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[Dwlee99]

T3 once faked a guilty on groupscum as traitor lmao

[skitter30]

idk i just didn't get good vibes
how do you feel abt mena btw?

I'm not sure.

I feel better about him today than I did yesterday in the moment.

It just felt so hurtful when he was lashing out at me : (

I'm unsure if he goes to such lengths when he's scum.

It's complicated.

Do you know why I am worried about you?

why do you feel better abt him today?
and i do not

[skitter30]

Oh is Ico just abysmal at scum so that's how his partners would know to kill him off early for cred or something? I am beginning to understand I think

well more just that dats is ridiculously good at reading him

[petapan]

Oh is Ico just abysmal at scum so that's how his partners would know to kill him off early for cred or something? I am beginning to understand I think

he's pretty good actually, he was like my favorite teammate ever in mini 2180. not the greatest of all time or anything but he's endgamed quite a few times from what i've seen, he just got tripped up very early here

did you not catch up overnight at all?

[Morning Tweet]

I'm guessing from the snippets I know that dwlee, vera, peta town

Mena idk same with art and skits idk

I have reason to believe Dragons is less likely to be scum but it's still possible

This is prolly dumb but still guessing t3 town

pedit: Not beyond the votes. im pretty limited access

And I see. is Dats figuring out Ico such a big factor they would know to bus?

I'm genuinely curious why the ico wagon is being treated like a "It had to happen" thing so Ydrasses lolhammer is meaningless

[skitter30]

I'm genuinely curious why the ico wagon is being treated like a "It had to happen" thing

so Ydrasses lolhammer is meaningless

i don't get what you're trying to say here
tweetie were you limited access overnight too?

[T3]

T3 once faked a guilty on groupscum as traitor lmao

Yeah but that was a calculated move, I had a reason for it. In Sibly's Elegy about 1/4 through Day 1 I was getting scumread so I decided to take the dive to give my partner's towncred. This game it was a mass of confusion and I do terribly in these scenarios.

[Morning Tweet]

Oh I see dats was putting ico to the blade that's probably part of why, lol

I suppose that Mena is the only person who can be labelled as trying to start a new wagon besides Ico that I can see so far

I'm genuinely curious why the ico wagon is being treated like a "It had to happen" thing

so Ydrasses lolhammer is meaningless

i don't get what you're trying to say here
tweetie were you limited access overnight too?

I was under the impression had Ydrasse not lolhammered, Ico would have lived on. But people today are giving me the opposite impression

Yes ive been gone since Monday but ill be back Thursday

[T3]

I think Ico just got caught by meta?

[petapan]

pedit: Not beyond the votes. im pretty limited access

oh ok

[skitter30]

i wasn't expecting, like, an 8-hour day1 but he got up to e1 like twice in that time + dats is really, really, really good at reading him and was calling him scum
ydra's hammer was probably premature (and probably scummy) but like i don't think it changed the ultimate outcome

and yeah you feel a little lost but if you were/are vla the whole time i think i can wait till you get back to get a better sense for where you're holding
and tbh if you were scum with ico idk if you would feel so lost rn

[T3]

By the way, since scum know the entire setup when you claim I think you should either claiim "VT" "Investigative PR" or "Protective PR" and then who you visited?

[Aristeia]

I'm getting goodvibes on both ico and dats thus far

Can you explain what gave you good vibes from Ico/Dats on those first 2 pages?

[Morning Tweet]

I like the part where Titanic locktowns Mena then subsequently unlocktowns him after receiving further meta lol. I wasnt going to townread Titanic just for that but it seems like they're the X-2 vote or something so prolly more likely town

As for Mena I dont think i have an opinion yet still -- i fully buy he was frustrated with the way he was being read and it's not AI

I'm finding it a little hard to believe Ydrasse would throw not only by lolhammering Ico but also meme playing the whole way thru as scum. I dunno just seems like double unfair to her teammates

Ok not a bad skim. I called like everyone town but here are my most serious ones. I would say Peta seems really good. I like dwlee. I am struggling to see scum Ydrasse both throw the game from the start and kill off Ico giving him no chance of playing.... maybe scum agreed to meme pregame I guess..? It also feels like I lack understanding since everyone here thinks she is scum.

I thought ta vera was more likely town but I dont feel strong about it yet. Probably same thing for T3

uh uh uh ya

[Morning Tweet]

Oh I read something from Dats that suggested Ydrasse only started trolling in response to when Ico was under an extreme amount of pressure, is this accurate?

[Aristeia]

I like the part where Titanic locktowns Mena then subsequently unlocktowns him after receiving further meta lol. I wasnt going to townread Titanic just for that but it seems like they're the X-2 vote or something so prolly more likely town

As for Mena I dont think i have an opinion yet still -- i fully buy he was frustrated with the way he was being read and it's not AI

I'm finding it a little hard to believe Ydrasse would throw not only by lolhammering Ico but also meme playing the whole way thru as scum. I dunno just seems like double unfair to her teammates

Ok not a bad skim. I called like everyone town but here are my most serious ones. I would say Peta seems really good. I like dwlee. I am struggling to see scum Ydrasse both throw the game from the start and kill off Ico giving him no chance of playing.... maybe scum agreed to meme pregame I guess..? It also feels like I lack understanding since everyone here thinks she is scum.

I thought ta vera was more likely town but I dont feel strong about it yet. Probably same thing for T3

uh uh uh ya

I feel very left out Tweet : (

[Morning Tweet]

from you I saw RVS and a huge effort to try and reconcile with Mena but idk abt anything else

[skitter30]

I'm getting goodvibes on both ico and dats thus far

Can you explain what gave you good vibes from Ico/Dats on those first 2 pages?

i liked the tone/meme-ing back and forth on p1
obviously i was wrong on ico but on p1 he sounded p good, i sort of thought if he was scum he would be more ~forced~ around dats
which tbf happened later but at that point i liked it

[Aristeia]

why do you feel better abt him today?

I guess the more I think about how bad his reaction was, the more I think it gets into "too bad to be scum" territory

It's just so over the top and emotionally uncontrolled and he literally just did this a week ago in Tarot??

Does scum!mena really think he can shout down everyone and yeet me ? and then when I flip town does he really think him/ico survive the aftermath? It's just such a nonsensical line of play that I don't really know what to make of it?

I dunno : (

I think after I had time to think about it I don't feel as great about my first read in the moment.

[Aristeia]

i liked the tone/meme-ing back and forth on p1
obviously i was wrong on ico but on p1 he sounded p good, i sort of thought if he was scum he would be more ~forced~ around dats
which tbf happened later but at that point i liked it

I didn't think Ico's posting on the first 2 pages was very good, he seemed a bit oversensitive? I guess it is easier to say this with the benefit of hindsight >.<

[Titanic]

yo

[Titanic]

Was Mena's anger in Tarot genuine? if it was, I don't think it's really a matter of him using it as a strategy to misexecute you, aristeria

skitter, what makes you think the anger in this case is alignment-indicative rather than nai? which parts do you feel he's playing up?

[Titanic]

Definitely want to vote off-wagon today, don't see a 2 scum bus scenario, and it's

possible

even that it's all town. people were talking of intent and lolhammers which would discourage scum to bus there even if it's an early wagon which are usually safer to bus on

pretty sure ydrasse would feel really bad about lolhammering a partner without giving them a chance to claim, unless they agreed it was the move in the pt. but then, I don't see ico being fine with that move. also possible if ydrasse doesn't like the person she's hammering i guess, but ico's a cool dragon and I'm sure that's not the case. so probtown

[Titanic]

i don't think i'm even gonna bother reading that

33 was fucking briljant and i literally laughed my ass off and you know that

Dang from Dragon Masons to looking cornered in a few hours

Yeah I removed too much context from 83. 69 is what made it read bad

thought about voting the other dragon but he's the first to cut deep into what made ico's reaction bad so that's good

[T3]

Having just finished a game with scumena he posts waaaay shorter posts than townmena.