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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:58 am

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Did everyone but Nero scumread my slot?
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:07 am

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Yeah but I was wrong so...
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:08 am

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Iec:
In post 1540, Iecerint wrote:It's true that Andres (and I) joined the game to play with Dan. I doubt he would kill Dan if scum in this situation (like, I'd suspect he wants to play with Dan more than he wants to win, even if scum), though he could be on whichever team didn't kill Dan.
In post 1544, Iecerint wrote:"Simple" seems very weak in this set-up given the flips and claimed roles so far, especially with limited-shot being added.

With the knowledge that the neighborhood exists, I think A50's behavior is null (unless the neighborhood is all town, and then his prior probability of being town is low, anyway). This is because scumA50 would already be aware of the neighborhood and would have the information necessary to play this out.
And before those:
In post 1398, Iecerint wrote:Gamma wagon when she was reticent: [Iecerint], cyrus62, Andresvmb, Dunnstral, [nomnomnom]

That would mean the buddy is probably Cyrus or Andres.

Disclaimer: I haven't played with AA in a very long time and don't remember if there's something idiosyncratic about how they play that accounts for their behavior.
Note: By partner he meant WW (partner to EJ)

So he suspected Andres/cyrus to be WW but also thought Andres wouldn't shoot Dan on N1.

I don't really get 1544, but -at least- it's now a proven fact that if I'm Scum (of either faction) that I was not informed of the Hood via a partner. I dunno if that should make me more likely Town or Scum to him though.

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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:09 am

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In post 2200, Dwlee99 wrote:Did everyone but Nero scumread my slot?
I think if you ISO Kitty you'd get the same read regardless of your Role PM.

One more to go..

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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:16 am

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nom nom nom nom nom nom nom...

First and foremost I'll include this one for Dwlee's entertainment.. :lol:
In post 1279, nomnomnom wrote:Feel free to talk to me about other slots I'm curious about how you feel about other slots, especially Kitty and the other lurkier slots in the game
Before that nom was busy defending Dunn and pushing Gamma with a minor mention of a TR on cyrus (this was during a back & forth with HEM, which points to cyrus not being Mafia at the very least)

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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:25 am

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So I guess everyone wanted to flip Dwlee's slot earlier, but I still don't think it the right way to go.

Like, disregarding my own reads and going by what I've just quoted I think neither cyrus nor Nero stand a chance of being Mafia here, while Dwlee is definitely not WW. The only one that can go either way imho is Andres (at first I thought HEM's flip on him meant he can't be Mafia, but while skimming HEM's old games I saw him telling rb to be prepared for bussing, so I dunno anymore)

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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:04 pm

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Thank you almost 50 . This here is why I don't suspect almost50 at all
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:16 pm

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Okay here's a proposal: there is scum in me/Nero unless A50 and Cyrus have fooled us. If we have killed correctly, then we win by killing ythan. If we have killed incorrectly, we go 2 v 1 v 1, in which case scum are forced to cross kill to prevent drawing with each other, and town wins anyway. Thoughts on killing Nero first?
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:42 pm

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I'm against it
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:01 pm

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In post 2208, Nero Cain wrote:I'm against it
Lol love this . How many games has it been since you made it to day five?
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:14 pm

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Dunno, it's been awhile but I mean if we are saying that it's a mechanical solve with both scum being in the hood then it just means it's a dw/ythan
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:16 pm

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Actually, that means it's Nero/ythan :cool:
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:17 pm

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Associatives/roleblock show I'm not werewolf and associatives show I'm not mafia.
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:17 pm

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If it's just dw/ythan here and we eliminate ythan here then I could get dw for the town win and he knows this.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:19 pm

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If you're town and I'm evil, killing you here is throwing when I could get ythan today and get you tomorrow for a win.
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:19 pm

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Hard defending Titus and then arguing that scum don't have similar roles hardly cleared you as mafia.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:21 pm

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You know why I defended Titus, and it worked! Unless you think I have a death wish for my partners, you might want to rethink that.
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:21 pm

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Also one-shot motion detector sounds fake.
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:22 pm

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You don't get me tomorrow though is the whole point. I mean I guess you could but I represent a much bigger threat than ythan
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 pm

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You know what sounds fake to me? Being the only neighbor without a power
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 pm

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I almost certainly would get you tomorrow if we killed ythan today when ythan (probably) flips mafia and we are werewolf hunting.

Pedit: y'all have powers cause you're evil
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:25 pm

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Who is more likely to flip werewolf: person roleblocked when solo werewolf made a kill, or the person who tunneled Titus through a guilty on a werewolf
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:27 pm

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Ythan is a fucking layup. You have to miseliminate me today bc assuming that ythan doesn't kill u tonight then u can just get him for the ez win
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:31 pm

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Except if you flip town, Ythan has to kill me to win. And I have to kill him to win. So town wins assuming there is scum in me/you.
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:35 pm

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Nero how confident are you in Cyrus and A50 town?
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