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[Taco Hemingway]

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ok i suggest you read this game, I replace in and claim vig here.

[Dwlee99]

And also fmpov it looks like you counterwagoned when I caught scum. At the end of the day you were saying shoot zyla if pav flips scum so what happened to that?

[T3]

trust me when I say this vig claim is BS - I did this same gambit.

why claim vig there as town who just quickhammered?

Anti town != scum.

[Taco Hemingway]

A site newb claiming vig is way out of his scumrange. Lucifer is town.

i disagree. It came after a quickhammer, a moment I had called out -> then they feel pressured to claim.

It's a bit of a damning situation where someone knows they messed up and did something that they wouldn't have as town and then quickly try to look towny for whatever reason.

[Taco Hemingway]

And also fmpov it looks like you counterwagoned when I caught scum. At the end of the day you were saying shoot zyla if pav flips scum so what happened to that?

the day got quickhammered and I reevalled off that

[Taco Hemingway]

and the choice of NK solidifies my view there.

[Seanzie]

VOTE: Taco Heningway

[Taco Hemingway]

trust me when I say this vig claim is BS - I did this same gambit.

why claim vig there as town who just quickhammered?

Anti town != scum.

the quickhammer however is something I can't forgive.

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Taco Heningway

should have nightkilled me last night xoxo

[T3]

There are a number of reasons
Drunk.
Bored.
Bad player.

[Taco Hemingway]

There are a number of reasons
Drunk.
Bored.
Bad player.

who do u think is scum here then?

[Seanzie]

It seems pretty likely that taco killed Salsabil and is now trying to spin the NK into something it isn't. NK analysis is EXTREMELY unreliable, ESPECIALLY when all scum are alive, since the kill is a combination effort from 3 people, all with different ideas, and NK's tend to be full of WIFOM, but Taco isn't thinking critically about this at all, and is just pushing a false narrative without reconsidering.

[Taco Hemingway]

I'll let lucifier resolve if you insist you see them as town - but I still suggest not letting that slot live if it doesn't improve in a way that shows it town in mylo/lylo because I am tired of losing town games where we let the quickhammerer/openwolf live too long

[Dwlee99]

It's at least one of seanzie and taco and also Zyla

[T3]

There are a number of reasons
Drunk.
Bored.
Bad player.

who do u think is scum here then?

Honestly I'm not sure.

[Seanzie]

It's at least one of seanzie and taco and also Zyla

Taco and Zyla I dig. Probably Zyla is the right vote today, but Taco is outing in thread right now, so I'm going to continue pushing there to see if they give up their third.

[T3]

Hm. From rereading tris's ISO her posts actually look similar to the tic tac toe game where she was scum. She makes some longer posts but most of them are fillery.

[Taco Hemingway]

It seems pretty likely that taco killed Salsabil and is now trying to spin the NK into something it isn't. NK analysis is EXTREMELY unreliable, ESPECIALLY when all scum are alive, since the kill is a combination effort from 3 people, all with different ideas, and NK's tend to be full of WIFOM, but Taco isn't thinking critically about this at all, and is just pushing a false narrative without reconsidering.

This is false. You don't know how I think. I always take into consideration who was NKed and why.


I already pointed out a major reason: they want the Zyla wagon to happen again.

Who didn't scumread Zyla that would likely not be on that wagon? - Salsa

Natural progression.

Everytime I personally get nightkilled, I either have too many strong townreads that are correct, and/or I am vocally correct about 1-2 scum OR I am too towny.

Like idk maybe I'm thinking too deep into this but this feels like the obvious answer based on gamestate vibe immediately starting this dayphase.

[Taco Hemingway]

Hm. From rereading tris's ISO her posts actually look similar to the tic tac toe game where she was scum. She makes some longer posts but most of them are fillery.

that would track with how I'm feeling about her this game where I sorta just don't notice her at all. in a previous normal where we were both town I was able to find her town and notice but it was because i also townread the predecessor because she subbed in.

also Salsa had her in her scumreads.

[Taco Hemingway]

It's at least one of seanzie and taco and also Zyla

Taco and Zyla I dig. Probably Zyla is the right vote today, but Taco is outing in thread right now, so I'm going to continue pushing there to see if they give up their third.

What am I outting?

[Dwlee99]

Tris also higher than rand scum

[Titus]

Updated Readlist

Town:

ssbm_Kyouko

Titus

Dwlee99

Seanzie

Scum:

T3

Sherk

or

Taco

tris

Pavowski

Rests are null.

So uh this readlist at the end would definitely implicate me but I'm town.
Shrek is also very obvious town.
Pavowski flipped town.
That leaves tris. I metadived tris earlier and came to the conclusion tris is town but Salsa, with my evidence, came to the opposite conclusion so I'm not sure.

The readslist could have got her killed because of her townreads rather than her scumreads.

[T3]

Taco Zyla and Lucifer Zyla had associative tells but Lucifer is very likely town unless he's an alt and Taco is pushing Lucifer so I'm not sure.

[Seanzie]

It seems pretty likely that taco killed Salsabil and is now trying to spin the NK into something it isn't. NK analysis is EXTREMELY unreliable, ESPECIALLY when all scum are alive, since the kill is a combination effort from 3 people, all with different ideas, and NK's tend to be full of WIFOM, but Taco isn't thinking critically about this at all, and is just pushing a false narrative without reconsidering.

This is false. You don't know how I think. I always take into consideration who was NKed and why.


I already pointed out a major reason: they want the Zyla wagon to happen again.

Who didn't scumread Zyla that would likely not be on that wagon? - Salsa

Natural progression.

Everytime I personally get nightkilled, I either have too many strong townreads that are correct, and/or I am vocally correct about 1-2 scum OR I am too towny.

Like idk maybe I'm thinking too deep into this but this feels like the obvious answer based on gamestate vibe immediately starting this dayphase.

or the NK could have been done for 100 other reasons. If you're town, worldbuilding around a single precarious piece of information like this is bad play, and you literally subject yourself to WIFOM this way. Wolves don't always make level 0 choices.

Either way, the way in which you're pushing this one specific narrative involving the NK still makes me think it is likely you were part of the decision to NK Salsabil and are trying to use that kill to save your wolfmate Zyla, whom you seem to be convinced is town but haven't been able to give any good reasons for your thoughts.

[Seanzie]

It's at least one of seanzie and taco and also Zyla

Taco and Zyla I dig. Probably Zyla is the right vote today, but Taco is outing in thread right now, so I'm going to continue pushing there to see if they give up their third.

What am I outting?

Yourself as a wolf.