I cannot gauge what you’re talking about specifically.

I disagree with your last two paragraphs. Waiting is one thing, sure, but the timer expired. That was a direct gamble to take. There’s only 2 scum, so to take out half your team on towncred is silly.

Okay, I tried rewording it. I don't know how much it matters considering I forgot that he actually

did

let the baton expire and all that, but here it is:

"Taking the risk also makes sense as scum. Town's reads on me were/are split, so if scum!Wisdom were going to pass the baton to me (both to keep me as a future mislim, and to get townier players limmed), he'd first want to gauge whether it would make he and I look partnered.
Regardless of my alignment, if Wisdom's scum, it would be risky to associate himself with me, as that could negatively his towniness in people's eyes.
Scum!Wisdom holding onto the baton instead of passing it to me immediately creates an appearance of "having to seriously consider", thus creating negative association between us, or at least less positive association than handing it to me immediately would."

....though to be honest I might've just explained why Wisdom is town.
Then again, I'm more likely to be limmed before Wisdom, so I could be his token tr.
But then there's the baton expiring thing so probably he's town.

Well, yes, you actually made a really good Wisdom town-case. My opinion still stands from the start of d2. Wisdom is at the top of my town list.

This explanation also puts more suspicion on you. I don’t trust that by you expanding on a thought, that you’re able to change your own opinion. It’s as if you’re forming your opinion after making a case, which is not town indicative.

[DArby]

To clarify: I’m not saying changing your own opinion is not pro-town. Quite the opposite. What I’m saying is that the difference between the posts you provided was mostly expanding on implied nouns. No new information was given outside of you acknowledging the time limit.

What I am sure of now is the scum team is absolutely not Rat and Wisdom.

[Wisdom]

Sigh

HEAL: pooky

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is there any1 who townreads ratmans or has another person they really feel strongly is scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

right now it feels like ratmans is just going to inevitably get elimmed

if that happens and he's town, I'd like for ratmans to give us a team solve that we follow to the letter tomm cuz at least we know it comes from a town source

sort of as a contingency plan

[DArby]

right now it feels like ratmans is just going to inevitably get elimmed

if that happens and he's town, I'd like for ratmans to give us a team solve that we follow to the letter tomm cuz at least we know it comes from a town source

sort of as a contingency plan

Respectfully disagree. He can flip town and still be wrong.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes but it's better to get a hero solve from a confirmed townie than from a pool that's (33% scum)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

besides the eliminated player is going to have the ability to send the baton to whoever they want anyway

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I guess whoever ratmans passes the baton to will be conf town

and then whoever that person passes the baton to will also be conftown

and so on

so i guess we wont even need a hero solve

just be watching the thing go from one person to another haha

[Wisdom]

Agreed with darby

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this game really works in a p weird way

ok any1 here have some real thoughts on whether they want ratmans to be eliminated or who they want to be eliminated

[DArby]

besides the eliminated player is going to have the ability to send the baton to whoever they want anyway

What if scum nk's the baton holder?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the baton holder commutes

[DArby]

Specifically it would stop this “comf town” chain at the head.

[DArby]

the baton holder commutes

Wait what?

[DArby]

Either this is TMI or there’s something missing in the rules.

[Wisdom]

no its known

[Wisdom]

. The last player will be eliminated and has to select player, which will commute during following night and become first Baton Holder during following day.

[DArby]

OH.

[DArby]

Then completely disregard my last few posts.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its not really a conftown chain

its more like a chain of possibly losing immediately if we miss today