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[Taco Hemingway]

My thought processes are too complex for you to try to pretend they're fake. The real fakeness is you trying to pretend you're genuine in your accusations.
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Nah, they're fake. If you were actually town and had good thoughts, you wouldn't need idle threats to try to get wagons to move the way you want them to.

Weird because last time you saw town me i did just that (;

No you didn't, you were just rude.

You're reducing the nuances of my play to just "rude".

[Seanzie]

My thought processes are too complex for you to try to pretend they're fake. The real fakeness is you trying to pretend you're genuine in your accusations.
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Nah, they're fake. If you were actually town and had good thoughts, you wouldn't need idle threats to try to get wagons to move the way you want them to.

Weird because last time you saw town me i did just that (;

No you didn't, you were just rude.

You're reducing the nuances of my play to just "rude".

You didn't use threats the way you are here. Here your threats have a clear agenda, and all your "If you do X, you are outed scum" or "If you do X, I will push you tomorrow", that isn't something you were doing last game.

Also, you were very rude to Alana last game. Sure, Alana not using proper pronouns is BS, and she was pretty rude back, but it was most of the game. However, what you DIDN'T do is threaten Alana or other players, unless they do what you say.

[Dwlee99]

Okay pick

one

substantial point (not the little extra points) I've made, explain why it indicates town rather than scum, and I will reconsider it.

[Taco Hemingway]

I never had to threaten anyone for a quickhammer because we barely had any. I always threaten people who quickhammer and push on them for it.

[Taco Hemingway]

Comparing this game and that game is apples and oranges and while they're both fruit, the dynamic was different.

[Titus]

Oh my fuckibg god lucifer is also town

I don't see Lucifer as town here.

[Taco Hemingway]

Oh my fuckibg god lucifer is also town

I don't see Lucifer as town here.

Ok and i also walked circles around your slot and had you be 0/2 in our most recently completed game so sorry if im more going to trust my own analysis on LHF slots.

[Seanzie]

Comparing this game and that game is apples and oranges and while they're both fruit, the dynamic was different.

Taco (paraphrased): "I always do this! You should know you saw me do this last game!"

Me (paraphrased): "You didn't do this last game"

Taco (paraphrased): "apples and oranges!"

[Titus]

@Taco, It's early and I get that I'm wrong sometimes too. Here, it feels your Lucifer read is very reactionary in terms of the thread rather than anything he's done.

[Taco Hemingway]

Yes. Because the rudeness in that game is the parallel to my threat against quickhammers in this game.

I dont care if you try to twist my weird outlook about my self meta. You just refuse to acknowledge that my thoughts are very complex for a scum if i am scum here.

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee, I'm curious, apart from me, who do you think could be scum?

Idk Lucifer/pav/Galaxis/salsa?/t3

Lmao, do you have any reads other than me?

Everyone else at least townlean. What's wrong with thinking any of those people could be scum?

Nothing, it's just interesting that you don't have even one of them just slightly higher on your possibilities list

Nothing, it's just interesting that you don't have even one of them just slightly higher on your possibilities list

What?

Read this interaction, Seanzie, then with a straight face tell me Zyla is your top town read.

Taco what are your thoughts on this interaction, for starters?

[Taco Hemingway]

Like nothing is a 100% matching game when it comes to meta.
Its about the motivation behind stuff

[Seanzie]

Yes. Because the rudeness in that game is the parallel to my threat against quickhammers in this game.

I dont care if you try to twist my weird outlook about my self meta. You just refuse to acknowledge that my thoughts are very complex for a scum if i am scum here.

I admit that your thoughts are more complex than a newb scum could do, but I get the feeling you aren't new at this game. I've never seen you as scum but unless you're really bad at scum, you shouldn't be out of your range given your play here.

[Titus]

I think Sean and Taco is t v t and both are being incredibly stubborn about their Z reads.

If I had to pick one to be scum, it would be Sean bussing actually. He had Z at near mason levels of confidence and now he's at scum lock despite Z's play being largely the same.

[Titus]

Sean's read could be looking to save Pavlov though.

So in order

Tvt
Sean bussing
Sean protecting Pav
Taco scum

[Dwlee99]

If I had to pick one to be scum, it would be Sean bussing actually. He had Z at near mason levels of confidence and now he's at scum lock despite Z's play being largely the same.

[Seanzie]

I think Sean and Taco is t v t and both are being incredibly stubborn about their Z reads.

If I had to pick one to be scum, it would be Sean bussing actually. He had Z at near mason levels of confidence and now he's at scum lock despite Z's play being largely the same.

1. How am I being stubborn about my read on Zyla?

2. Uhh, no I didn't ever have Zyla anywhere near "mason level". Go back and read my posts. I clearly indicated that I was finding most people scummy and Zyla was in the position she was because I found her less scummy than others.

3. I don't have Zyla at scumlock right now. I just think based on what is going on Taco/Zyla/T3 make sense as a team. You should stop putting words into my mouth.

4. Switching from having someone as a top townread to a scumread would be a crap bus play. I know you don't know me as a player, but that isn't something I would do because there is no way I get townpoints if Zyla flips scum given my earlier stance.

[Seanzie]

If I had to pick one to be scum, it would be Sean bussing actually. He had Z at near mason levels of confidence and now he's at scum lock despite Z's play being largely the same.

Me bussing here makes zero sense, but okay.

[Dwlee99]

[T3]

Reading over Zyla's ISO her reaction felt weird. There was almost that "how did you catch me" feeling. It was specifically 529. By play there realy wasn't much that I could latch on to except Zyla's 676 which was towny. There was 750 which claimed that Pavowskis posts were back to back which is weird.

[Taco Hemingway]

lmao t3 as scum is an even bigger joke than labeling zyla or i as scum.
Explain why t3 is scum to you.

[Seanzie]

lmao t3 as scum is an even bigger joke than labeling zyla or i as scum.
Explain why t3 is scum to you.

T3 is acting differently this game. Possibly because they are just trying to improve as a player, possibly because they had a recent scum game where they got caught very easily. I don't see T3 as standalone scummy, but their progression on Zyla has weirded me out, so I think Zyla/T3 have teammate equity. In particular, there was a point when Dwlee and I were engaging with each other about Zyla, and Zyla came in with a post that IMO looked like she was trying to use Dwlee/my interactions to push Dwlee off her, and I thought the post looked quite scummy, but T3 immediately chimed in about how towny of a post that was, which felt staged, again as if they were trying to use my sorting of Dwlee to try to push people off Zyla.

So, T3 is possibly scum because they are no longer in their townrange and have teammate equity with Zyla, who I'm also currently entertaining as scum.

[Dwlee99]

Taco respond to my arguments or I'm gonna be impatient and hop back on the Zyla wagon.

[T3]

I still have no idea about Zyla.

I am trying to improve as a player because my normal playstyle gets me scumread as town.

[osuka]

and