Open 811 - Lovers and Losers (New Game+) [Game Over]

[Vex Vience]

ok, i fail to see what this is getting at?

[Kerset]

That was my glorious play which caused you all to argue, deepen your grudge against each other to make sure that you vote out each other. It worked so well

[Bingle]

Why would I put wasted effort into describing how I was going to play as town to someone to whom I was confirmed town in this game, when provably as town in the last game I'm not one to waste effort on stupid shit like that?

Why would I as scum not be prepared for a scenario where someone tried to do the thing that literally just happened in the previous iteration of the game?

[Vex Vience]

also, @kerset, all i'm getting at from reading the f3 from that game is you're angry at bingle for correctly reading you as scum.
if that's the reason--and i'm trying to say this as politely as possible--what the actual fuck? you refuse to talk to someone because you're still angry at them for losing a game a year ago?

[Vex Vience]

VOTE: bingle

i've read enough. you are scum.

[Bingle]

Better question:

RM, in our previous PT, did I give any indication of how to read Bambi or Vex, knowing full well that both Bambi and Vex are traditionally difficult reads?

[Vex Vience]

if you are actually town in this game, please never play again. i love you man, but please never play again. i know you are able to understand what i'm saying and what i'm getting at--you're just actively refusing to acknowledge it.

[Kerset]

You know Vex. The truth is that you try to be the best you can but you end up over reading stuff, which doesn't make you better at all.

[Bingle]

No, you're asserting that I would have done something that I would never have done.

[Vex Vience]

Why would I put wasted effort into describing how I was going to play as town to someone to whom I was confirmed town in this game, when provably as town in the last game I'm not one to waste effort on stupid shit like that?

Why would I as scum not be prepared for a scenario where someone tried to do the thing that literally just happened in the previous iteration of the game?

i'm talking about discussing the flips from the last game, and using that knowledge of how people will play to your advantage for this game.

when have i ever said "discuss your own play"? i've said "discuss other's play, and try to come up with an idea for that"

[RationalMadman]

Better question:

RM, in our previous PT, did I give any indication of how to read Bambi or Vex, knowing full well that both Bambi and Vex are traditionally difficult reads?

No but this seems like something you're trying to force my hand on to get me to back you up here?

The conflict between Bambi and Vex vs myself only happened inside the game's DP1, not pregame.

[Vex Vience]

kerset, instead of just adding nothing to the discussion, why don't you prove to me your lover is town?

[Vex Vience]

because from my pov atm, you and jingle are the scumlovers, and i'm absolutely certain that rm/ana is town, leaving only klick/tbone

[Kerset]

also, @kerset, all i'm getting at from reading the f3 from that game is you're angry at bingle for correctly reading you as scum.
if that's the reason--and i'm trying to say this as politely as possible--what the actual fuck? you refuse to talk to someone because you're still angry at them for losing a game a year ago?

no... you dont get it

[Bingle]

The premise behind VV's push is that I would discuss how to read someone with Kerset in the pregame here. Have I given any indication that that is the case?

[Vex Vience]

then please explain why you don't like jingle, because that's what i got from reading the thread

[Vex Vience]

The premise behind VV's push is that I would discuss how to read someone with Kerset in the pregame here. Have I given any indication that that is the case?

the premise behind my push is partly that, yes.
but also because you are actively refusing to listen to what i have to say, and trying to strawman my argument.

[Bingle]

but also because you are actively refusing to listen to what i have to say, and trying to strawman my argument.

I sit in a position where I know your argument to be inherently wrong, and I'm not strawmanning it. I'm outright telling you there's nothing relevant to be discussed in the mason thread for this game.

[Vex Vience]

yes there is though??
we saw that rm was town. they were scumread, and a very easy mis-elim.
we saw that llama was scum. they were townread by basically everyone.

you're telling me that there was nothing to acknowledge or learn from that?

[Vex Vience]

i swear jingle, i can't tell if you're actually this dense, or acting like it to annoy me.

[Bingle]

yes there is though??
we saw that rm was town. they were scumread, and a very easy mis-elim.
we saw that llama was scum. they were townread by basically everyone.

you're telling me that there was nothing to acknowledge or learn from that?

I'm telling you that there's nothing to acknowledge or learn from that that isn't BETTER SERVED BEING DISCUSSED IN THE MAIN THREAD.

[Kerset]

then please explain why you don't like jingle, because that's what i got from reading the thread

Do you want me to get banned for holding a grudge? You need to take my word that i dont enjoy talking with him and dont confuse it with dislike towards player

[Vex Vience]

so how to read a player based on their last game is best discussed in the main thread, where they can sway your opinion?

[Vex Vience]

i'm dipping from the thread, because i'm actually starting to get frustrated at you jingle. i have said what my reasoning is multiple times, yet you still refuse to acknowledge it.

[Bingle]

Like, literally my first action in this thread was to poke people over their thoughts about RM last game and how that applied to this game. You know why I poked those people? Because I don't know their alignment and their thought processes can help me determine that. You know what talking about that with Kerset can get me? Fucking nothing. I'm not going to magically be able to read Kerset better, because I know Kerset's town. I'm not going to magically be able to read RM better, because neither Kerset nor I know if RM is town. I'm not going to magically make Kerset better at reading RM, because Kerset is naturally going to approach the game the way Kerset always approaches the game.