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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:27 am

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The idea doesn't just get dropped on Day 3 with 4 town down and no scum dead. It is standard protocol to vote on the first person to claim.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:33 am

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reborn wrote:We've already lost 3 town.
I can't help but thinking that this could be a possible slip. Far fetched I know but I even mentioned earlier the people we'd lost.

So, reborn, you want someone to claim and then vote for that person?
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:46 am

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reborn537 wrote:The idea doesn't just get dropped on Day 3 with 4 town down and no scum dead. It is standard protocol to vote on the first person to claim.
So you want me to claim first and then you'll be justified for voting me?
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:08 am

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I'm trying to do a PBPA on reborn, but I come across a bit of a problem.
He's made no posts of substance at all this entire game
along with being absent for long periods of time (lurking null tell, but it's still a strike against his current standing).

Explain yourself, link us to where you have done any good scumhunting. We're on the third day of play and for someone to have that much trouble coming up with scum suspects,
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:14 am

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Pesco47 wrote:
reborn537 wrote:The idea doesn't just get dropped on Day 3 with 4 town down and no scum dead. It is standard protocol to vote on the first person to claim.
So you want me to claim first and then you'll be justified for voting me?
Sigh, you're an idiot.

To vote ON the person first person to claim. I.e. we all sit around and say "I think XXXXX should go first". Then we count up the number of votes each person has and the one with the most claims first. Then it is popcorn.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:15 am

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Tuberkulos wrote:
reborn wrote:We've already lost 3 town.
I can't help but thinking that this could be a possible slip. Far fetched I know but I even mentioned earlier the people we'd lost.

So, reborn, you want someone to claim and then vote for that person?
I forgot about the animal handler.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:16 am

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Although, Tim could choose the first person to claim given that he has already claimed.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:20 am

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Show us some proper scumhunting rather than asking for a massclaim.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:24 am

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Pesco, how many times. My top two suspects have shown a vulnerability in their lack of knowledge of pro-town role styles. It's Day 3, we have lost 4 town and no scum. It's mass-claim time.

Considering you're one of my top two suspects, I'm not surprised that you're fighting against the mass-claim idea.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:26 am

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So am I on your list? I'm also fighting it.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:27 am

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Nope, you're not on my list of top two suspects. You're just wrong.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:33 am

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reborn537 wrote:Nope, you're not on my list of top two suspects. You're just wrong.
I doubt that, in fact, this whole ordeal seems to be rather pointless and overall, I don't see this helping the town since scum have some rather safe claims for jobs. More so, it only tells scum who to kill next.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:34 am

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Let's see what the others think.
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:39 am

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In fact, after a count up, assuming a nk and 3 scum this is LYLO, so anyone not advocating a mass claim (perhaps preceded by a name-claim) gets a big fat
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:44 am

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I'll claim. I can't see any harm in it except that maybe scum's targets will change at night, but we are down so much that I think it will do more good than harm...
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:45 am

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Reborn, how exactly are we going to tell friend from foe by a mass-roleclaim?
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:08 am

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How exactly do we lose anything from it? LYLO means we try EVERYTHING. At the very least we will gain info from power role actions/investigations.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:10 am

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sekinj wrote:I'll claim. I can't see any harm in it except that maybe scum's targets will change at night, but we are down so much that I think it will do more good than harm...
It's very rare that sekinj and I agree on something, but here she is absolutely right.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:35 am

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If we're at LyLo, the mod would have told us.

Massclaim or not, do we even know what each role name does? If someone comes up with a roel you've never heard of and makes up some half-assed ability, who's to know if it's real?

Reborn still avoids my question of when was the first time he posted ANY REAL SCUMHUNTING. Don't give us quotes, I asked for links.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:45 am

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The mod never informs the town of LyLo in theme games, nub.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:52 am

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Timeater wrote:The mod never informs the town of LyLo in theme games, nub.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:54 am

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Pesco47 wrote:If we're at LyLo, the mod would have told us.

Massclaim or not, do we even know what each role name does? If someone comes up with a roel you've never heard of and makes up some half-assed ability, who's to know if it's real?

Reborn still avoids my question of when was the first time he posted ANY REAL SCUMHUNTING. Don't give us quotes, I asked for links.
I started a new job a month ago. I am either out or sleeping 21 hours a day. The three hours I do have do not all get devoted to mafia. I tend to read, and make a few short posts when I see glaring errors. I don't care if you asked for links. You may wish to lynch me based on the fact that I've not done any "REAL SCUMHUNTING" but the fact is you are just trying to deflect attention away from the mass claim, because you are scum and know it will catch you out.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:04 am

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I'm good with a mass-claim.
Popcorn it, Tim should pick first.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:39 am

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KoC wrote:Anderson - pretty much all of your so-called "evidence" against me is a huge pile of jumping to conclusions based on assuming I'm scum, then working backwards from that. If I assumed you were scum, I could go back and make all of your posts look scummy as well.
Okay, so you responded to 2 of my points, and left the other 4 or so behind. Could you say what's wrong about those, if you're so sure that my evidence is wrong?
KoC wrote: Calling me out for saying "CoCam must be scum as kobold?" Well, that makes quite a few others scum as well then.
I don't find you scummy for explicitly saying that "CoCam must be scum as kobold", but you deliberately said that you wanted to stop discussion and end the day right there.
KoC wrote:I never had any interest in Roffman? Wow, you mist be an Insane Min Reader, then. Not writing about something =/= not thinking about it. As I stated, and you conveniently ignored, I found the fact that Roffman attacked Timeater, after previously stating he would have been happy to be lynched to prove Tim's innocence/lack thereof, to be a massive u-turn and quite scummy.
Where did you post that? I can't seem to find it. Don't say that you were thinking about it, because you're right, I'm not a mind reader.
KoC wrote:I was waiting for Roffman to give a full description of what his role entailed before asking for someone else to hammer or not, so Anderson and Timeater saying I deliberately hammered him myself is a pile of crap. If I didn't know that they would jump on it and call it OMGUS (despite Timeater being more guilty of it, and Anderson jumping onto the wagon straight away after Tim), I would call them out as a scum pair.
Where did I say that you deliberately hammered Roffman? Jumping to conclusions pretty quickly, eh?
Anyways, I'm now about 80-90 percent sure that you're scum.


I'm also fairly sure that Pesco is also scum, based on his/her connections to KoC and how they have been generally defending each other. If you want, I'll give you a PBPA on that, too.

I don't think massclaim is a good idea right now, we should be lynching KoC/Pesco first, and also the mod probably gave the scum safeclaims anyways. I'm not an expert on them, though, so I'll go try reading up on massclaims in the MD forum.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:40 am

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Sigh. It's LYLO. We do a massclaim.
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