Mini Normal 2213 - Village (End Game)

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:46 am

Top (I have thoughts that I'm holding for now as I've been horribly leading mlims all game)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:12 am

In post 1174, Gamma Emerald wrote:That was to be expected

To be clear, this has to do with the NK

MaxTheFox · Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:22 am

In post 1174, Gamma Emerald wrote:
@MaxTheFox
: Why did it seem like you were trying to steal credit for the FMFT flip?

It was not my intention. I wrote that he was only a moderate scumread for me while he was still alive. There's a reason I voted VFP over him (I was wrong).

Good night.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:32 am

Yeah, a likely story, but as I wrote that post you followed up that act with another retroactive justification of your play, THIS TIME stealing Noraa’s words as your own.

ISO · Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:15 am

VOTE: gamma

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:23 am

Noraa no

ItalianoVD · Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:06 am

VOTE: Gamma

ItalianoVD · Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:07 am

In post 1174, Gamma Emerald wrote:@ItalianoVD: Can you explain a bit more about what you meant in post 748?

At the time I was maybe trying to go with the idea that Free Money was town and if he was and you were as well, I didn’t get why he would out you, not just you but anyone for that matter. I don’t see the benefit in it. Seems like something you’d try to keep to yourself; at least the specifics of that information. Obviously that’s not how I feel now.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:15 am

And why was Noraa killed now? She was pretty much townread all game. What’s up with the timing?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:22 am

In post 719, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 701, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Luke was pointing right at kyouko most of the day yesterday, that's an obvious nightkill for kyouko scum
That is what happened upon me, as well.

I assume you don’t still feel this way since you said you've locktown’d ssbm. If this is still true, what is your view on Johnny?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:28 am

In post 1184, ItalianoVD wrote:...since you said you've locktown’d ssbm...

Well I should clarify that you threw it out there to see what others thought of it. Doesn’t necessarily mean you think it.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:29 am

In post 1171, MaxTheFox wrote:I stand by my case. VFP looked extremely scummy. Unfortunate that he was town but if normal games could have jesters I'd have thought he was one. But they don't, so I thought he was scum trying to act "cool".

Who do you think is scum at this point now? You mentioned Gamma. I think now would be a time to show that that read was real.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:42 am

In post 1182, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 1174, Gamma Emerald wrote:@ItalianoVD: Can you explain a bit more about what you meant in post 748?
At the time I was maybe trying to go with the idea that Free Money was town and if he was and you were as well, I didn’t get why he would out you, not just you but anyone for that matter. I don’t see the benefit in it. Seems like something you’d try to keep to yourself; at least the specifics of that information. Obviously that’s not how I feel now.

Well how DO you feel now?

samantha97 · Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:26 pm

Votecount

Gamma Emerald [2]:

Save The Dragons, ItalianoVD

Not Voting: JohnnyFarrar, Andresvmb, Gamma Emerald, MaxTheFox, ssbm_Kyouko

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to reach majority.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-06-12 12:00:00) or when majority is reached.

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:48 pm

In post 1183, ItalianoVD wrote:And why was Noraa killed now? She was pretty much townread all game. What’s up with the timing?

I was going to wait to respond to this but I dont have any TRs left now and I think that partly sums up the kills.

Obviously not everyone can be scum but there are so many people that have little to no content, whether that is through low volume or low substance in posting, not voting, or a combination of these.

Luke was my strongest TR on D1 and Noraa was a close second that I was harboring suspicions of bussing RLotus on. After Noraa read my soul late in D1 and I saw RLotus flip green I had a solid read on both Luke and Noraa, both of whom turned out to be town. I'm not sure who else TRed Luke but I suspect he was killed because he was a townie that was TRed by town, or possibly because he sheeped town (Noraa).

Obviously Dunn was killed because he was PR.

Noraa I think was also killed because she was widely TRed. I expect I am next but maybe scum are saving me for mlimlo, as I have posted the main cases on both VFP and RLotus and was heavily involved in Gamma not dying yesterDay.

I have an additional theory on why these 2 players in particular were killed but I would like to see if anyone else sees it as my theories keep leading to town lims.

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:05 pm

I also think everyone should case along with their votes today and tomorrow and preferably consider plausible partners when doing so

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:28 pm

I actually have 3 TRs currently

MaxTheFox · Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:46 pm

Honestly I wonder why Nora didn't die

earlier

. She was the town leader. Maybe mafia was afraid of a protective?

MaxTheFox · Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:48 pm

In post 1178, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, a likely story, but as I wrote that post you followed up that act with another retroactive justification of your play, THIS TIME stealing Noraa’s words as your own.

Again what am I supposed to say if I agreed with Nora's reads (besides the push on me obv)?

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:46 pm

In post 1192, MaxTheFox wrote:Honestly I wonder why Nora didn't die
earlier
. She was the town leader. Maybe mafia was afraid of a protective?

Maybe on N1 they were, then N2 off they target a known PR over Noraa, leaving her for N3

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:50 pm

In post 1191, Gamma Emerald wrote:I actually have 3 TRs currently

Seems steep, with 3 TRs that doesn't leave many scumteams FYPOV. Assuming your TRs are town what's the most plausible team and which member do you SR primarily/why?

If you could share TRs and reasoning as well that would be helpful

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:51 pm

In post 1194, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1192, MaxTheFox wrote:Honestly I wonder why Nora didn't die
earlier
. She was the town leader. Maybe mafia was afraid of a protective?
Maybe on N1 they were, then N2
obv
they target a known PR over Noraa, leaving her for N3

EBWOP

ISO · Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:26 pm

scum is probably {max, gamma} imo.

d1 my gut said gamma was scum, d2 was FMFT's day to out information he shouldn't have had, d3 i don't think my conversation with gamma makes me think he's any less of scum.

not sure about max but something pings me about "I stand by my case" 1171. i have a lot of trs on most everyone else.

MaxTheFox · Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:01 pm

I think Andres is town. He is kinda quiet but not scum quiet. The hammer is NAI or even town-indicative as most people wanted VFP dead anyways.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:16 am

In post 1195, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1191, Gamma Emerald wrote:I actually have 3 TRs currently
Seems steep, with 3 TRs that doesn't leave many scumteams FYPOV. Assuming your TRs are town what's the most plausible team and which member do you SR primarily/why?

If you could share TRs and reasoning as well that would be helpful

I’ll do this either after Andres comes in and answers my question or if I get tired of waiting