Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[Bell]

You see real cheeks just borderline made an irony post, but somehow managed to skim by into genuine.
Why couldn’t you do that Dwee?

[Dwlee99]

t3 is like my brother, so sad he's gone

Why would you say this

We're homies. That wasn't sarcasm

[Toogeloo]

I mean... I do agree 1 day lim, 1 night kill, the game is going to end up being fairly long at this rate. There's only 4 eight man raids in FFXIV 2.0.

Garuda
Ifrit
Titan
Ultima Weapon

If we start seeing other raids, Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva, Gilgamesh, Chimera, Hydra, Steps of Faith... Then we exit 2.0 content.

[Mandelbrot]

Excuse me?

When's is townier than us?

I. Think. Not.

Unless you think Cakez was heavily bussing Wheme in the back half of Day 1. You're still on my list of town reads. Don't have a cow.

I'm just fucking around.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I kinda thought cakes was bussing Elsa tbh.

Nah fam.

- House

[Qrow and Raven]

Joking doesn't mitigate potential hurt.

@Toog

I don't feel like the events that transpired entirely line up with that idea. It felt like the existing raid comp was the status quo scum wanted to maintain. TC can be scum within that concept but I think scum likely are in the earlier names on it as well.

-Qrow

Don't worry. I'll treat you just like a stranger from now on.


- House

idk if that's called for necessarily
I was a bit on edge because of what happened earlier.

So here is the list of 8 people (other than myself) I want on this raid, in descending order.

Romance
Sakura Hana
mastina
Elsa Jay
Qrow and Raven
dwlee
Whemestar
Mandelbrot

This list is a combination of my strongest town reads and those who are almost entirely unlikely to be scum based off of Cakez play.

mehhhh this list is like, mostly good, so although I think it can be improved I'll let it rest

-Qrow

[Mandelbrot]

idk if that's called for necessarily
I was a bit on edge because of what happened earlier.

May I ask, or is that too personal?

I wasn't out to legit insult you. I was just poking you for belaboring the Radio Buzz crap as long as you have been doing. Sorry.

- House

[Sakura Hana]

Don't forget that i tried to heal mirio n1 but he still died.
I healed Romance last night, but Romance seemed to be RB'd and H1/H2 died from a janitored kill.

Clearly all of these are the actions of a single team and not two.

[Elsa Jay]

So scum got a flipped JOAT with a VT checker (who did cake say he checked again?) And PT shut down. We also know we got a roleblocker considering no townie would RB Romance. And now a janitor.

Strongman is likely as well unless the roleblocker also blocked Sakura n1. That's a stacked scum team.

[Sakura Hana]

Here's one thing i remember about multiballs is that one team cannot be sure of what the other team is going to do.
The fact that the night actions we know so far line up with the night kills alongside the fact that there's 1 death per night seems to imply they are coming from the same team.

Also adding a janitor to a multiball would be the ultimate troll move from a game design standpoint since it also hides the dead player's alignment.
There was a lot of BS coming out of H1/H2 that indicated that apparently TC and tictac were mech town.
Then they proceed to get janitor so the we cant ever verify whether what they were saying is BS or not?

I mean it's not as bad as katsuki claiming masons with scum and then getting janitored, but why else would they be janitored in the first place.

[Sakura Hana]

Strongman is likely as well unless the roleblocker also blocked Sakura n1. That's a stacked scum team.

I kind of disagree that strongman exists simply by the fact that there was a raid giving uninterruptible, and also today's raid... like, what's the point of today's raid if scum can simply strongman anyway?

[Elsa Jay]

So you think scum Roleblocked you night one then?

[Toogeloo]

I mean... I do agree 1 day lim, 1 night kill, the game is going to end up being fairly long at this rate. There's only 4 eight man raids in FFXIV 2.0.

Garuda
Ifrit
Titan
Ultima Weapon

If we start seeing other raids, Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva, Gilgamesh, Chimera, Hydra, Steps of Faith... Then we exit 2.0 content.

I need to amend this. Garuda, Titan, Ifrit, and Ultima Weapon are all 8 man

trials

in 2.0, there is actually 5 more 8 man

raids

in 2.0 in the form of The Binding Coil of Bahamut (labeled Turn 1 through Turn 5), so I guess technically there are 9 total eight man content in 2.0.

[Sakura Hana]

So you think scum Roleblocked you night one then?

Could've been town too, i wasnt really unversally townread at N1, but it is also possible they RB'd me without knowing whether i was a PR or not and just killed Mirio.

[Sakura Hana]

Let me put it this way.
I dont think there was any way scum could've predicted that I was exactly a doctor that would exactly protect Mirio so anything that happened that night could've been a coincidence.

There is a slim chance that scum thought (even tho it wasnt my intention) that the way i was defending Mirio D1 was to set him up as a NK so i could heal correctly. But i think the chance of this is very slim.

[RealCheeks]

TC and tictac are both ~almost~ mech conftown FMPOV.

I don't believe either doc claim is scum, but one of them may not be telling us all about their role.
-T3

I think these posts are significant, and janitor likely cleaned the role to prevent these reads being confirmed town.

[RealCheeks]

~C

[RealCheeks]

If there's only one team then Sakura proposes that scum killed one of their own and removed PM for wifom? I think I got lost somewhere...
~C

[RealCheeks]

So two things - either scum wanted T3s reads lost in the abyss of the game to prevent clears OR they weren't clears and scum killed T3 and wiped role to prevent us figuring out they aren't hard clears...
Hmmmmmmmm.
~C

[RealCheeks]

In conclusion TC and Tictac may or may not be scum.
You're welcome.
~C

[Sakura Hana]

If there's only one team then Sakura proposes that scum killed one of their own and removed PM for wifom? I think I got lost somewhere...
~C

Nah, that's not what i'm saying.

[Toogeloo]

There's too much confusion in regards to TC though. Let's not forget this...

tictac is mechanically town; just trust me on this one. I'll elaborate on day 4 so hold me to this.

...and yet, TC claimed to be a Doc of sorts, so how does TC know that Tictac is mechanically town, and yet have a Doc Role? If TC can at least give us a Flavor Name to work with, I might understand, since as of right now, my assumption going into Night 2 was that TC, H1/H2, and TicTac were the three Eorzean leaders, and afaik, none of them denied it yesterday after I brought it up. If they are, then H1/H2's flavor role will at least be easy to figure out, but if not, then there needs to be an explanation on how the three are tied together with TC hard claiming only Tictac to be town (no mention of H1/H2), yet H1/H2 only believing it to be and including themselves in the bundle, and (afaik) Tictac having no opinion on the matter.

If we can solve the conundrum, and determine TC (and Tictac by virtue of TC's Day 1 claim) then I believe I might be swayed on to either Bell or RealCheeks as the most probably options for scum to fail the raid yesterday. I think it would need to be ironclad though, as of right now I can't see how TC can sow so much confusion with the various claims and still be town in light of an existing Doc in Sakura. So, again, at the very least, I would like a Flavor Name from TC.

[RealCheeks]

Agree with flavour claim or death.
~C

[Mandelbrot]

Honestly, I don't trust anything that says it's designed to USE OGI to actively affect the game itself.

Sounds very... disallowed to be a thing.

- House

[RealCheeks]

Dwlee99
RealCheeks
Bell
Elsa Jay
SirCakez
Sakura Hana
Romance
tictac
Tomorrow Corporation

The only clears I'm sure of are Romance and Sakura at this stage. TC and Tictac maybe.

Not sure how Bell, Elsa, Dwlee are getting written off unless I've missed more than I thought.
~C