Not Quite Normal Multiball (Game Over)

[WhemeStar]

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[WhemeStar]

Thanks teddy bear

[petapan]

im okay w/ ending the day now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait i havent done the scoreboard update yet

[petapan]

wait i havent done the scoreboard update yet

oh right gotta make sure we get that

[petapan]

as of right now i have read maybe 70% of this game and retained 15% of it

[Dannflor]

taco has read 15% of the game and retained 70% of it

[petapan]

lmfao

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

taco hasn't read shit but has solved the game four times over already.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I almost cried when I saw that first pagetop and my cat was there but my cat is gone and I'm sad.

we must avenge my cat

[The Resistance]

i think its hilarious how much you dance around my PR claim being a point in my favor while trying to discred it. you know I'm town and want to push for my mislim here, huh?

What PR claim? (I acknowledge you have claimed later, but as far as I'm aware, you hadn't claimed to this point.) All you did was claim that you have a really useful role.

WHen I signed up I just followed a link that peta posted in the epicmafia forum maf discord and said yeah lets do it so lmao

Am I really going to have to read another 5 pages of you spamming the thread with AtE and excuses?

This is a big game with a lot of hyper posters, some townies are bound to lose their footing in the social landscape.

Like, you literally just said this about VFP, and with that on your mind, you did not even consider that as a possibility that could apply to Vax as well?

Meh, there's being drowned out and then there is not contributing at all. I haven't looked at VFP's or most of Vax's posts, but the few posts of Vaxkiller I've seen are 100% devoid of game relevant content. That's not a good look; certainly Vaxkiller could say something useful in the few posts he does have, but he fails even that. (Granted, I've only read a subset of Vaxkiller's posts, so maybe I missed the ones with actual game content.)

mastina's read on kakeguri and posts like this feel unbelievable

mastina's reads are mostly irrelevant. What matters more is her engagement level. So far, she seems pretty engaged; thus, I'm inclined to town read her.

because we claim THIRD MASON

My read on your slot instantly drops from this because if I were a werewolf and knew you were town, I would 100% be killing your slot during the night. (To be clear, I am not interested in elimming this slot any time soon despite this; I'm just noting from a NKA perspective, this instantly raises their scum equity.)

For the record: speeding our way through our first elimination in a day phase with two eliminations sharing one deadline is actually optimal play imo

Oh, I was unaware that the deadline wasn't reset between elims. The speed lim makes more sense if the deadline isn't reset.

Mastina is town

Vaxkiller is starting to look better.

*snip of giant reads list*

(For future reference.)

i've never seen pooky happier or more playful. i would bet my life on pooky being town here. seriously.

Uh, is this an actual town tell for Pooky? My impression is he is always like that, and if anything, this seems like it would be a negative point. (As in, he can use the excessive posts as a smoke screen to avoid actual hunting.)

DGB > Vecna > Taco > Anya > Mastina

I'm thinking Taco > DGB > Vecna > Anya > mastina is the better elim order based on scum equity. I actually don't think mastina has scum equity here and should be higher in your reads list.

I don't actually town read Vecna, but my hydra partner does so I'm putting some stock into that. Ditto for Anya (but to a much lesser extent).

U know what, imma just claim more of it. Im basically a gunsmith but for ww

And we're supposed to believe that huh...

unprompted tilt roleclaims are >>rand town in my experience - malefactor claiming here just opens themselves to being a NK

That wasn't a tilt claim, and it especially wasn't unprompted.

why do we have Kayzan outside of consensus PoE btw?

Because Kazyan isn't bleeding scum like someone around here is....

Why on a

holistic

level is Kayzan town?

That's precisely why.

I think actually that BP doesn't actually work against the Wolf factional kill, just based on my own role PM specifying specific roles.

We've been over this already.

I would not be surprised to see all scum within
[Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta]


I just need to narrow this down further.

Please stop spamming. Around 40%-60% of the last 15 pages have been you spamming two-liners.
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This game is rather unreadable with Taco's sheer volume of posts in the last several pages.
~Ircher

[Kakeguri Addicts]

My read on your slot instantly drops from this because if I were a werewolf and knew you were town, I would 100% be killing your slot during the night. (To be clear, I am not interested in elimming this slot any time soon despite this; I'm just noting from a NKA perspective, this instantly raises their scum equity.)

They shot at echo though, which makes me believe they were actually aiming at mafia.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

im okay w/ ending the day now

ugh my other heads aren't really responsive right now. I'd rather wait but I mean if you dont care what other stuff we have, go forth and end the day.

-Mister Ocean

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm not outting what it is because it gives info to WW.

You have already claimed that it is a ww version of a gunsmith, and claimed that a roleblocker is a false positive

but the name of that role, thats where you draw the line? That one is just too much info?

yup

[Taco Hemingway]

i think its hilarious how much you dance around my PR claim being a point in my favor while trying to discred it. you know I'm town and want to push for my mislim here, huh?

What PR claim? (I acknowledge you have claimed later, but as far as I'm aware, you hadn't claimed to this point.) All you did was claim that you have a really useful role.

WHen I signed up I just followed a link that peta posted in the epicmafia forum maf discord and said yeah lets do it so lmao

Am I really going to have to read another 5 pages of you spamming the thread with AtE and excuses?

This is a big game with a lot of hyper posters, some townies are bound to lose their footing in the social landscape.

Like, you literally just said this about VFP, and with that on your mind, you did not even consider that as a possibility that could apply to Vax as well?

Meh, there's being drowned out and then there is not contributing at all. I haven't looked at VFP's or most of Vax's posts, but the few posts of Vaxkiller I've seen are 100% devoid of game relevant content. That's not a good look; certainly Vaxkiller could say something useful in the few posts he does have, but he fails even that. (Granted, I've only read a subset of Vaxkiller's posts, so maybe I missed the ones with actual game content.)

mastina's read on kakeguri and posts like this feel unbelievable

mastina's reads are mostly irrelevant. What matters more is her engagement level. So far, she seems pretty engaged; thus, I'm inclined to town read her.

because we claim THIRD MASON

My read on your slot instantly drops from this because if I were a werewolf and knew you were town, I would 100% be killing your slot during the night. (To be clear, I am not interested in elimming this slot any time soon despite this; I'm just noting from a NKA perspective, this instantly raises their scum equity.)

For the record: speeding our way through our first elimination in a day phase with two eliminations sharing one deadline is actually optimal play imo

Oh, I was unaware that the deadline wasn't reset between elims. The speed lim makes more sense if the deadline isn't reset.

Mastina is town

Vaxkiller is starting to look better.

*snip of giant reads list*

(For future reference.)

i've never seen pooky happier or more playful. i would bet my life on pooky being town here. seriously.

Uh, is this an actual town tell for Pooky? My impression is he is always like that, and if anything, this seems like it would be a negative point. (As in, he can use the excessive posts as a smoke screen to avoid actual hunting.)

DGB > Vecna > Taco > Anya > Mastina

I'm thinking Taco > DGB > Vecna > Anya > mastina is the better elim order based on scum equity. I actually don't think mastina has scum equity here and should be higher in your reads list.

I don't actually town read Vecna, but my hydra partner does so I'm putting some stock into that. Ditto for Anya (but to a much lesser extent).

U know what, imma just claim more of it. Im basically a gunsmith but for ww

And we're supposed to believe that huh...

unprompted tilt roleclaims are >>rand town in my experience - malefactor claiming here just opens themselves to being a NK

That wasn't a tilt claim, and it especially wasn't unprompted.

why do we have Kayzan outside of consensus PoE btw?

Because Kazyan isn't bleeding scum like someone around here is....

Why on a

holistic

level is Kayzan town?

That's precisely why.

I think actually that BP doesn't actually work against the Wolf factional kill, just based on my own role PM specifying specific roles.

We've been over this already.

I would not be surprised to see all scum within
[Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta]


I just need to narrow this down further.

Please stop spamming. Around 40%-60% of the last 15 pages have been you spamming two-liners.
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This game is rather unreadable with Taco's sheer volume of posts in the last several pages.
~Ircher

your quote walls are much less readable than my separated thought posts.
its my posting style, I deal with yours, get over mine.

[Taco Hemingway]

like you're literally commenting on things where the conversation actually wrapped up where you're trying to comment on something that is way out of date. its like are u trying to pretend like you're adding something or pretend like u can reach into the past and add ur thoughts?

ur just trying to *seem* active with your posts it seems rather than making meaningful analysis. It's like, no, we dont care about your comment about how something I said was already "discussed" before in a 150 page game.I don't even have the highest post count so don't even try to come at me for it.

You try to pretend you are reading but in reality, you are not grasping threads of conversation and are merely picking out individual posts and responding to them without any holistic view.

Post some real analysis because so far your quote wall responses have been cringy and scummy.

[petapan]

im okay w/ ending the day now

ugh my other heads aren't really responsive right now. I'd rather wait but I mean if you dont care what other stuff we have, go forth and end the day.

-Mister Ocean

oh no if you want to wait then ok lmao i was just saying im mentally tapped out yet again

[Taco Hemingway]

and tbh when I wrote my PoE I forgot your slot existed. you were still in there, I just hadn't given you any thought at all when writing it.

I'm here typing out analysis after analysis, showing high levels of complexity. You call me scum and refuse to engage/dialogue.


You see Vax call Mastina town.

Vax is town.


????

Your reading is just picking people and alignments out of a hat for the most part and I don't see any acutal reasoning behind it.

and TBH? I don't think there's any real reason that anyone should be townreading your slot here. This is the type of content your slot has provided nearly ALL GAME. You're just lucky some people(pooky, celestial) have been lazy and sticking to a dead player's legacy reads with no critical thought of engaging the game.

[Dannflor]

honestly titus is fine but every time ircher posts my read of that slot goes down a little bit

sorry ircher if you're town but I have not been connecting with how you're engaging at all this game

[Taco Hemingway]

I pointed out the very same thing about NKA wrt the shot at the mason being avoided - like if you're town here, you're not reading jack shit or at the very least being honest about that so people can fill in the blanks for you here.A lot of things you've quoted from me are outdated because it looks like you look for something "scummy" I said and then completely ignore any and all posts around it to determine my thought process. You're playing very 1 dimensional.

I never really had to play against scum you(or town you, for that matter) myself, so I don't know if this is your usual town game but I'm growing tired of the way you are skirting under the radar with the way you are shitting out bad takes.

[Taco Hemingway]

honestly titus is fine but every time ircher posts my read of that slot goes down a little bit

sorry ircher if you're town but I have not been connecting with how you're engaging at all this game

That's more or less my point lmao

[The Resistance]

I don't even have the highest post count so don't even try to come at me for it.

ISO #42 is your first post for Day 2. You now have 248 posts in the game putting you at the sixth highest post count in the game. I rest my case.
~Ircher

[Taco Hemingway]

probably going to do an overview of Ircher head sometime tomorrow with detailed thought linking(if possible lmao) to see where we are, it would help to sort you Ircher if you ellaborate/be forthcoming about anything you may have been bluffing perhaps about, or not been fully engaged with for example. We're all human, I acknowledge that sometimes stuff that is scummy can be attributed to just an off play, so it helps if you're just honest with us and tell us if you're just having trouble reading thegame and need help to get caught up or to point you in a direction to help you understand the gamestate better.

As much as I wanna be mean at this point in the game after all the shit I've been given, I am willing to drop that so we can get some answers from your head, as I do value your input.

[Taco Hemingway]

I don't even have the highest post count so don't even try to come at me for it.

ISO #42 is your first post for Day 2. You now have 248 posts in the game putting you at the sixth highest post count in the game. I rest my case.
~Ircher

That shouldn't be what you are interacting with me about first, and I hope this is not your last response.

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Echolocation

Gut VC looking at. Ircher isn't opposed.

Kazyan and morph are FoSes.

~Titus

VOTE: Petapan

Look, I'm voting your top townread! Get me!

Petapan is scum and your reads are bad and you are scum I know you are unwnd!!

Ooh look at me pushing you whatever could I be up to...!

Oddly performative. Gut pings.

Resistance is 100% not Mafia aligned here

You know it would be a bit funny if I was sitting on a WW guilty rn ya get?