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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:40 pm

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In post 1032, NDMath wrote:
In post 1009, Dunnstral wrote:
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Blue names are people who I have given me at least some reason to believe that they're not aligned with Elsa.

I am assuming 2 scum on each team, right now, but this doesn't get shaked up too hard even if there are 3.

That means that if I didn't false-clear anybody, Elsa's partner should be within this pool of 4:
[Gamma Emerald, Arcangel9, Andresvmp, iecerint]

Additionally, there's nothing preventing names on this list from being mafia of the opposite alignment. Meaning, mechanically, I think it makes the most sense to look here first.
My interpretation is that Andres and Arc are on the list because of their lack of presence and therefore you think the/a partner is probably within {Gamma, iecerint}. Essentially half of iecerint's iso is focusing on and mostly defending elsa, I would definitely look there before gamma.
I'd need to spend some time looking at each individual players interactions with ej before I can confidently agree with your association pool, but I am leaning that way.
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:41 pm

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why do you think your list is the be-all-end-all for werewolf hunting?
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 1096, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1092, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1052, Dunnstral wrote:Based on kills, the mafia team were aiming at town for sure (and not elsa's partner)
Yo Dunn, can you explain this? How are you so sure that the mafia team were aiming at town for sure?
I have my own problem with this. AD was obvtown for sure, but NDMath, not so much. So really it's just an expansion/specification of what you said but it should still be brought up. Perhaps NDMath was the kill of Dunn's team?
They were both pretty obviously not aligned with Elsa; I've went over this.

The mafia team would have had to have been looking for Elsa's partner. Instead they shot at someone who clearly wasn't, ergo they were aiming at town
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:41 pm

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Okay, which kill was made by the mafia team?
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 1101, Gamma Emerald wrote:why do you think your list is the be-all-end-all for werewolf hunting?
Who do you think elsa's partners could be?
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:42 pm

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In post 1103, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Okay, which kill was made by the mafia team?
That is irrelevant, as both kills would mean they were aiming at town.

I also don't know that
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:43 pm

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In post 1100, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1032, NDMath wrote:
In post 1009, Dunnstral wrote:
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Blue names are people who I have given me at least some reason to believe that they're not aligned with Elsa.

I am assuming 2 scum on each team, right now, but this doesn't get shaked up too hard even if there are 3.

That means that if I didn't false-clear anybody, Elsa's partner should be within this pool of 4:
[Gamma Emerald, Arcangel9, Andresvmp, iecerint]

Additionally, there's nothing preventing names on this list from being mafia of the opposite alignment. Meaning, mechanically, I think it makes the most sense to look here first.
My interpretation is that Andres and Arc are on the list because of their lack of presence and therefore you think the/a partner is probably within {Gamma, iecerint}. Essentially half of iecerint's iso is focusing on and mostly defending elsa, I would definitely look there before gamma.
I'd need to spend some time looking at each individual players interactions with ej before I can confidently agree with your association pool, but I am leaning that way.
pretty sure nd math didn't tr you
he suspected iecerint more, which I will admit has been a reason I have used before to explain away a NK that looked bad for me
but the real reason I called that out was because you were specifically analyzing the
ActionDan
kill. So nice try moving the goalposts bub.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:47 pm

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In post 1102, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1096, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1092, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1052, Dunnstral wrote:Based on kills, the mafia team were aiming at town for sure (and not elsa's partner)
Yo Dunn, can you explain this? How are you so sure that the mafia team were aiming at town for sure?
I have my own problem with this. AD was obvtown for sure, but NDMath, not so much. So really it's just an expansion/specification of what you said but it should still be brought up. Perhaps NDMath was the kill of Dunn's team?
They were both pretty obviously not aligned with Elsa; I've went over this.

The mafia team would have had to have been looking for Elsa's partner. Instead they shot at someone who clearly wasn't, ergo they were aiming at town
This only specifies that the mafia team weren't aiming for the other team
what about the werewolves?
In post 1104, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1101, Gamma Emerald wrote:why do you think your list is the be-all-end-all for werewolf hunting?
Who do you think elsa's partners could be?
I'm not sure but I think your PoE feels too narrow, from a skim I had already gotten a sense that some of your reasons for removing players were weak
and why do you say partners? didn't you say you don't think this is a 6 scum game?
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:48 pm

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In post 1107, Gamma Emerald wrote:This only specifies that the mafia team weren't aiming for the other team
what about the werewolves?
I'm obviously not a werewolf so does it matter?
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:48 pm

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In post 1105, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1103, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Okay, which kill was made by the mafia team?
That is irrelevant, as both kills would mean they were aiming at town.

I also don't know that
Again you miss the key point that your logic only accounts for the mafia team's kill. Your logic is like Swiss cheese, it's so full of holes!
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:49 pm

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Also I was responding to:
How are you so sure that the
mafia team
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:49 pm

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In post 1108, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1107, Gamma Emerald wrote:This only specifies that the mafia team weren't aiming for the other team
what about the werewolves?
I'm obviously not a werewolf so does it matter?
According to you, sure you're not a werewolf
I haven't investigated that matter yet, so I can't speak with the same confidence.
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:53 pm

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In post 1106, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1100, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1032, NDMath wrote:
In post 1009, Dunnstral wrote:
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Blue names are people who I have given me at least some reason to believe that they're not aligned with Elsa.

I am assuming 2 scum on each team, right now, but this doesn't get shaked up too hard even if there are 3.

That means that if I didn't false-clear anybody, Elsa's partner should be within this pool of 4:
[Gamma Emerald, Arcangel9, Andresvmp, iecerint]

Additionally, there's nothing preventing names on this list from being mafia of the opposite alignment. Meaning, mechanically, I think it makes the most sense to look here first.
My interpretation is that Andres and Arc are on the list because of their lack of presence and therefore you think the/a partner is probably within {Gamma, iecerint}. Essentially half of iecerint's iso is focusing on and mostly defending elsa, I would definitely look there before gamma.
I'd need to spend some time looking at each individual players interactions with ej before I can confidently agree with your association pool, but I am leaning that way.
pretty sure nd math didn't tr you
he suspected iecerint more, which I will admit has been a reason I have used before to explain away a NK that looked bad for me
but the real reason I called that out was because you were specifically analyzing the
ActionDan
kill. So nice try moving the goalposts bub.
no you misunderstand I said Nero becuse of Dan and I was sue of gamma to becuse the towny who flagged her was also dead I didn't say Dan flagged you I pointed ndmath who did flag you.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:59 pm

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then you need to write you posts out more clearly
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:03 pm

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In post 1094, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1025, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1020, ActionDan wrote:I'd argue nero has a chance to be a partner
b/c I didn't vote Elsa yet? b/c im pushing cyrus?
I'm going with Nero as scum last person action Dan spoke of before they died I'm also thinking gamma since they were flaged as well and that towny is also dead.
See where did I say Dan flaged you here
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:07 pm

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VOTE: gamma I will place this here. And let others decicd .
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:19 pm

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Everybody please be considerate to this poor monkey who is confined to phone posting for now. I had to roll back twice do far to verify AD was indeed the Even Night Jailer and not the Cop. Please be careful with the confusion/misinformation for the next 48 hours

@Dunn: if it's 2 scums per then it makes sense both sides would be hunting down town early game. Like, why would mafia even want the remaining wolf out so early when they can make use of the extra kill to clip down the town?

@Gamma: I confess to being stupid and having missed your crumb totally. I probably should've thought about it more, but your outburst at me didn't help and then you mentioned dying at night and I thought you were crumbing a Weak modifier

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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:25 pm

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In post 1087, Dunnstral wrote:So since you were allegedly roleblocked, shouldn't you be going after almost50?
Not exactly the question I had in mind, but it'll do. Mine would have been: why didn't Gamma target me rather than Kitty?

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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:31 pm

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In post 1093, humaneatingmonkey wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral

Huh I think that's a slip
Your comprehension is a disgrace to all simian :facepalm:

Dunn literally posted 4 names that he thought contained the remaining wolf. None of them was shot, so mafia didn't try to hunt down the other wolf from his PoV.

No banana boat for you today. Bad monkey.

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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:34 pm

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VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:35 pm

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In post 1064, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay then.
I'm a 1-shot gunsmith. I crumbed in my opening post
In post 12, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Almost50
Prepare to get greatest plan’ed

Also, my favorite Pokémon Rangers game is Guardian Signs jsyk
Pokemon Rangers = power role, guardian signs = gunsmith
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I targeted KittyTacky last night and got no result. My current guess is that one of the scumteams has a roleblocker that targeted me.
Why would town have a cop and a gunsmith?
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:38 pm

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I agree with Gamma that Dunn's posting looks like exclusively looking for one team over the other.

While a 1x GS is easyible fakeable, his shot would bu refunded if he was blocked thus Iec and HEM look terrible for voting him.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:41 pm

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In post 1096, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1092, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1052, Dunnstral wrote:Based on kills, the mafia team were aiming at town for sure (and not elsa's partner)
Yo Dunn, can you explain this? How are you so sure that the mafia team were aiming at town for sure?
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I have my own problem with this. AD was obvtown for sure, but NDMath, not so much. So really it's just an expansion/specification of what you said but it should still be brought up. Perhaps NDMath was the kill of Dunn's team?
Why this weird appearance: it's much easier that to delete and retype after I realized I typed it in the middle of the quote. Like be grateful I can do quotes on mobile now. :lol:

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In post 1121, Nero Cain wrote:While a 1x GS is easyible fakeable, his shot would bu refunded if he was blocked thus Iec and HEM look terrible for voting him.
One shots are almost never refunded. Why do you think it would be? Gamma claimed 1 shot sooo he's out and him being out is NAI.

If the mod intended for things to be refundable, he uses the term 1 use.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:44 pm

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In post 1120, Titus wrote:Why would town have a cop and a gunsmith?
it adds up to 3 shots. While Gamma could fake and maybe him outting himself when he didn't need to maybe points it being fake I don't feel like 2x cop and 1x GS is something so far fetched
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