White flag #824 game over

[cyrus62]

vote count 1.11

Dwlee99

(4): MURDERCAT,, Infinity 324, goats,gamma Emerald

Flea The magician

(2):GuiltyLion,Northsidegal

Not_Mafia

(2):Not_Mafia, implosion,

MURDERCAT

(1): Klick

northsidegal

(1):Dwlee99

no1

(1)PookyTheMagicalBear

Not Voting

(1]: Datisi,

with 13 alive it takes 7 votes to be kicked off the island

day1 ends in (expired on 2021-08-21 16:19:39)

vote count to be made better and fixed when I return home signd Cyrus m.l hart.

[goats]

[goats]

oooh a nice fat dwlee wagon

[Flea The Magician]

I'm really torn on Dwlee. I struggle to read them, so I did the townlock thingie gamma suggested and there's been a lot of "don't push... don't dew it... just no." moments and I'm actually thinking Dwlee has been pretty town here.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm really torn on Dwlee. I struggle to read them, so I did the townlock thingie gamma suggested and there's been a lot of "don't push... don't dew it... just no." moments and I'm actually thinking Dwlee has been pretty town here.

I feel like when you have a lot of moments like that the person is just scum
That tends to be the best way to read Noraa!scum I’d say

[Dwlee99]

What are don't push it don't dew it moments?

[Dwlee99]

Gamma do you believe in meta

[Dwlee99]

In advance so you don't have to wait for when you respond: I don't believe in meta BUT if you do then I think my play here is similar to Chrono trigger including getting wagoned for dumb reasons. And my goats read is in part motivated by my experience with Guillotina who seemed very assertive in a way you don't expect scum to be but was scum and pushing me in a similar way the more aggressive goats head has been.

[Flea The Magician]

What are don't push it don't dew it moments?

my resisting prodding you for something

[implosion]

also, as much as it pains to say, i'm still feeling n_m is town. this level of effort feels like he gives half a shit about this game. comparing it to my last two game played with him, and some other game i was skimming where bingle said that efforting!n_m is town!n_m, this is fine.

This is decisively not efforting N_M compared to the other recent games I've played with him. Look closely at his ISO. He has 24 posts in 24 hours... and then 10 posts in the almost a week since then.

How the heck is that efforting. It's showing up at the beginning and then not efforting at all after that. And the content of his posts doesn't exactly look like effort to me. Like really Datisi please justify this I have no idea what you're saying.

[Datisi]

my baseline for scum!n_m is jk9++, where he was pretty much posting once every prod. if you want to present me with links to the games you've played with him, can look.

[implosion]

i still just do not see dwlee-scum here. Would much rather lim N_M or MC or Flea (note that contrary to popular Flea-opinion I don't really actually have a read on Flea, i was sort of ambiguous about it i guess)

[implosion]

Just look at post timestamps ignoring content. Note he died N1.

In this game, if we count the number of his posts with each possible day as a timestamp (i.e. how many times did he post on the 11th, then 12th, etc), we get:

15
10 (but again, note that 23/25 of these two days' posts were within a span of 24 hours)
1
3
0
0
4
1 (current day, could be more)

In jk9++, scum game, if we do the same:

1
0
2
0
1
1
0
3
1
0
3
0
1
0
1
4

If we do the same with the town game I linked above:

3
1
8
1
11
14 (again note that most of these two spates of posting took place in a span of 24 hours, though that weakens my point in principle)
2
3

And then d1 ended.

So idk. His first 24 hours of this game were, yes, high-effort by his standards. But his game since then looks distinctly more like the scum game. It's definitely not clearly high-effort N_M.

[implosion]

if N_M is scum then call this the implotell

[implosion]

and make a machine learning algorithm that converts these strings of numbers into alignments

[northsidegal]

NSG incorporated makes moves to copyright a tell and look at how many imitators prop up, truly i am a trendsetter

[Datisi]

i feel like there might be scum in dwlee/flea because of what i call the iconeum tell (no meme, i actually call it that), but implo's numbers look really pretty

who should i vote for

[Dwlee99]

What is the iconeum tell? Is it that we are both sort of unsure of the other's wagon?

[Dwlee99]

I'm willing to go NSG (this one probably won't happen today whatever), goats (also probably won't :I), NM, or just maybe Flea if it comes down to it.

[Datisi]

yeah, two leading wagons at pressure refusing to vote one another

i was thinking how dwlee is town because they're not voting flea (and said they don't want to) when fae seems like the most likely counterwagon, then i wanted to vote flea, then i was like, wait if flea doesn't wanna vote dwlee who is faer most likely counterwagon, shouldn't i by the same logic be townreading fae but *then* i was like hang on a second, what would the dragon do here

[Datisi]

implo is using like, sample size 2 i feel like i really shouldn't be putting too much stock into that but his numbers are so pretty

[northsidegal]

is it worse than your meta sample size for NM, though?

[Dwlee99]

In my experience those sorts of wagons tend to be T/T cause survivalism is more likely to dictate that it's easy to just say you'd be okay with the other wagon. Although I've definitely tried to do something similar as scum before resisting hopping onto a counterwagon on myself

[northsidegal]

it's possible white flag changes that consideration, though.

now i'm somewhat nostalgic for team mafia 2018 white flag, that was a good game.

[Dwlee99]

Last time this happened to me though as town the counterwagon was scum so maybe. I'll look through other games to see if this pattern holds up.

How do you think white flag changes the wagon stuff? @north