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[cyrus62]

also why do you think andre is scum? i don't think he's scummy.

His doc clime any doc would have protected nom or t3 n2 .

[cyrus62]

also why do you think andre is scum? i don't think he's scummy.

His doc clime any doc would have protected nom or t3 n2 .

[humaneatingmonkey]

just explain it without discussing other games.

[humaneatingmonkey]

His doc clime any doc would have protected nom or t3 n2

he claimed simple doctor

[humaneatingmonkey]

wait that's a good point actually

simple doctors would have probably targetted vanilla claims like i had done

[humaneatingmonkey]

I am, aside from being a Neighbor that apparently can’t trust my neighbors from keeping our conversations inside of that thread without pasting them directly (who doesn’t actually know that’s a rule in a bloody Mafia game?), a 2-Shot Simple Doctor.

The reason I’m revealing this now is because, as you might have guessed, I’ve used both shots protecting humaneatingmonkey both nights. I thought they were obvious Town at first, but for

some

reason I can’t figure out, they weren’t shot at. We know this because, well, 2 players have died every night.

I think that’s fascinating. Obviously I caught some of the softs so I didn’t protect Dan even though I was pretty sure they were Town (you can see my reads N1 already).

I voted for Gamma because of how they defended Elsa Jay - I would have done the same in almost any circumstance, because I felt that was particularly incriminating. I feel Iecerint and cyrus62 fit a bit of the same bill. And I found them somewhat Scummy for other reasons.

I thought all this was good posting (and I buy the claim since we don't have a protective per se, unless you count the protective part of the JK).

However; as I turned on to the next page I read:

Simple Doctor that’s limited? What’s the point? I can’t protect anybody meaningful, and the Scum or Werewolves or whatever are almost always going to try and shoot PRs or each other.

Well, isn't that a bit contradictory to your 1520?? I mean, you targeted HEM because you (a) thought he was Town and (b) hoped he was Vanilla. Yes? You explicitly said you thought he was Town, and your role cannot protect PRs anyway.

And you believe Scum are either targeting each other or are shooting down PRs (and judging by the flips it does look like they are indeed hunting down our PRs).

The question is: Why would it surprise you that someone you guessed was a VT was not shot by "PR-hunting-Scum"??

Andre never answered this

[cyrus62]

just explain it without discussing other games.

His play here matches his town play. I don't know how else to put it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

His play here matches his town play.

in what way just point out something

[cyrus62]

His play here matches his town play.

in what way just point out something

When he pushes so hard on people like he did with me till he knows they are town . That is his town game. Truth be told I don't have a good track record of defending town I normally defend scum with out knowing it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

thanks cyrus. i'll take a look at it.

[Almost50]

If I was scum I would have clawed my way onto the Elsa wagon. I wasn't there bc Dan hammered when I was waiting on ppl to talk at the end of d1. Let's actually kill scum, a50

Why were you off ALL elimination wagons though? If I let you get away with the Elsa one, why were you not on Gamma? And if you thought he was Town, why were you not on Tes?

My point is you usually go gang-ho for a lim, and especially so on D1. You're playing it safe here it seems. THAT is my point.

[Almost50]

This was B4 testarosa's Cc. I was pushing Titus B4 she claimed a "guilty" and you know I was like right n all

On surface level this might be true. But you ended the day voting ARC. Not Testa & not Titus... knowing at least one had to be Scum (because of the CC) you opted to vote ELSEWHERE. Why?

[Almost50]

I've never refused to eliminate from my hood (I assume that's what you mean by solve) and I'm not sure what gives you that impression other than my voting someone else that I think is scummy

Exactly! You have always said you wouldn't mind it, but you never actually pushed for it.

[Almost50]

also why do you think andre is scum? i don't think he's scummy.

His doc clime any doc would have protected nom or t3 n2 .

He claimed SIMPLE though, and T3 was claimed on D1 iirc, so Andres could not have protected him anyway.

Do you understand what Simple means? It means he can only protect VT (or Goon). Only Vanilla targets are protected. If he targets a PR the protection fails.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Going to claim here since no one is engaging me on Test. I am a two shot rolecop. I held my shot night 1. I checked Tess night 2. I checked her because of her vote pattern.

Tess is very likely guilty.

She came back full role cop.

Nero's reaction was after Titus' claim and result. Check the post numbers. Nero is painting an inaccurate picture. Even Dwlee recognized it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Nero I'm pretty sure that test is scum regardless of Titus!alignment so let's end the day there at the very least, yeah?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Titus claims and shares result, looks very towny doing so, even crumbing at daystart → Nero discrediting Titus and calling her scum and ignoring everything about the circumstances of the guilty

[Almost50]

Eh..

UNVOTE:

DUNN PLEASE HELP ME OUT! (I only trust your reads when I know you're Town, and you ARE confirmed Town here, so please please come talk to me)

P-edit: You guys...

VOTE: Nero

FTR, if Nero flips MAFIA; HEM is clear. He wouldn't be going this hard for Nero if he was the last of his kind. If Nero flip WW though HEM could still be Mafia.

[humaneatingmonkey]

He claimed SIMPLE though, and T3 was claimed on D1 iirc, so Andres could not have protected him anyway.

Do you understand what Simple means? It means he can only protect VT (or Goon). Only Vanilla targets are protected. If he targets a PR the protection fails.

i just realized that if you're a simple doctor, it doesn't make sense to target the towniest person because they could be pr — even after N2 when it seemed like we were in a role madness situation. i didn't even think anyone was vanilla.

the obvious strategy was just waiting for who claimed vanilla and then using all shots there to stop a night kill. i don't know why andre didn't do that instead.

[humaneatingmonkey]

even after N2

even in N2*

[humaneatingmonkey]

andre is back in my pool

[Almost50]

UNVOTE:

I guess my problem here is "I think" Nero wouldn't have shot Titus here. I am trying to put myself in a "Scum!Nero mindset" and I think it was best for him to keep her alive to appear extra busy hunting for her.

I don't know anymore..

[humaneatingmonkey]

Would you have voted out Titus, the girl who counterclaimed scum? Remember: T3 counterclaimed Elsa, and T3 ended up being town.

[Almost50]

i just realized that if you're a simple doctor, it doesn't make sense to target the towniest person because they could be pr

I disagree. Those who appear extra townie from the get go are usually the powerless. PRs like to play it safe.. hide in the shadows to avoid attention. That's why I almost always SR TPRs.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Titus would have been impossible to elim.