Open 86 - Lovers Multiball (Game Over)

[Raging Rabbit]

Can we hear that other case you had on armlx/SP that convinced Darox so well now?

[SleepyPanda]

Because apparently we're not playing Mafia, we're playing TimeStamp.

Oh, who didn't want to post the times? Oh that was Charter? Stop whining about it.

Sometimes I wonder if you are actually being serious.

DarlaBlueEyes hasn't posted in over 48 hours and will be replaced. =/

DBE hasn't posted in 4 days shy of

a month

, not just 48 hours. About time, I say.

Ah! I get it. The time that the QT was started. Well I have 10:07, too.

Thus we should lynch armlx/Panda.

Not charter. At least, there is no reason to lynch charter yet. Note that both armlx and SleepyPanda are voting against charter.

Two more votes on Panda, please.

And why is it of note that we are voting charter? Charter has been scummy for a long time. We were voting charter even before this timestamp business. I don't know where you're going with that.

You still have not given any reason to not vote charter. What did you say to convince Darox? Why won't you tell everyone else? Are you going to continue telling everyone to stop voting charter and at the same time keep stalling on your reasons for doing so?

[charter]

You still have not given any reason to not vote charter.

Scumlogic.

[SleepyPanda]

You still have not given any reason to not vote charter.

Scumlogic.

And this is an attempt at strawmanning.

Someone is scummy. Someone else says don't vote them. So the first person should unvote automatically? Because they were told to? Please. You play a better game by just repeating we're scum constantly.

[charter]

This isn't a guilty until proven innocent game. You don't start out voting everyone and then removing votes one by one until you're down to voting one person. Therefore, you do the opposite, and wait until you're convinced someone is guilty, then vote for that person. I don't know why I'm explaining this, you don't have to give reasons for not voting someone. Obviously the explanation is you don't think they are scum.

[Raging Rabbit]

You do if that person is acting scummy as hell and is everyone's top suspect. Tons of reasons why you're scummy have been provided, DGB has yet to show why she thinks they don't apply.

[SleepyPanda]

Obviously the explanation is you don't think they are scum.

Continue strawmanning.

I think you're scum, and have been saying so for quite some time. Darox recently said DGB has a compelling case that you are not. What are you having trouble understanding? If DGB has a case that proves you are not scum, why should I not be asking to hear what it is?

I don't know why I'm explaining this

zzzz.

[armlx]

This isn't a guilty until proven innocent game.

Actually, it is.

Also, DGB

Timestamps have no correlation with alignment.

[charter]

Also, DGB

Timestamps have no correlation with alignment.

And lynching you will prove or disprove that beyond a doubt. Besides, you're guilty because you haven't proven yourself innocent. See how dumb that is?

[armlx]

And lynching you will prove or disprove that beyond a doubt. Besides, you're guilty because you haven't proven yourself innocent. See how dumb that is?

Its not that dumb. See, you are more guilty, and I've shown logically why.

Do you seriously start each game assuming everyone is innocent?

And again, to the first part, that's just dumb. The default assumption is NEVER that the mod is lying.

[charter]

Well, my reasons for voting you were, and still are, your buddying up and your terrible voting record. I say that makes you scummier than my not wanting to post daytalk, not wanting to massclaim, and giving up on the game for a while.

[Cephrir]

Do you seriously start each game assuming everyone is innocent?

Do you seriously start each game assuming everyone is guilty?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Charter... not so much. Considering that you've done most of what you're accusing armlx of, I'd say you're still scummiest.

[Raging Rabbit]

I'd restate all the reasons why charter is scummy as hell, but I don't think it'd help any. This 6-6 with Crazy leaning towards SP looks like a deadlock to me. Would still really like to hear from DGB about her mysterious case, and hopefully DBE will be replaced before deadline.

[armlx]

Do you seriously start each game assuming everyone is guilty?

I assume anyone can be at the start.

[Crazy]

Screw it.

Unvote, Vote: SleepyPanda

Because I don't want to wait another week until someone's deadline-lynched.

[charter]

Charter... not so much. Considering that you've done most of what you're accusing armlx of, I'd say you're still scummiest.

Where have I buddied up? Where have I been on all the townie lynches?

[armlx]

Where have I buddied up?

Whenever someone even comes close to agreeing with you, you get all excited and post more. Whenever someone attacks you, you OMGUS.

[SleepyPanda]

I'm going to go ahead and say this is quite sad. Please tell me how we're scum with how we've played. Armlx was one of the first, if not the first, to say that Crazy was confirmed town. Last time I checked, scum want people dead, not call people confirmed townies. I've been wanting DBE replaced for a long time. WWB managed to convince the mod to let her stay, and what use was it? We were stuck with a useless player for a month. How does trying to get a person who isn't contributing replaced suppose to benefit scum? With CWR and his not posting daytalk, I was probably one of the most staunch people to oppose lynching him on that alone. Granted it was the right move, I felt it was a bit too premature to lynch only based on that. How does trying to prevent an easy lynch helpful to scum? If you want to say we're their mafia partners, go ahead. But I'm sure the same people who would say this are also voting us based on the timestamps theory, which would imply that we are not mafia, but werewolves. I see no reason for one scum faction to defend another. I've also been oppose to his lynch prior to the timestamp theory being made public, so if we are indeed werewolves, we have no knowledge that they are mafia.

With how lazy most of this town is, I'm sure you'll all have tons of fun trying to find the rest of scum. If we are lynched, I'm still recommending everyone look at charter/Ceph pair. Besides them, the most likely scum pair I believe are WWB/RR or sekinj/neko, and possibly Darox/DGB for how they've played recently.

[SleepyPanda]

Charter... not so much. Considering that you've done most of what you're accusing armlx of, I'd say you're still scummiest.

Where have I buddied up? Where have I been on all the townie lynches?

You haven't been on all townie lynches, but Cephrir has. Where are you going with it? I'm so sick of your ridiculously horrible logic.

[charter]

This will be so much more satisfying once we're down to looking for one last pair.

[Raging Rabbit]

But I'm sure the same people who would say this are also voting us based on the timestamps theory, which would imply that we are not mafia, but werewolves.

That theory clearly implies you're mafia (same timestamp as BM), no idea where you're getting this from.

If we are lynched, I'm still recommending everyone look at charter/Ceph pair. Besides them, the most likely scum pair I believe are WWB/RR or sekinj/neko, and possibly Darox/DGB for how they've played recently.

That's everyone but lurkers ThAd/Darla. Not too keen.

[SleepyPanda]

But I'm sure the same people who would say this are also voting us based on the timestamps theory, which would imply that we are not mafia, but werewolves.

That theory clearly implies you're mafia (same timestamp as BM), no idea where you're getting this from.

And where do you get this from? We have different times than BM. Show me otherwise.

If we are lynched, I'm still recommending everyone look at charter/Ceph pair. Besides them, the most likely scum pair I believe are WWB/RR or sekinj/neko, and possibly Darox/DGB for how they've played recently.

That's everyone but lurkers ThAd/Darla. Not too keen.

I worded that wrong. I'm saying those pairs deserve more attention. Besides me, I see no one else pressuring you or WWB, practically this entire game.

[Raging Rabbit]

You're right, confused you with Sej/neko. Apologies.

We've had our share of (poorly based) attacks, both from Adel/DGB and charter. Do you think not being attacked 'enough' is in any way a scumtell?

[charter]

RR, the thinking is SP and armlx have the same times as fire/ice.