FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt - 2 Game Over

[Cabd]

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to burn a servant.

Avenger (6): Lancer, Foreigner, Alter Ego, Saber, Archer, Caster
Foreigner (2): Ruler, Avenger


Deadline: (expired on 2021-07-12 00:17:51)


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[Servant Lancer]

@new berserker, let me know if you want me/us to catch you up on anything.

[Servant Alter Ego]

I'll be leaving soon but please, no one get stupid and hammer before we get a replacement for Berserker.

[Servant Lancer]

Now when you say moon cancer's posts are not scummy, can you explain specifically why you don't think moon cancer's read on alter is scummy?

Because there's nothing for me to really go by on it.
I just don't read Moon as scummy though.

I want you to comment on moon's read on alter. And why you don't think it's scummy.

I don't understand the read. Why would that make it scummy?
Be it, Moon is probably right with the read.

Moon cancer voted alter because he was getting "too townread" and then when asked for more reasons, referred everyone to their ISO, which only contained "Alter thinks too much and their reads have too much uncertainty" which is very much not how I would characterize Alter's posts. Explain why you think this is not scum-indicative.

Well it starts saying that Ego has too much uncertainty. That's different to just town read.
I'm not sure why I'd directly find this scummy rather than Null?

Just because someone has a reason which isn't great doesn't mean it's scummy. Otherwise foreigner's original scum read on me should be one the favoured. But yet, we're here.

so why is foreigner scummy but moon cancer isn't?

[Servant Avenger]

so why is foreigner scummy but moon cancer isn't?

This is a loaded question.
I'm not ruling Moon out as scum. I do think they are mis lim bait though and I'd say most likely town from default.
Why am I going to vote where scum is voting though?

It's no different to you having a null read and me asking over and over why they aren't scum.

[Servant Lancer]

I mean, you've gladiated foreigner and diverted an elim away from moon cancer so it stands to reason that you think moon cancer isn't scummy. You also literally said you're not scumreading moon cancer. So I'm asking you what the difference is between the two that leads to scumreading foreigner but not moon cancer. how is that a loaded question?

why is moon cancer elimbait but foreigner isn't?


do you think moon cancer's wagon was scum-driven or that there were 2 or more scum on it?

scum bus each other all the time. are you saying you'd never willingly vote with the bus on scum?

[Cabd]

Servant Berserker is once again active with a new host.

[Servant Archer]

The fact that Avenger is now saying they don't even town read Moon Cancer (they are null) makes this play even wilder.

Was he really so bothered that town was going to elim a null read, that he decided to step in and make sure that did not happen?

[Servant Lancer]

@new berserker, let me know if you want me/us to catch you up on anything.

[Servant Alter Ego]

The fact that Avenger is now saying they don't even town read Moon Cancer (they are null) makes this play even wilder.

Was he really so bothered that town was going to elim a null read, that he decided to step in and make sure that did not happen?

On a day with a double elimination, no less.

[Servant Avenger]

I mean, you've gladiated foreigner and diverted an elim away from moon cancer so it stands to reason that you think moon cancer isn't scummy. You also literally said you're not scumreading moon cancer. So I'm asking you what the difference is between the two that leads to scumreading foreigner but not moon cancer. how is that a loaded question?

why is moon cancer elimbait but foreigner isn't?


do you think moon cancer's wagon was scum-driven or that there were 2 or more scum on it?

scum bus each other all the time. are you saying you'd never willingly vote with the bus on scum?

foreigner isn't lim bait, let's not pretend here.
I cant discuss on all of it because of the limits Cabd added here but I know that they used a scummy tactical move to try and push me a scum.
Since then, there's no effort at all from limming me other than the occasional shade with no backing.

At least Moon stuck with the scum read there. Well until the end of it, bit that's ot the points your arguing.

The difference with these 2 is foreigner is actively shading and doing fuck all else where.
Moon is just not posting.
The wagon I haven't looked over for Moon to thought. I also agree, it could be scum bussing. My argument isn't that Moon is always town and this is what you are trying to push my comments as.
My comment is that Moon is probably town from default but I wouldn't consider that if it was vs a town read.

[Servant Avenger]

On a day with a double elimination, no less.

Hmm, I missed this.
It's irrelevant at this stage I guess though.

[Servant Avenger]

Well do as you like.
Personally Ego has made me just feel shit at this stage to really care what happens.

I removed the challenge just go with me.

[Cabd]

No sooner had Atalanta settled back down with her plate to get some godsdamned sustenance when a new disturbance swelled from the arena. Someone was singing the blues. With a Zeus-fucking piano to accompany himself.

"I repent my hubris, release me from my torment!" Antonio Salieri sang mournfully, plunking along to his own tragic tune.

Nero perked up and started to join in with a truly awful descant. "We are SO not doing this," Atalanta declared. "Antonio, unSummon your piano and get back to business. We still have a field to winnow.

"And really, giving Nero an excuse to sing. Should have thrown some of those apples a bit harder at the start."

Avenger's true name is Antonio Salieri.

Vote count has been reset.

[Servant Berserker]

now this just seems weird

[Servant Archer]

@new Berserker, this is a little outdated, but this was my attempt at trying to get the new Ruler up to date::

Spoiler:

Dedicating time to this game but I wouldn't expect to much for 24ish hours due to the type of weekend.

A recap would be nice

Claims:

Avenger: I am claiming Miller
Assassin: Claims their NP a guaranteed cop-shot that can even go through the miller
Saber: Claimed their NP was one of the strongest in the game, but just recently claimed the ability would limit the posting of 1 player
Beast: Claimed they are informed that Shielder is town

Berserker/Mod Confirmed: They are immune to investigations, but I don't think that matters much, now that they are confirmed town anyways

And then here are a few detailed read lists, with post links and stuff that might help:

Here is Berserkers, it came towards the end of the Day 0, after it was clear Berserker was getting the master: 504
Here is mine: 901 / 902
Rider: 855
Previous Ruler: 834 cases town reads + 890 cases scum reads

[Servant Alter Ego]

VOTE: Moon Cancer

This first.

[Servant Berserker]

That is quite helpful, Archer.
I will likely heed at least some of my predecessor's advice as to reads, so the link to that is a particular boon.
Also I likely would have called this out eventually but that makes it a good time to state the biggest impact of investigations on me failing is that a watcher would not be advised to target me.

[Servant Assassin]

Couple things,

Before any of this happened I probably would have voted Saber. However I've reread foreigner, avenger, and moon caster and I now think it's prudent to eliminate Moon Caster. Rereading the early game, I dislike their early read on Alter more than I previously did. The lack of update or more detailed explanation when pressed should not come from a player who was frustrated that the rest of town were in fact townreading Alter. I still find the shift in the rest of their reads plausible. Foreigner's iso was less bad than I thought it was, but I still don't like the approach to caster. The interaction between Foreigner and Moon Cancer does not appear to be a bus to me. I still lean town on avenger.

VOTE: Moon Cancer

[Servant Caster]

VOTE: Moon Cancer

[Servant Rider]

To catch up and read, or just go with the flow? Decisions,

decisions

.

[Servant Archer]

I get whip lash going from 1260 to 1262.

I would not mind Avenger still being our first flip, but I could go for Moon as well

[Servant Rider]

VOTE: Moon Cancer

[Servant Alter Ego]

Well do as you like.
Personally Ego has made me just feel shit at this stage to really care what happens.

I removed the challenge just go with me.

Hey. I went for a drive to cool my head off.

Spoiler: For Avenger

For the sake of writing this post I'm just going to put aside all the game stuff and assume what you said here is true.

I'm sorry for making you feel like shit. I got tilted because of the notscience force replace and the sudden gladiate and I flew off the handle because of it. I've had a really stressful week and that combined with my frustration at how apathetic the game was getting all boiled over because of the dramatic change in circumstances. I still dislike the play for the reasons I've given but I recognize that I went too far with my words against you.

This is the second time I've flown off the handle at someone this game and I feel terrible about it. It's apparent I have a problem with keeping my emotions in check during games. I'm probably going to take a long break after this game. For the sake of this game, while it's running, I'm going to try to not be abusive any further.

Again, I'm sorry for hurting your feelings with my words.

[Servant Berserker]

I get whip lash going from 1260 to 1262.

I would not mind Avenger still being our first flip, but I could go for Moon as well

I'm somewhat of this mind myself. The way the challenge ended confuses me.