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[osuka]

you think you can get a pagetop?

votecount

day 2, vc 3

• Seanzie
  (3): taco hemingway
  (1068)
  , shrek
  (1377)
  , ssbm_kyouko
  (1395)
  
  
  Taco Hemingway
  (2): humaneatingmonkey
  (1235)
  , seanzie
  (1242)
  
  
  T3
  (0):
  
  ssbm_Kyouko
  (0):
  
  Titus
  (0):
  
  Dwlee99
  (0):
  
  Shrek
  (0):
  
  LuciferMorningStar
  (0):
  
  Zyla
  (0):
  
  ManateeDude
  (0):
  
  humaneatingmonkey
  (0):
  
  
  Not voting
  (6): t3
  (1202)
  , Titus, dwlee99
  (1199)
  , LuciferMorningStar, Zyla, ManateeDude

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to execute.

the day will end in (expired on 2021-07-11 01:52:00).

[ssbm_Kyouko]

you think you can get a pagetop?

I could have prevented this

[Seanzie]

Seanzie has had bad progressions imo. Taco has been trying to solve the game fmpov

I've read his ISO and all I've seen were pointless questions, a defensive tone, and abrasive conversational style. Point out the posts that indicates game solving.

Actually y'know before I go do this how did you read their ISO so fast?

Lol Seanzie coming out after all this to claim VT
HURT: Seanzie

I didn't expect people to actually ask me to claim in that situation since that sort of thing happens a lot less on the sites I'm more familiar with. At my home site, hammers are rare, usually the TK is an EoD plurality vote, so people don't ask others to claim very often.

I was in your last game on site and you claimed at E-1.

Yes, if I am about to die, I will almost always claim. Also, your site newbie guide mentions that you have the E-1 thing, where at E-1, it is polite for you to stop and ask for a claim before hammering, so it was clear a claim in that moment would be expected.

[Shrek]

How y'all think it is a good idea for me to claim here is beyond me, but the thread seems stuck on it, so I will. I'm VT.

yeah no. this basically confirms seanzie is scum. lynch all liars.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Seanzie

[Seanzie]

Since I already see where this is headed:

Legacy:

Zyla needs to flip asap.

Taco almost assuredly scum. If town, super anti-town.

Taco and Shrek have a ton of teammate equity. Shrek is backing Taco's fakeclaim, now, so unless another cop steps up to validate Shrek's story, they are scum together. I spotted it early, Shrek has been someone that is NOT getting the attention they deserve, If Zyla and Taco are both red, Shrek should be the next yeet.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think taco shouldn't claim here though, as there is real reason to think the guilty is fake here for a lot of people. Means if he really is PR then scum may not kill him of they think he is faking. If he claims that goes out the window

This doesn't make sense. We will instantly know if Taco is faking if Seanzie flips town. Scum instantly knows right now if Taco is faking. Why would town still think he's fake if the guilty was legitimate? Why would scum still think he's fake if the guilty is legitimate?

If the claim is legitimate and Seanzie is scum, we move ELo to Day 4 and it would be dangerous to keep a confirmed cop past N2.
If the claim is illegitimate, then Taco is either town who's lying and

The proper move is to assure us that the claim is 100% beyond a reasonable doubt, so we don't go into a situation where Taco has a false guilty and he's town.

[Shrek]

taco also shouldnt claim here but for different reasons that may become evident later

[T3]

Calling:
T3
ssbm_Kyouko
Titus

Let's talk about Taco and Seanzie.

I was asleep.

I'm catching up.

[T3]

Okay buddy 13 year old

don't generalize us children

[T3]

VOTE: Seanzie
Scum has no reason to fakeclaim cop. There's also that Shrek claims to be an Informed pr who knows there'sa Cop so it's probably not a drunk gambit.

[Dwlee99]

That's E-1, I want this wagon but don't want day to end.

[Shrek]

t3 and dwlee what are your current town reads and null reads and scum reads

[Shrek]

i think if seanzie flips scum then taco is locktown for sure, but it's not too indicative of zyla's alignment. if he flips town then both taco and zyla are scum

[Shrek]

mind you i still am completely convinced that he will flip scum here

[Dwlee99]

Town: T3, ssbm_Kyouko, Shrek, Lucifer (assuming vig claim holds up), Taco

Townlean: Titus

Null: Galaxis (now HEM)

Scum solve: Seanzie, Zyla, Tris (now Manatee)

[Dwlee99]

If Seanzie flips town then my reads just flip taco and Seanzie

[T3]

Locktown: Shrek, Lucifer
Town: Dwlee, Taco (depends on the Seanzie flip)
Lean town: Kyo
Null: Titus
Null scum: humaneatingmonkey
Lean scum: Zyla
Scum: tris
Basically outed scum: Seanzie

[T3]

That's E-1, I want this wagon but don't want day to end.

Seanzie is confirmed mafia at this point, and if not then Taco has to be.

[Dwlee99]

I at least want everyone to check in so someone could counterclaim if need be. I also want everyone's takes on it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

This type of assumption is why I want Taco to full claim.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Since Seanzie is a VT, there's probably no way a cop might have a false guilty on him.

[humaneatingmonkey]

If Seanzie is town, we lost. There's no way we wouldn't be eliminating Taco tomorrow.

[Taco Hemingway]

No one hammer. Hammerinh here early is a scumclaim

[Dwlee99]

If Seanzie is town, we lost. There's no way we wouldn't be eliminating Taco tomorrow.

Why would that mean we lose? Taco is certainly evil in that scenario.