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Post Post #4988 (isolation #600) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:35 pm

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In post 4977, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 4974, Chara wrote:i do wish i was as certain as you were but i'm not and i won't be until the game is over.
I am. Flea 100% wrote that.
How fuckin dare you.

I capitalise possessive I.
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Post Post #4989 (isolation #601) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:37 pm

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Totally ignoring that Clidd is pissing his pants and ignoring me too, knowing full well I will break him.
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Post Post #4990 (isolation #602) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:52 pm

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In post 4959, Chara wrote:i think Ydrasse could have wrote it, especially if she was trying to pretend she didn't. clidd could also have, though i find him less likely than Ydrasse. and i expected timezones to clear clidd 100% but i don't know if it actually does given the times clidd has posted this game, but don't quote me on that because i may have done the math wrong when i say clidd has posted the same time as Yin's usual posting time, and the outlier posting times also seem doable enough. the one that sticks out is one time where Yin posted at what would be 2am for clidd. but i do agree that Flea makes the most sense.

i can agree that Yin's posting doesn't look like the other examples of writing Flea's provided. problem being: Flea's arguing Yin's writing doesn't look like faer writing, as though scum writing Yin decides to write in their own writing style. wifom sure but Flea's attempts at showing how fae definitely would not write like this, specifically calling attention to the americanized spellings (color, demeanor) feels like fae did that to be able to point to later to show all these ways that it definitely was not faer.
or more likely wanted it to be noticed rather than point out faerself but the only thing that was noticed initially was the "artefact" thing, which makes me think that was unintentional.
Clidd is like +1 or same timezone as me...

We really are going to grab every straw here lol.

Americanised spellings being used for the bull of the post immediately negates the singular use of "Artefact".
I'd also be way more passionate writing about the moon.
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Post Post #4991 (isolation #603) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:57 pm

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In post 4969, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 4966, Chara wrote:
In post 4960, Amy Dunne wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 2887, Hectic wrote:
Votecount 4.0


[9] Not Voting:
Amy Dunne, Ydrasse, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, Ircher, clidd, Morning Tweet, Tanner, Chara

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to sentence. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-25 12:06:58).


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In post 2888, Tanner wrote:can we just VOTE: ircher?

ydra, please convince me that you don't do as scum there. like i was gonna locktown you for it once nakata flipped but uhhhhh
In post 2890, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Ircher
In post 2891, Yin wrote:
The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.

They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-

Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her
EVEN HER.


His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.

If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.

His fingers snap.

DETONATE.

In post 2892, pj harvey dent wrote:
Yin calmly walks over to Ircher, smiles reassuredly at him, and then pushes the red button strapped to his chest.


BOOM


Ircher was a...


Spoiler:
Vanilla Townie
In post 2893, pj harvey dent wrote:
Votecount 4.1


[8] Not Voting:
Amy Dunne, Ydrasse, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, clidd, Morning Tweet, Tanner, Chara

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to sentence. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-07-25 12:06:58).


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In post 2894, Tanner wrote:i just noticed that yin's eye is now red. that's a nice touch.

6 townies alive. not counting amy because we cannot vote her. so practically 5 townies alive. we need to pick 4. ugh.

VOTE: tanner

i'm inclined to think tweetie's breakdowns on d3 about robert were genuine. anyone who played with scum!tweetie know if she likes doing AtE like that as scum?

and my read on pooky is now meaningless because "he doesn't let infinity die like that" doesn't age well.
In post 2895, clidd wrote:{Morning|Ydrasse|Tanner|me}> Pool


Who makes the most sense as Ircher detonater here? Flea who voted Ircher or Clidd?

A great way to defect by voting Ircher then 28 minutes later, blowing him up?
it might be a good way to deflect, it is a little risky to wait even that long at 5 votes to elim, but i guess that's also why.
It’s possible but Flea wrote Yin flavour and fae is trying to convince us that watching Sherlock Holmes somehow causes you to write “artifacts” like “artefacts” and the eating thing fae posted. Well I literally had scum make a comparible argument in another game I was in. :lol:

Like it’s obvious scum was monitoring Ircher wagon or it would have succeeded.
You know Cummerbund Bandersnatch does more than Sherlock Holmes, right? He's a stage actor as well...
Honestly for me - and I mean no disrespect - the mixing of the Americanised and Natural English spellings, as well as some of the jankiness points to ESOL.
If you're pulling out these BS level tells, look at the composition. It's someone who is well read but not a native speaker.
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Post Post #4992 (isolation #604) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:59 pm

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Updating the list...

I'm scum because Yin...
  • Used the English spelling of "artefacts"
    but used the US version of "color"...

  • Has a "poetic and similar" writing style
    but has so many contradictions and jank compared to my writing style and comparing pieces I just randomly made with no thought...

  • Detonated Ircher 22-28 minutes after I last posted in thread and 4.5 hours before I reappeared...
    Despite the fact I eat at that time and had a RL event happen that I'm not willing to go in to

  • This bullshit not-even-a-tell...
    In post 4958, Amy Dunne wrote:
    In post 2890, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Ircher
    In post 2891, Yin wrote:
    The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.

    They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-

    Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her
    EVEN HER.


    His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.

    If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.

    His fingers snap.

    DETONATE.

    14 minutes after Ircher self-voted detonate happened. No way are we yeeting Flea ever in this game.
  • The simplest solution points to it being me when it is vastly more complex.
  • FUCKING TIMEZONES.
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Post Post #4993 (isolation #605) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:01 pm

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Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her EVEN HER.
I keep reading this is it's making me nauseous...
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Post Post #4994 (isolation #606) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:07 pm

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In post 4993, Flea The Magician wrote:
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her EVEN HER.
I keep reading this is it's making me nauseous...
Made me that nauseous I couldn't even English myself apparently xD
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Post Post #4995 (isolation #607) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:29 pm

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EBWOP, forgot the song thing too lol
In post 4992, Flea The Magician wrote:Updating the list...

I'm scum because Yin...
  • Used the English spelling of "artefacts"
    but used the US version of "color"...

  • Has a "poetic and similar" writing style
    but has so many contradictions and jank compared to my writing style and comparing pieces I just randomly made with no thought...

  • Has "poetic and similar writing"
    Despite the fact all the proof is literal song lyrics and the songs are linked in my sig as a spotify playlist...

  • Detonated Ircher 22-28 minutes after I last posted in thread and 4.5 hours before I reappeared...
    Despite the fact I eat at that time and had a RL event happen that I'm not willing to go in to

  • This bullshit not-even-a-tell...
    In post 4958, Amy Dunne wrote:
    In post 2890, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Ircher
    In post 2891, Yin wrote:
    The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.

    They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-

    Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even her
    EVEN HER.


    His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.

    If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.

    His fingers snap.

    DETONATE.

    14 minutes after Ircher self-voted detonate happened. No way are we yeeting Flea ever in this game.
  • The simplest solution points to it being me when it is vastly more complex.
  • FUCKING TIMEZONES.
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Post Post #4996 (isolation #608) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:44 pm

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Fun fact btw, if you're using timezone and timestamp clearing, Yin mostly posts at between 5 and 6 am my time.

I don't work, I have ADHD, like fuck am I awake at those times unless I'm already awake lol
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Post Post #4997 (isolation #609) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:55 pm

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Ya know something, screw dignity.

Amy your points against me are so fucking bad they're hilarious.
At least when I was tunnelled I had mechanical and flavour backing.
You have literally nothing. You're trying to dig with tunnel using a broken fork.



The above is a summary of your case.
You got nothing, I'm literally shooting down all you have before it even gets a chance to take off.
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Post Post #5011 (isolation #610) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:20 am

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I am screwed seven ways to sunday aren't I... worst of all my tinfoil was right...

Screw you Ydrasse <3 also yes your Yin writing sucked. :P
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Post Post #5014 (isolation #611) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:31 am

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Also, gotta love the vibes of The Raconteurs (sp?)

oh and RIP Joey Jordison, the most down to earth pint sized drum demon to ever be <3
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Post Post #5015 (isolation #612) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:32 am

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I could actually get behind Chara today...
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Post Post #5016 (isolation #613) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:33 am

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clidd ignoring me is amazing ngl, and I'm sure that's cause he knows I'll break him >:)
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Post Post #5036 (isolation #614) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:07 am

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I mean I've no intention of voting at all, honestly.
I don't know who to vote for my wincon, and nobody trusts me enough to vote me.
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Post Post #5037 (isolation #615) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:08 am

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In post 5025, clidd wrote:i mean, flea has basically had a tone of debauchery since faer slot was set as universal PoE and i don't see any solving coming from fae regarding ydrasse/chara/me

most posts are performative fillers that reflect like outed scum

you probably also haven't forgotten the mechanical theory that served as an excuse for faer to avoid scumhunting/townhunting for most of the game

pedit: meh, so go ahead then

because flea has to be town for chara to be scum
Pot Kettle. That's all I'm saying.
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Post Post #5039 (isolation #616) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:09 am

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In post 5034, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5015, Flea The Magician wrote:I could actually get behind Chara today...
In post 5016, Flea The Magician wrote:clidd ignoring me is amazing ngl, and I'm sure that's cause he knows I'll break him >:)
Why do you autoassume that makes him scum?
I dont, I assume nothing at this stage.
Clidd never ignores me though, he knows I'll happily 1vs1 him, we've tunnelled each other before.
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Post Post #5041 (isolation #617) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:10 am

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In post 5038, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5020, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im like 95% of the way to locking in chara as last scum
Pooky convinced me Ydra was Yin, sorry Flea. :oops:
not sure what you're sorry for, but eh. It's a game. :)
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Post Post #5057 (isolation #618) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:29 am

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In post 5048, clidd wrote:
In post 5045, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 5028, clidd wrote:after reading the last two pages of flea's iso i don't see anything related to town-solving or anything i like

chara's iso is meh, but looks better than flea and its interactions with ydrasse don't seem s/s (unless you think they did ss theater)
how does ydra red flip clear chara?
chara isn't clear, but the way she and chara were arguing made me lean town!chara after a ydrasse scumflip and flea's play in general has been more compatible with scum

but as I said, I'm not imposing my read, you two are the ones who will decide not me
pfffpfpfpft
Now who's the stubborn one refusing to reassess. I was always assessing other players around me you know, you should know that Clidd, you know I'm always watching and judging interactions between people.
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Post Post #5058 (isolation #619) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:31 am

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In post 5047, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5041, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 5038, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5020, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im like 95% of the way to locking in chara as last scum
Pooky convinced me Ydra was Yin, sorry Flea. :oops:
not sure what you're sorry for, but eh. It's a game. :)
I was sure you had to be Yin and that’s why Ydra scumflip forced me to reacess.
Honestly, my tinfoil was Ydra put a lot of effort into the "Kabuto Kid" post or whatever you call him, and given she's an English Major, she'd know the power of wordplay.
Thing for me is if I'm going for a gimmick, I do it consistently, I role play 6 days a week, twice on saturdays. I can assume a character and a style of being easily.
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Post Post #5065 (isolation #620) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:56 am

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OH I'm not going anywhere until I'm the last town standing. I'm keeping to what I said.
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Post Post #5066 (isolation #621) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:57 am

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Chara look at my writing style, then look at Yin's writing style, then look at Mad Hatters Tea Partys writing style.

Then tell me I wrote those post.
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Post Post #5068 (isolation #622) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:08 pm

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I mean I was trying to prove that I wasn't yin. My writing style is more verbose and with a generally wider range of words. (We'll ignore the fact I failed a neurodivergant word test in the most neurodivergant way possible, was funny, it rejected all my words.)
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Post Post #5079 (isolation #623) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:03 pm

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In post 5077, Chara wrote:
In post 5057, Flea The Magician wrote:pfffpfpfpft
Now who's the stubborn one refusing to reassess. I was always assessing other players around me you know, you should know that Clidd, you know I'm always watching and judging interactions between people.
not sure what of this post is clidd refusing to reassess, besides that he still scumreads you more. the reasoning is directly based on Ydrasse's flip and the fact she kept avoiding me.
I find their lockread of me laughable, to be honest, and he's doing everything he can to avoid interaction with me.

Thing is, even when you scumread someone like that ignoring them is never remotely pro-town. Reads are generated around interactions like this.

So clidd is either scared of me actually being town and forcing him to fully reassess, or, clidd is scared scum.
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Post Post #5080 (isolation #624) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:05 pm

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Part of the issue is Clidd now seems to be trying to play safe. He's literally just dropped the read, and stepped back leaving all responsibility to others.

At least I'm here talking with people, I've no intent to vote and certainly will not vote for myself. Clidds locked in harder than I was.

Hell at least I dropped it the moment I said I would, the moment I was proven wrong.
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Post Post #5083 (isolation #625) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:39 pm

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I'd prefer to eject you over clidd at this point. You're at least making sense and interacting decently, like there's actual conversation, acknowledgement of things going on and of errors.
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Post Post #5084 (isolation #626) » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:57 pm

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Like I don't care if I'm lockscum, I do care if I'm not being talked to because especially at this stage that is incredibly anti-town.
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Post Post #5095 (isolation #627) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:55 am

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In post 5085, Chara wrote:i think engaging with you is the bare minimum i'd do as scum here too. i can agree about it generally being anti-town to avoid it, but i don't see why it makes clidd scum or me less likely scum for you.
Frankly I'm in a shit place in this game, and it's not going to do much this game due to my position of the ass end of reads lists.

Clidd is someone who engages actively with people, I haven't seen scum clidd to my memory, and this is so far off what I'm used to as town clidd I gotta suspect. Honestly I've been equally suspicious of you both and I honestly couldn't swing it either way at this point. I don't want to risk it by voting and I'm trying to avoid having my influence affect how Pooks and Amy are approaching this. If Amy is who I think she is, she's a freaking mean player here and Pooks is godlike when they get their head in the game.

In post 5086, Chara wrote:
In post 5080, Flea The Magician wrote:Part of the issue is Clidd now seems to be trying to play safe. He's literally just dropped the read, and stepped back leaving all responsibility to others.

At least I'm here talking with people, I've no intent to vote and certainly will not vote for myself. Clidds locked in harder than I was.
first part i understand as a read, second part i don't understand from the perspective of you still need to eliminate the town besides yourself even if you're planning to be the last one left. why does it make you more town fypov?
It doesn't. I'm looking for town, not towncred - because frankly I ain't going to get any by any stretch at this point, so I may as well keep going the best I can and hope it comes down to the 1vs1 at least.
Hey you got my good side too :D
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Post Post #5100 (isolation #628) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:15 am

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In post 5096, Chara wrote:you don't want to influence Amy and Pooky's decision, but you've been mentioning clidd being scummy for a while. are you just planning on sheeping them? clidd is doing the same thing so i'm having a hard time figuring out which one of you is the town here, all i really have to go on is Ydrasse's treatment of both your slots, and clidd doesn't really fit as a partner for her to me, unless you have a reason to think that. like, i'm also trying to find out which one of you is the town, looking town should be half your wincon here.
I wont be voting today. I will air my reads, I will talk and interact, my reads have been stupid bad. Clidd isnt dong the same, becase he is not interacting, he is hardlining his inactivity. At least I'm still trying. Looking town isnt my wincon town being yeet, including me and i'll deal with that later.
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Post Post #5129 (isolation #629) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:39 am

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In post 5122, clidd wrote:i'm still leaning town!chara and scum!flea

give me some minutes (I'll look for a scumgame of mine)
Given I'm lock scum to you, there should be no lean. It should be absolute.
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Post Post #5130 (isolation #630) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:39 am

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In post 5122, clidd wrote:i'm still leaning town!chara and scum!flea

give me some minutes (I'll look for a scumgame of mine)
Given I'm lock scum to you, there should be no lean. It should be absolute.
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Post Post #5133 (isolation #631) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:23 am

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holy fuck you actually acknowledged me o.o

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I'm actually stunned o.o

I have a point though, you've been so set, so locked on me being scum to the point you've locked it in and reinforced it so much, there should be no lean for you.

A locked read is absolute, otherwise it's not locked.
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Post Post #5135 (isolation #632) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:17 am

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This means from your perspective, what you're selling is you and Chara are town, absolutely, there's no debate, there's nothing that can be done to adjust that read.

That you're delaying and not voting says to me that you're not as certain, and your read on me was never locked.
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Post Post #5139 (isolation #633) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:15 pm

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In post 5137, Chara wrote:meanwhile you keep talking about why clidd is so scummy and acting like not his town self, but also you're suspicious of both of us and aren't sure, but haven't actually given a reason for me to be scum at all.
I dont have a locked read, and I certainly haven't spent the last 2 in game days blanking another player.

Even if I did have solid scum or town reads, I would re-evaluating them at this point as we're 1 from loss.

My big issue with you Chara is you haven't real stuck out to me much, and admittedly I was hella tunnelled for most of the game so that's a blank memory anyway.
My bigger issue is Clidd lockscumming me, refusing to talk to me because his headspace isn't right to deal with me (Slightly offended by that ftr. I know I'm a hard person to get along with but sheesh, I thought we were good. Can't blame you though, you gotta look after yourself <3) and despite this lockscum read, isn't as locked into it as he's giving off.
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Post Post #5140 (isolation #634) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:17 pm

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To me a locked read is a read that does not change. Even in a potential game ending situation that read only then changes when presented with near indisputable information about alignment.
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Post Post #5144 (isolation #635) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:02 pm

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In post 5142, clidd wrote:the point of me not voting for you now was because my certainty the day before (ydrasse) was incorrect, which didn't give me so much confidence to trust 100% even in a lock-read (something not difficult to deduce)

but your interpretation of ''hey, look, clidd' doesn't demonstrate the confidence he should have in this read'' doesn't strike me as something of a town mentality that's trying to read me
You know me enough to know how I work, and I can appriciate the backing off before becoming toxic, it's something I need to work on myself.

And yes, you have summed it up well. You are not displaying the confidence that your reads say you have, and I find it worrying enough to need to know why? I don't intend to be voted for today, and I don't intend to be until the other townie here has gone too.
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Post Post #5154 (isolation #636) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:28 pm

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In post 5149, clidd wrote:I mean, while from my perspective your slot looks awful, from your perspective I'm not playing the town!clidd model you have, so it would probably be difficult for you to consider any post on my part as relevant to townread me (considering that in this world I would never act according to your expectations).

We would go around in circles of bad impressions about each other indefinitely until a greater force stops the loop (vote/elim).
There are several worlds in which you can still achieve your town model, which is the funny thing here.
It's almost as if you know you can't reach that level.
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Post Post #5155 (isolation #637) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:32 pm

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In post 5152, clidd wrote:@Flea

Not saying you have an obligation to convince me, since from the perspective of town!you I should be the one trying to convince you, but if we both follow that line basically nothing will change or happen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But I really needed something strong to doubt Chara or something coming from you that would make me question my current perspective about you.
I have no intention to convince you, or anyone for that matter.
What I'm finding the most curious here is your wording (My slot is oppressive scum more than chara is, which is an interesting word choice...) and your attempts to shut down conversation by saying we're just going to loop endlessly.

So break the loop. I have no intention to convince anyone of my alignment, what I do want to do is help Amy and Pooks gather enough information to make accurate choices. Thats my loop breaker.
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Post Post #5156 (isolation #638) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 5153, clidd wrote:Also, a point that would be interesting for you to talk about is the non-revaluation of Tanner by play, as you gave more credibility to the result of a mechanical theory (which we had no idea if it was reliable or not) instead of checking if Tanner seemed more towny or scummy for you.

I don't see how town!flea would insist on this angle.
I am a strong mechanics player, and a weak reads player.
Mechanics were showing in favour at that moment and we did not have the information we have now. I said the moment the theorem was proven wrong, I would leave it, and I did. I have several tinfoils, all of which are impressive stretches even by my standards.
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Post Post #5163 (isolation #639) » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:59 pm

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In post 5158, Amy Dunne wrote:I tyink it’s extremely important that whichever two of you are town, don’t auto assume who’s scum but be opej to the possibility that you could be wrong.

Like I agree Chara looks very good rn but it also is experiencing no pressure here from either Clidd or Flea and if both of you are town, we won’t be able to tell if Chara receives no pressure from either of you. It will be a lot easier to accurately evaluate Chara if it can’t just easily coast.

Like Robert played extemely scummy but he wound up flipping town. Chara may still be town but sonlong as it experiences 0 pressure from either Clidd or Flea, it’s really hard to be certain.
My other dilemma currently is that any pressure applied from me is worth nothing.
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Post Post #5164 (isolation #640) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:01 am

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In post 5160, Chara wrote:
In post 5158, Amy Dunne wrote:Like I agree Chara looks very good rn but it also is experiencing no pressure here from either Clidd or Flea and if both of you are town, we won’t be able to tell if Chara receives no pressure from either of you. It will be a lot easier to accurately evaluate Chara if it can’t just easily coast.
i am under pressure right now. this is so much pressure. i've only been posting this much because i'm trying to show i'm town. like it is to the point i almost want to just be wrong and scum gets eliminated today so i don't have to go into Elo and drag it out even more.
coasting is what i do when we have miseliminations and i have other players to sheep/soundboard off of. this is not that.
Frankly none of us should be self-voting at this point anyway.
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Post Post #5165 (isolation #641) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:43 am

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In post 5162, Yang wrote:It's me. I should choose
Who would you choose?

And this may be a slightly touchy subject, but without Yin to provide balance, what happens to you now?
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Post Post #5177 (isolation #642) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:23 am

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Just to cover bases, LavosCore is me and is my modding account

Why this appeared in that accounts ego search is beyond me.
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Post Post #5178 (isolation #643) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:26 am

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You can't arrive at a scum chara without a town flea, is the problem here

By refusing to re-evaluate me, you cannot revaluate the game state.
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Post Post #5197 (isolation #644) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:48 am

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In post 5180, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5165, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 5162, Yang wrote:It's me. I should choose
Who would you choose?

And this may be a slightly touchy subject, but without Yin to provide balance, what happens to you now?
Yang posted in the masonry that Yin was town. :lol:
Hey I got burned by the mechanics so I'm going to have fun with this persona. :P
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Post Post #5199 (isolation #645) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:49 am

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In post 5186, Yang wrote:Flea shares an alignment with Hectic.
Yeah, we both mod games.

If I'm up the Hectics level is an entirely difference sceanario.
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Post Post #5201 (isolation #646) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:51 am

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In post 5193, Chara wrote:when i played with scum Flea, faer arguments made more sense to me than they are right now, i don't know if that's incidental or an indicator fae might try to be more "palatable" in faer play as scum, but it's hard to make a judgement with so little experience, just something i was considering.
Town Flea embraces chaos.
Scum Flea treads carefully.

Ironically town me gets more scumreads than scum me.
and scum me gets more town reads than town me.
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Post Post #5206 (isolation #647) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:17 am

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Thing is at this point we're all responsible to some degree.

Me more than others for the town loss when it happens.
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Post Post #5217 (isolation #648) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:22 pm

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The biggest screw factor in this game is for 3 of us, it's 50/50 already.
For two of us, it's dodging the needle in the haystack.

This isn't a simple game by any means - it's a freaking Hecc-tic game.

This is part of my beef with Clidd rn.
Clidd has his solve, and is being contradictory over the "I want to see if Chara is town, but flea is absolutely scum here" as though these are potentially difference scenarios.
Then Chara I don't recall has actually expressed a solve-like read here.
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Post Post #5227 (isolation #649) » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:01 pm

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In post 5222, clidd wrote:
In post 5217, Flea The Magician wrote:The biggest screw factor in this game is for 3 of us, it's 50/50 already.
For two of us, it's dodging the needle in the haystack.

This isn't a simple game by any means - it's a freaking Hecc-tic game.

This is part of my beef with Clidd rn.
Clidd has his solve, and is being contradictory over the "I want to see if Chara is town, but flea is absolutely scum here" as though these are potentially difference scenarios.
Then Chara I don't recall has actually expressed a solve-like read here.
This makes me want to vote Chara ^

It's not the first time you've interpreted my post in the worst possible way.
But this is how I've interpreted it.
And that is how I will continue to interpret it.

But vote Chara then. You are so set and keen on that I am scum, do it.
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Post Post #5230 (isolation #650) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:03 am

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I'm aware, I'm also aware that in the pits hierarchy I'm at the bottom.
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Post Post #5232 (isolation #651) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:23 am

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No, I'd be inclined to believe you.

While clidd is scummy af in his evasion of me and what appear to me to be fake re-read attempts, Chara seems so lacking in todays efforts
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Post Post #5233 (isolation #652) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:24 am

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But I've also said I'm not voting, its 3 to yeet. My vote isn't required.
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Post Post #5239 (isolation #653) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 am

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In post 5238, clidd wrote:
In post 5232, Flea The Magician wrote:No, I'd be inclined to believe you.

While clidd is scummy af in his evasion of me and what appear to me to be fake re-read attempts, Chara seems so lacking in todays efforts
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I have nothing productive to discuss with you and your bad faith has been an constant element during much of this phase directed at me.
You may take your bad-faith argument, and I'm sure you can work out where to place it.
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Post Post #5240 (isolation #654) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:59 am

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Genuinely "Bad-faith" is only ever used to distance from me, its used to deny me any standing in the game, to deny any sort of credibility to what I'm trying to fucking say and get to, and given I'm already on the spikes, well so be it.
In post 5237, clidd wrote:don't care much about the final result even though I'm playing according to my wicon (respecting site rules)
This is not playing to your wincon. This is "fuggit idc"

You're willing to pass over some of Charas behaviours as "playstyle features" - but knowing what I'm like, knowing how I play, I don't get the same deal?

yeah you're scum. You've literally danced over the thread and given absolutely zero to it. You've done this big re-read but are so keen to keep the "Flea scum!" narrative you've literally passed over a lot of what seems to be incriminating behaviour from Chara as "features"
You're literally treating Chara as Goat Simulator. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
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Post Post #5245 (isolation #655) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:02 am

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Flea will tell you to shove you bad faith argument regardless of alignment and amazingly only ever fucking happens when I'm town.
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Post Post #5259 (isolation #656) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:55 am

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In post 5256, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5254, clidd wrote:
In post 5247, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5211, Chara wrote:
In post 5207, Amy Dunne wrote:I’m not locked into Flea being scum since Ydra flipped. Do you honestly think this is what Pooky actually meant?
is what i thought Pooky meant. he thinks i'm scum so it doesn't matter who i pick.
In post 5213, Chara wrote:not trying to say Pooky's actually trying to make the game's outcome my fault, just saying that was what is stressing me out.
In post 5215, Chara wrote:just vote whoever you want to then.
Chara obviously has to know that Pooky isn’t abdicating responsibility for the outcome of this game. It reads like frozen scum with this. It doesn’t want to take a strong stand on either Clidd or Flea because it then knows it has to backtrack on it, where as both Clidd and Flea had no problem doing this. Town tends to not really concern themselves with this sort of thing because they know they will have no trouble re-evaluating but scum tends to struggle with that, hence the frozen response.
Yep, I also noticed that it doesn't have such a strong instance compared to me/flea (who have been fighting for a long time).

A point that I liked was it sympathizing with me, but on second thought ydrasse also sympathized with me (and she was scum) so...
Both you and Flea were fine with yeeting Chara. Neither of you was afraid of 1v1ing the other. Having to navigate a 1v1 is pretty much scum’s worst nightmare. I’ve been in that situation twice as scum. Won it once and lost it the second time. It’s far easier to win in an E-3 than an E -2 always.
Slight push given Clidds near refusal to speak with me much.
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Post Post #5261 (isolation #657) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:22 am

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In post 5257, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5255, clidd wrote:I'm interested to see how Chara will react to these recent events.
It’s just my opinion that yours and Flea’s response to the gamestate look townier than Chara’s. Chara doesn’t want to take a stand on either of you.
This is one of my big concerns with the Chara yeet rn if I'm honest.

Chara's crusin and not taking a stance. Even with my call out.
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Post Post #5264 (isolation #658) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:29 am

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Ain't up to me, it's up to you lot.

I've accepted the 1vs1 anyway and accepted that while I was mech locked.
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Post Post #5280 (isolation #659) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:01 am

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VOTE: Flea to flee.
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Post Post #5284 (isolation #660) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:52 am

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That is hammer, and I never lie about my post-hammer claim.

I am actually town, and ngl I'm freaking amazed we've won that.
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Post Post #5335 (isolation #661) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:29 am

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In post 5299, Hectic wrote:Pooky's kinda OP, isn't he
Pooky is freaking scary. Genuinely they scare me if we're in a game together.
In post 5309, Ydrasse wrote:THE IRCHER DETONATION POST TOOK A YEAR OFF MY LIFE
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Post Post #5337 (isolation #662) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:30 am

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Cards on table I probably should've replaced out early, my mental and physical health have taken absolute nosedives to the point I even split on myself half way through this.

I apologise if I made anyones game uncomfortable :(

It was a really well fought game though, and my criticisms of the Yin writing stand ^_^ no apologies for that :P
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Post Post #5342 (isolation #663) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:44 am

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Tweetie I'm reading the dead thread and you scare me, I love you to bits these comparisons are amazing <3
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Post Post #5351 (isolation #664) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:57 am

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Also what I churned out is good enough for an English qualification here, and apostrophes aren't just plural, I'm aware. possessives and smushing words together too - but placement makes a big difference :P
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Post Post #5359 (isolation #665) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:49 am

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In post 5355, Isis wrote:Ok. I have a surprise for you all.


I was Yang.
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Post Post #5375 (isolation #666) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:38 am

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In post 5369, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 5355, Isis wrote:Ok. I have a surprise for you all.


I was Yang.
In other absolutely shocking news, scientists have discovered that water is indeed wet.
Nope. Water makes things wet.
Water cannot itself be wet :P

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