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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:40 am

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0.o Jesus christ....
I go away for a few days, and suddenly we're at Day 5, with 77 pages, and most worrying of all- KoC and Crazy are not dead yet. -.-

I'll try and get up to speed now.

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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:51 am

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neko2086 wrote:Charter is being even more defensive, yes, and offering terrible appeals to emotion, yes, but BM/CWR are pretty much confirmed scum and should be priority lynch in my eyes. I've yet to see any good reason offered as to why a townie replacement would need to reread before paraphrasing daytalk. Also, I've yet to see anyone even disagree that they're scum!!!

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What? when did i reread before paraphrasing daytalk? As far as i can recall, i've done neither to this point. :P
And why would nobody disagreeing that somebody is scum be a point in favour of them being scum? In a game like this, opportunism is a necessary for the scum to win.
You then go on to attack my top suspect, claiming at the same time that he is likely town? wtf?

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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:52 am

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sekinj wrote:I think we shoudl vote the scummiest each day. I don't think "clearing the thread" is a noble enough cause that it can bump one pair up over another that is scummier. We can lynch the scummiest today (IMO BM), and then if charter is still the scummiest tomorrow, we can lynch him tomorrow. But I don't think we shoudl lynch a less scummy person today just because they are annoying or whatever.

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Again, would somebody deign to explain to me why i'm being wagonned here?

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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:01 am

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on the assumption that our daytalk hasnt been posted yet, i just requested a link to it from the mod.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:52 am

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The more you go on talking instead of posting your DT, the more I want to lynch you.
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:43 am

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You mean you don't already want to lynch him as much as you possibly could...?

Also, I'm really not sure I'll believe that the mod forgot to send you a QT link BM.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:47 am

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BM, it's your scumpartner that refused to post daytalk until he reread the thread. He came under fire for it and hasn't posted since. So, daytalk now, please.


For clarification: Considering D1 circumstances, Crazy is most likely town. It seems, though, that the Crazy/KoC lover team is using that to their advantage and posting lots of crap.
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:03 am

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Cephrir wrote:You mean you don't already want to lynch him as much as you possibly could...?
I'm still somewhat interested in seeing their daytalk and some sort of defense, the continued lack of both makes the small chance for them to be townies smaller and smaller in my mind.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:08 am

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I suppose it was about time I got a new partner. But I'll never forget those nights I had with darla...

In other news we definately need everybody's day talk. The only way the system works is if everybody gets the same treatment.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:03 am

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New suspicion: neko and sekinj. It's relatively minor, though.

neko/sekinj daytalk wrote:neko2086 4 08-04-2008 09:47 PM ET (US) no preference on the claiming, we’ll figure out the scum either way. Do you know what Adel’s talking about?

sekinj 5 08-05-2008 04:17 PM ET (US) no, some players are saying they know and others say they don’t know.
sekinj wrote:
sekinj wrote:
Crazy wrote:Charter just missed all my points, but oh well, because I just saw what Adel said:
Adel wrote:because it would invalidate the secret scumtell I have that I won't announce until we have three days on the books without a lover-pair massclaim.
I believe I know what she's talking about. I don't believe that claiming would completely invalidate it, but it certainly wouldn't help...

I hope the other townies in this game will pick up on what he's saying and not reveal this secret scumtell.

(If any of you inquire about this, I will assume you are scum.)
too bad you put the warning at the bottom...
sekinj wrote:
OpposedForce wrote:Also I'm not sure about Adel's scumtell thing. I don't understand it generally so elaboration would be helpful to why people would change their minds of a early lover mass claim.
Not a good move...
Posts by sekinj suggest that he knew what the scum-tell was. Daytalk contradicts that.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:36 pm

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This is extraordinary: I actually think that BM is town.

I can't say the same about RRabbit though.
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:10 pm

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Why would you think BM is town here?
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:44 pm

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Crazy wrote:New suspicion: neko and sekinj. It's relatively minor, though.

neko/sekinj daytalk wrote:neko2086 4 08-04-2008 09:47 PM ET (US) no preference on the claiming, we’ll figure out the scum either way. Do you know what Adel’s talking about?

sekinj 5 08-05-2008 04:17 PM ET (US) no, some players are saying they know and others say they don’t know.
sekinj wrote:
sekinj wrote:
Crazy wrote:Charter just missed all my points, but oh well, because I just saw what Adel said:
Adel wrote:because it would invalidate the secret scumtell I have that I won't announce until we have three days on the books without a lover-pair massclaim.
I believe I know what she's talking about. I don't believe that claiming would completely invalidate it, but it certainly wouldn't help...

I hope the other townies in this game will pick up on what he's saying and not reveal this secret scumtell.

(If any of you inquire about this, I will assume you are scum.)
too bad you put the warning at the bottom...
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OpposedForce wrote:Also I'm not sure about Adel's scumtell thing. I don't understand it generally so elaboration would be helpful to why people would change their minds of a early lover mass claim.
Not a good move...
Posts by sekinj suggest that he knew what the scum-tell was. Daytalk contradicts that.
I didn't know what it was, but no, I wasn't completely up front about that in thread. I thought it was better to see how it all developed. I just thought it was dumb for him to say someone was auto scum if they inquired.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:46 pm

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EBWOP:
Crazy wrote:New suspicion: neko and sekinj. It's relatively minor, though.

neko/sekinj daytalk wrote:neko2086 4 08-04-2008 09:47 PM ET (US) no preference on the claiming, we’ll figure out the scum either way. Do you know what Adel’s talking about?

sekinj 5 08-05-2008 04:17 PM ET (US) no, some players are saying they know and others say they don’t know.
sekinj wrote:
sekinj wrote:
Crazy wrote:Charter just missed all my points, but oh well, because I just saw what Adel said:
Adel wrote:because it would invalidate the secret scumtell I have that I won't announce until we have three days on the books without a lover-pair massclaim.
I believe I know what she's talking about. I don't believe that claiming would completely invalidate it, but it certainly wouldn't help...

I hope the other townies in this game will pick up on what he's saying and not reveal this secret scumtell.

(If any of you inquire about this, I will assume you are scum.)
too bad you put the warning at the bottom...
sekinj wrote:
OpposedForce wrote:Also I'm not sure about Adel's scumtell thing. I don't understand it generally so elaboration would be helpful to why people would change their minds of a early lover mass claim.
Not a good move...
Posts by sekinj suggest that he knew what the scum-tell was. Daytalk contradicts that.
I didn't know what it was, but no, I wasn't completely up front about that in thread. I thought it was better to see how it all developed. I just thought it was dumb for him to say someone was auto scum if they inquired.
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:48 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:This is extraordinary: I actually think that BM is town.

I can't say the same about RRabbit though.
I agree wholeheartedly. I can't see any good reason to lynch BM as of yet.
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:29 am

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How about both him and CWR refusing to paraphrase daytalk?
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:05 am

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armlx wrote:Why would you think BM is town here?
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:20 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
armlx wrote:Why would you think BM is town here?
Battle Mage is very huggable in this game.
I can't argue with that logic.
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:05 am

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Raging Rabbit wrote:How about both him and CWR refusing to paraphrase daytalk?
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:45 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
armlx wrote:Why would you think BM is town here?
Battle Mage is very huggable in this game.
Proper logic plz. Kthxbai.
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:30 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
sekinj wrote:I think we shoudl vote the scummiest each day. I don't think "clearing the thread" is a noble enough cause that it can bump one pair up over another that is scummier. We can lynch the scummiest today (IMO BM), and then if charter is still the scummiest tomorrow, we can lynch him tomorrow. But I don't think we shoudl lynch a less scummy person today just because they are annoying or whatever.

vote: BM
Again, would somebody deign to explain to me why i'm being wagonned here?

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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:44 am

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sekinj wrote:I didn't know what it was, but no, I wasn't completely up front about that in thread. I thought it was better to see how it all developed. I just thought it was dumb for him to say someone was auto scum if they inquired.
I thought that "Not a good move" thing was directed at OF. And I'm wondering how you felt you could adequately discern whether OF inquiring about the tell was a good move or not, if you didn't know what it was yourself?
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:25 pm

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Crazy wrote:
sekinj wrote:I didn't know what it was, but no, I wasn't completely up front about that in thread. I thought it was better to see how it all developed. I just thought it was dumb for him to say someone was auto scum if they inquired.
I thought that "Not a good move" thing was directed at OF. And I'm wondering how you felt you could adequately discern whether OF inquiring about the tell was a good move or not, if you didn't know what it was yourself?
It was directed at OF, but it was sarcastic. as in "not a good move according to adel the master of scum telling" It didn't seem like Adel would be able to automatically know scum or not no matter what his tell was.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:35 pm

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I'm surprised you never actually commented on this, sekinj, until after the bandwagon on me had begun. If you truly didn't like Adel's assertion, why didn't you just say so then?
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:01 pm

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Crazy wrote:I'm surprised you never actually commented on this, sekinj, until after the bandwagon on me had begun. If you truly didn't like Adel's assertion, why didn't you just say so then?
I didn't dis-believe that adel had a scum-tell. I thought

a) it was dumb to put the warning. if his comment was supposed to be a trap for scum, that spoiled it

b) whatever it was it couldn't be as clear cut as he thought it was since neither me nor neko knew what it was.

Therefore since his trap didn't work, and i didn't know what the tell was, I had no idea what he was trying to accomplish with it. So, I just waited to see what he was going to do with it.

I didn't comment on it later because I thinkt he whole tell thing has been over-discussed as it is.
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