Open 828 | The Brethren Coalition | Game Over!

[Pavowski]

If I drop Hakai, who takes the slot? Math sounds towny but if that post I pointed out is scum equity for Hakai, it's not good for Math either.

[MathBlade]

Also for the record (since there's talk in adding more votes to the Coalition I'm currently voting), I'm rethinking both Farren and Save The Dragon's positions in it. Maybe Save The Dragon's moreso. But I'm not sure if I even have anyone to replace them with. MathBlade is a potential candidate (pending on his thoughts once he actually reads the game or at least some parts of it), but the other three... Still thinking Hakai is Scummy, and both Kyouko and Enchant are also acting Scummy, and while I have some weird gut thoughts they might be Townie (mostly because the things they're doing feel nonsensical for Scum), they're definitely not trying to actually act like it, which uh. Complicates things a bit.

Regarding setup thoughts and the history I am genuinely surprised by that. Whenever I play games that rely on a huge townblock as any alignment it’s usually ended up in a deep wolf. So yay? I usually don’t play opens though so have little experience with this setup.

[Pavowski]

I also gave Hakai credit for TRing Cyrus but maybe I gave him too much. His Cyrus reads could be tmi.

[MathBlade]

Vote Count 1.08

Enchant (2):

MathBlade, cyrus62

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Save The Dragons

Nathann (1):

ssbm_Kyouko

Enchant (1):

Hakai

Not Voting (4):

Enchant, Nathann, Pavowski, Farren

Coalition Count 1.08

Save The Dragons (5):

Save The Dragons, cyrus62, Pavowski, Nathann, Farren

Nathann (5):

cyrus62, Pavowski, Save The Dragons, Farren, Nathann

Hakai (4):

cyrus62, Pavowski, Hakai, Save The Dragons

Pavowski (5):

Save The Dragons, Hakai, Pavowski, cyrus62, Nathann

cyrus62 (4):

Nathann, Hakai, Save The Dragons, cyrus62

Enchant (2):

cyrus62, Pavowski

ssbm_Kyouko (5):

ssbm_Kyouko, Farren, cyrus62, Pavowski, MathBlade

Farren (5):

cyrus62, ssbm_Kyouko, Pavowski, Save The Dragons, Hakai

MathBlade (5):

MathBlade, Save The Dragons, Pavowski, cyrus62, Farren

Spoiler: # of Coalition Votes for Each Player

cyrus62 - (9)

Pavowski - (8)

Save The Dragons - (7)

Nathann - (4)

Farren - (4)

Hakai - (4)

MathBlade - (2)

ssbm_Kyouko - (2)

Enchant - (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-09 19:48:54)
Reminder that the countdown has resumed for those who might've missed it.

HURT: All prior coalition votes
HEAL: Pav
HEAL: StD
HEAL: cyrus (even though I think he is scum)
HEAL: Farren
HEAL: Nathann

[Pavowski]

Math I know you're still catching up but when you can, I want to hear your thoughts on nathann and Hakai.

[Pavowski]

Vote Count 1.08

Enchant (2):

MathBlade, cyrus62

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Save The Dragons

Nathann (1):

ssbm_Kyouko

Enchant (1):

Hakai

Not Voting (4):

Enchant, Nathann, Pavowski, Farren

Coalition Count 1.08

Save The Dragons (5):

Save The Dragons, cyrus62, Pavowski, Nathann, Farren

Nathann (5):

cyrus62, Pavowski, Save The Dragons, Farren, Nathann

Hakai (4):

cyrus62, Pavowski, Hakai, Save The Dragons

Pavowski (5):

Save The Dragons, Hakai, Pavowski, cyrus62, Nathann

cyrus62 (4):

Nathann, Hakai, Save The Dragons, cyrus62

Enchant (2):

cyrus62, Pavowski

ssbm_Kyouko (5):

ssbm_Kyouko, Farren, cyrus62, Pavowski, MathBlade

Farren (5):

cyrus62, ssbm_Kyouko, Pavowski, Save The Dragons, Hakai

MathBlade (5):

MathBlade, Save The Dragons, Pavowski, cyrus62, Farren

Spoiler: # of Coalition Votes for Each Player

cyrus62 - (9)

Pavowski - (8)

Save The Dragons - (7)

Nathann - (4)

Farren - (4)

Hakai - (4)

MathBlade - (2)

ssbm_Kyouko - (2)

Enchant - (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-09 19:48:54)
Reminder that the countdown has resumed for those who might've missed it.

HURT: All prior coalition votes
HEAL: Pav
HEAL: StD
HEAL: cyrus (even though I think he is scum)
HEAL: Farren
HEAL: Nathann

Oh interesting on Cyrus.

[MathBlade]

Math I know you're still catching up but when you can, I want to hear your thoughts on nathann and Hakai.

Nathann is probably town. I liked the pushback on some of my thoughts. Very much evidence based rather than “but I wanna do my own silly thing based”.

No opinion on Hakai yet but I find it interesting that I am somehow linked to that slot.

[Pavowski]

The link there is v tentative, I'm just exploring scum!Hakai

[MathBlade]

@nathann unvote your self to show me I can work with you

This is disgusting.

[MathBlade]

I do not trust enchant or feral. I can't shake a nagging feeling that std isn't town.

Interesting…you somehow get from here to me and Kyo not in a coalition.

This means you likely have your buddy in there as well which explains the drastic Unvote when I explained the coalition idea. So I am guessing we have a very likely all town off coalition at this point.

[MathBlade]

Theres not enough information to get a read on me

Need more from STD. Cyrus +STD top theory atm

[MathBlade]

Oh my god am I real being town read with in 5 pages I think I'm going die from shock. @hakai how do you know my scum range ? How do you know my town range? How can you be so sure I am town. I could just be scum . Willing to work with town to look like I'm town. That said of is my 1st town read.

Yet no Hakai vote in coalition despite being first town read? Explain.

[MathBlade]

Catching up on the day. Long one at work.

And I'm not sure about Nathann yet.

Is this a "I don't have an opinion yet" or "I have a negative opinion"? If it's the latter, I'm interested in hearing about it.

No real opinion yet.

i think reading me is like a fine wine it gets better with age

HEAL: cyrus

Ugh does this mean I have to townread STD now too? Up is down

I lock in my 5.

Locking in at this point is a mistake, but probably a town one

HEAL: cyrus
HEAL: Pavowski
HEAL: Hakai
HEAL: STD

This is at least 3/5s of a good list

Truth is I didn't want to be in any ones 5. Since if the 5 fail we will be looking at them more closely.

The hell is this.

I have to remind myself that trying to make sense of Cyrus is an exercise in frustration and hair loss

Pav and I are mind melding so prob town left off here

[cyrus62]

math and pav are scum or math thats all i can say if math is playing this way yessir replaced out due to not being able to read or paint me as scum.

[cyrus62]

pav sudden like of math trying to get town read.

[cyrus62]

makes me distrust him. im disgusting . i had askd pav to do the same and also hurt my self.

[cyrus62]

Oh my god am I real being town read with in 5 pages I think I'm going die from shock. @hakai how do you know my scum range ? How do you know my town range? How can you be so sure I am town. I could just be scum . Willing to work with town to look like I'm town. That said of is my 1st town read.

Yet no Hakai vote in coalition despite being first town read? Explain.

see the fakeness . if he was looking at the vote count he would see haki is in my 5.

[cyrus62]

I do not trust enchant or feral. I can't shake a nagging feeling that std isn't town.

Interesting…you somehow get from here to me and Kyo not in a coalition.

This means you likely have your buddy in there as well which explains the drastic Unvote when I explained the coalition idea. So I am guessing we have a very likely all town off coalition at this point.

i just need 5 town to win not 7 . if i distrust two that means they are in my lower scum read . you and ssbm are in my higer scum read. but pav is climbing.

[Save The Dragons]

i think i'm still at the same place got 4 i like still looking for a 5th.

HEAL: Farren

What convinced you to add Farren as your 5th?

Let's see how this feels.

HURT: All
HEAL: cyrus62
HEAL: ssbm_Kyouko
HEAL: Pavowski
HEAL: Save The Dragons
HEAL: Hakai

This does not reflect my current reads (obviously; I'm not in it). This is more of a "what happens when I push this button?" deal.

this was too wacko to be scum

I know I'm Town. I think Kyouko's Town. I think Nathann's Town. If all three of us are out, I think the Coalition fails.

this seemed genuine

[Save The Dragons]

i don't mind not being on the coalition but i know i'm town and i'm pretty fuckin' stubborn so i'm not voting for a coalition that doesn't have me on it

[Hakai]

Hey working right now will read later.

Can someone say who they absolutely want in the coalition please? Only one name allowed no naming yourself.

STD

[Hakai]

who i dont want in is ssbm and yessir no replace will convice me a man convice agesnt his will . will death tunnel.

Interesting. I am curious as to why.
This also doesn’t answer who you do want in your coalition.

Would you accept any coalition that did not have me and Kyo?

This is an odd way of dodging my question. There’s a reason I am asking it like this.

I don't like this post.

I am kinda thinking Cyrus might be scum here.

I don’t see a reason for objection here unless I am missing something?

Stuff I said earlier.

HURT: ssbm_Kyouku
HEAL: Mathblade

I understand where people are coming from with the MathBlade reads but I hold him to a higher standard when reading him because he is very good at playing scum.

[MathBlade]

You're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in then you're out
You're up then you're down

You're wrong when it's right
It's black and it's white
We fight, we break up
We kiss, we make up

Still thinking Cyrus + STD

[MathBlade]

Hesitant to add either of cyrus or pavowski because of their popularity so far. Heals seem to be given to them easily, probably because they've talked a lot is the feeling I've gotten. Hakai, what are you feeling from Cyrus that feels out of his scumrange?

Kyo where are your wordy word words?

[cyrus62]

You're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in then you're out
You're up then you're down

You're wrong when it's right
It's black and it's white
We fight, we break up
We kiss, we make up

Still thinking Cyrus + STD

yes cuse we both scum read you whats that called omg i cant belive they think im scum they must be scum.