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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:31 am

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In post 933, Seanzie wrote:NK analysis is one of the most dubious ways to form reads. When used in tandem with other things, it can be vaguely helpful, but it is also easily exploitable by the wolves. I have a hard time thinking this is convincing to you. (Color redacted)
Can you avoid this color in the future? The dark blue is hard to read.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:32 am

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In post 973, Seanzie wrote:
In post 967, Taco Hemingway wrote:
In post 961, Seanzie wrote:It seems pretty likely that taco killed Salsabil and is now trying to spin the NK into something it isn't. NK analysis is EXTREMELY unreliable, ESPECIALLY when all scum are alive, since the kill is a combination effort from 3 people, all with different ideas, and NK's tend to be full of WIFOM, but Taco isn't thinking critically about this at all, and is just pushing a false narrative without reconsidering.
This is false. You don't know how I think. I always take into consideration who was NKed and why.


I already pointed out a major reason: they want the Zyla wagon to happen again.

Who didn't scumread Zyla that would likely not be on that wagon? - Salsa

Natural progression.

Everytime I personally get nightkilled, I either have too many strong townreads that are correct, and/or I am vocally correct about 1-2 scum OR I am too towny.

Like idk maybe I'm thinking too deep into this but this feels like the obvious answer based on gamestate vibe immediately starting this dayphase.
or the NK could have been done for 100 other reasons. If you're town, worldbuilding around a single precarious piece of information like this is bad play, and you literally subject yourself to WIFOM this way. Wolves don't always make level 0 choices.

Either way, the way in which you're pushing this one specific narrative involving the NK still makes me think it is likely you were part of the decision to NK Salsabil and are trying to use that kill to save your wolfmate Zyla, whom you seem to be convinced is town but haven't been able to give any good reasons for your thoughts.
damn guess then I am doing "bad play".
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:33 am

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not like I usually win a lot of my towngames via NKA yup. not like the vast majority of the time town loses is because they fail to pay attention to who dies.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:34 am

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I like both Taco and Lucifer for town atm along with Sasibil TRs.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:34 am

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VOTE: Tris
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:36 am

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In post 975, Titus wrote:
In post 933, Seanzie wrote:NK analysis is one of the most dubious ways to form reads. When used in tandem with other things, it can be vaguely helpful, but it is also easily exploitable by the wolves. I have a hard time thinking this is convincing to you. (Color redacted)
Can you avoid this color in the future? The dark blue is hard to read.
I will try to keep that in mind. I usually just pick a random color, so sorry if I use it again by accident.
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:38 am

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In post 976, Taco Hemingway wrote:
In post 973, Seanzie wrote:
In post 967, Taco Hemingway wrote:
In post 961, Seanzie wrote:It seems pretty likely that taco killed Salsabil and is now trying to spin the NK into something it isn't. NK analysis is EXTREMELY unreliable, ESPECIALLY when all scum are alive, since the kill is a combination effort from 3 people, all with different ideas, and NK's tend to be full of WIFOM, but Taco isn't thinking critically about this at all, and is just pushing a false narrative without reconsidering.
This is false. You don't know how I think. I always take into consideration who was NKed and why.


I already pointed out a major reason: they want the Zyla wagon to happen again.

Who didn't scumread Zyla that would likely not be on that wagon? - Salsa

Natural progression.

Everytime I personally get nightkilled, I either have too many strong townreads that are correct, and/or I am vocally correct about 1-2 scum OR I am too towny.

Like idk maybe I'm thinking too deep into this but this feels like the obvious answer based on gamestate vibe immediately starting this dayphase.
or the NK could have been done for 100 other reasons. If you're town, worldbuilding around a single precarious piece of information like this is bad play, and you literally subject yourself to WIFOM this way. Wolves don't always make level 0 choices.

Either way, the way in which you're pushing this one specific narrative involving the NK still makes me think it is likely you were part of the decision to NK Salsabil and are trying to use that kill to save your wolfmate Zyla, whom you seem to be convinced is town but haven't been able to give any good reasons for your thoughts.
damn guess then I am doing "bad play".
Or you're just a wolf.
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:38 am

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Honesty NKA is usualy bad. I recently finished a scumgame where we NKed Zyla N1 because we thought she softed pr. She was scumread by most of the players. She flipped VT.
Everyone then ran around wondering why the heck Zyla was nked eventualy leading to a mislim and the Friendly Neighbor outing. What Seanzie is saying makes sense.
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:39 am

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In post 982, T3 wrote:Honesty NKA is usualy bad. I recently finished a scumgame where we NKed Zyla N1 because we thought she softed pr. She was scumread by most of the players. She flipped VT.
Everyone then ran around wondering why the heck Zyla was nked eventualy leading to a mislim and the Friendly Neighbor outing. What Seanzie is saying makes sense.
About nka being bad.
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:40 am

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In post 978, Titus wrote:I like both Taco and Lucifer for town atm along with Sasibil TRs.
This likely means I need to figure out how to make more time.
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:42 am

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I agree with Tacos read on tris but I think I agree with Seanzie's point about Taco pushing thr nka narrative.

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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:46 am

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In post 984, Titus wrote:
In post 978, Titus wrote:I like both Taco and Lucifer for town atm along with Sasibil TRs.
This likely means I need to figure out how to make more time.
What do you mean by this?
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:48 am

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In post 982, T3 wrote:Honesty NKA is usualy bad. I recently finished a scumgame where we NKed Zyla N1 because we thought she softed pr. She was scumread by most of the players. She flipped VT.
Everyone then ran around wondering why the heck Zyla was nked eventualy leading to a mislim and the Friendly Neighbor outing. What Seanzie is saying makes sense.
that doesn't mean we should never use it.
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:48 am

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I need one of those boards like you see in the movies with pictures and string connecting things. :lol:
The buddy tells in this game have become wack, I'm lost.
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:50 am

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In post 986, Seanzie wrote:
In post 984, Titus wrote:
In post 978, Titus wrote:I like both Taco and Lucifer for town atm along with Sasibil TRs.
This likely means I need to figure out how to make more time.
What do you mean by this?
It means I need to be more vocal to protect my TRs and sort scum.
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:54 am

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In post 989, Titus wrote:
In post 986, Seanzie wrote:
In post 984, Titus wrote:
In post 978, Titus wrote:I like both Taco and Lucifer for town atm along with Sasibil TRs.
This likely means I need to figure out how to make more time.
What do you mean by this?
It means I need to be more vocal to protect my TRs and sort scum.
What are your thoughts on Zyla right now?
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:02 am

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uuhhhhhh

VOTE: Seanzie
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 990, Seanzie wrote:
In post 989, Titus wrote:
In post 986, Seanzie wrote:
In post 984, Titus wrote:
In post 978, Titus wrote:I like both Taco and Lucifer for town atm along with Sasibil TRs.
This likely means I need to figure out how to make more time.
What do you mean by this?
It means I need to be more vocal to protect my TRs and sort scum.
What are your thoughts on Zyla right now?
Too easy but I shouldn't be opposed on that basis alone.
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:03 am

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In post 991, Shrek wrote:uuhhhhhh

VOTE: Seanzie
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:09 am

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because i think that he's gotten progressively more scummy as the first day went on (plus this day as well). i think him trying to frame my hammer bait was a scum tactic for sure and him trying to gain towncred by constructing his own narrative to contrast against taco's is also scummy. i would go through his whole iso thing but im lazy.

anywayyy order of my scum to not scum

town:
t3
dwlee
taco
titus

null:
galaxis
lucifer (until replaced)
tris

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zyla
kyoko
seanzie
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:09 am

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nvm i meant not scum to scum fuck lol
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:11 am

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We all keep dancing around zyla
VOTE: ZylaVOTE:
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I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:12 am

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Yeesh
VOTE: Zyla
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:15 am

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actually im changing my mind again i wanna press galaxis for some sort of meaningful contribution

VOTE: galaxis
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:24 am

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In post 994, Shrek wrote:because i think that he's gotten progressively more scummy as the first day went on (plus this day as well). i think him trying to frame my hammer bait was a scum tactic for sure and him trying to gain towncred by constructing his own narrative to contrast against taco's is also scummy. i would go through his whole iso thing but im lazy.

anywayyy order of my scum to not scum

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t3
dwlee
taco
titus

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galaxis
lucifer (until replaced)
tris

scum:
zyla
kyoko
seanzie
If you don't see why your Pav vote was sus af, idk what to tell you dude.

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