Mini 671 - Dwarf Fortress - Game Over!

[Knight of Cydonia]

Reading up now, hi all.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Okay, CoCam, your whole day 1 reads scummily to me - and you then basically turned around a good point about your playstyle and used WIFOM to deflect it.
I cannot explain how much I hate meta, and IMHO only scum should need WIFOM based on meta to defend themselves.

Vote: CoCam

[roffman]

Sorry guys, RL issues have limited my posting for a few days and will continue to limit them for a few more. Should be able to make a significant post soon.

in related news, still waiting for full claim from timeater. I'll give you full reasoning and decision paths in a few days.

[iLord]

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This is completely false. In a previous game(one of my first) I got into a bit of trouble and drew suspicion. I was town and since I was drawing bad attention I exploded. I completely lost it and all I did was make it worse. So I decide in this game that I'm gonna back off and let things cool down and all that happens is the exact same thing, people still suspect me. holy moley.

Umm...

That doesn't go against my logic.

Townies explode - you exploded.

Scum back away - you backed away this game.

I don't get how it is scummy, since if scum wanted to vote someone, wouldn't they use the random phase (not ending the random phase) as an excuse to vote? Also, I don't get what is the point of this statement, since I don't really see how it applies to Tuberkulos.

It's scummy because it gives the scum an excuse to do pratically whatever they want. If they get called out on it, they just say "I just wanted to end the random phase."

Tuber's excuse for his vote on getting a "lucky hit" was that it was the random phase.

iLord, please respond to this, since we cleared up the confusion of me not saying that quote

I explained it here:

Lucky Hit =/= random vote.

Lucky Hit = Random Wagon = Bad for town.

Since you're so good at math !

I think Coheed's at L-3.

[Ramus]

I know its not the same, what I was trying to say with that is that his logic was wrong. Its all on the player what they do, theres no set of, If X does this then their Y and if X does this then their Z

Well, there's better ways of proving someone wrong. Besides, at this rate you're digging yourself into a hole, and seeing as there's no viable defense strategy at this point in the game, you should make it your priority to get attention onto someone else.

Just a tip. Either way, you have one more post to give me a reason not to vote you since you've done nothing but make lame excuses. Heck, even the townie backing off doesn't seem all that likely anymore after that attempt to break iLord's logic.

Using ending the random phase as an excuse to vote is extremely scummy - I've seen many a scum do that.

I don't get how it is scummy, since if scum wanted to vote someone, wouldn't they use the random phase (not ending the random phase) as an excuse to vote? Also, I don't get what is the point of this statement, since I don't really see how it applies to Tuberkulos.

I don't see how ending the random vote phase is a bad thing at all. It's probably one of the best things to happen to the town on the first day. Random votes only seem to cause disputes if anything and don't bring up evidence. Therefore ending random voting seems pretty townie regardless of how it's done (with the exception of lynching someone).

[iLord]

I don't see how ending the random vote phase is a bad thing at all. It's probably one of the best things to happen to the town on the first day. Random votes only seem to cause disputes if anything and don't bring up evidence. Therefore ending random voting seems pretty townie regardless of how it's done (with the exception of lynching someone).

The random phase ending is a good thing.

Using "ending the random phase" as an excuse to do whatever is scummy.

[CoheedCambria09]

then lynch...

[CoheedCambria09]

I'll claim after 1 more vote though.

[Pesco47]

then lynch...

If there's a pro-town day-vig out there, please fire for this.

[Ramus]

then lynch...

. . .

Vote: CoheedCambria09

[Timeater]

O_o

[Knight of Cydonia]

THat's L-2 Coheed, you did promise to claim after 1 more vote.

[iLord]

Coheed, your bluff isn't fooling anyone - we will lynch you if so decide.

[CoheedCambria09]

I am a thief. I can take roles away from players. Its an anti town power role in my opinion

[iLord]

Wow - that is really anti-town - a lot mroe so than a roleblocker.

I'm not buying it - I think you're not fakeclaiiming and trying to get a way with it.

[Timeater]

I find it odd that he would powerclaim before he nameclaims. On that, what is your name, Coheed?

A thief that targets an SK or NK-able scummer could be alot of help to the town. Was he hinting at miller?

I dont like how sloppy his claim is, and his "then lynch" comment. Its an apathetic response that I've seen alot from scummers who are on the verge of just giving up.

[reborn537]

That role doesn't even work. Why would you EVER use it.

vote coheedcambria

Gambit claim not paying off. I think you're scum, and if you're telling the truth, I really won't lose sleep over your lynch.

[Knight of Cydonia]

L-1 - Coheed, if that was a fake claim, sort it out. I'd like to see your name as well - as a DF vet, I can translate it using the game - if it's a fake name claim, I'd be willing to bet it's fake role too.

[iLord]

@Tim: Yeah, but if he hurts a town power role, the town loses it forever. Unlike a roleblocker, one miss could be devastating.

@Reborn: Why doesn't it work?

[reborn537]

It doesn't work as a role because you would never use it so you are basically vanilla. That's why I think it's a botched fakeclaim.

The only use for it would be using it on a confirmed scum who for some reason wasn't lynched during the day.

[iLord]

Don't forget claimed vanilla.

[CoheedCambria09]

My name isTlilibigralgis and I'm a lowly Kobold Thief.

The role is setup where I can steal Items from people, and by doing that I take away their role, an example is that Id steal a weapon from a SK or Vig, and medical equipment from a doctor. Thats how the role works. Like I said, In my opinion its an anti-town power role.

[iLord]

Look at your examples - you didn't even bother making up good pro-town examples.

Why would the mod give a townie a weird role, and then give examples on how it hurts SKs, Vigs, and Doctors, rather than how it hurts Mafia?

Aren't Kobold's bad - I'm a dwarf.

[CoheedCambria09]

The mod didnt make up those examples, I did, and if you want mafia ones then I can steal their roleblock, and any other powers they have. I'm not sure if I can steal their kill though.

[iLord]

Why do you think you can steal the SK and Vig's kills, but not the Mafia?