Micro 1008: Burdened by Secrecy 2 (Paragon + Town Win)

[Lila Pitts]

yeah meta knowledge is limited in this list

ehh my theory about scum is completely devoid of meta so i mean i think i still stand by it but ill reconsider i guess if i might've assumed anything

[Lila Pitts]

flea lolcatted the last game as scum and everyone knew flea was scum in secrecy

[Vanya Hargreeves]

However I was expecting Flea to like, show that if fae were scum this game so thats why i townread them. Especially considering fae played the setup before and seemed to absolutely revel (is that how that word is used) in essentially openwolfing

[Lila Pitts]

maru got away with an insane gambit basically is how scum won

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Yea i saw that lmao

I didnt like read the game thoroughly but fae still won so clearly something worked

But no in Royalty and that schadd game fae was in town blocks. The Royalty game fae were screwed by game mechanics not from reads

[Vanya Hargreeves]

An insane gambit.... like putting a teammate at X-1 or something?

[Lila Pitts]

they self voted themself and asked to be yeeted

[Vanya Hargreeves]

So in other words risk-taking won the game for scum last time

[Lila Pitts]

i suppose yes, but i think its different because the gambit maru pulled was due to an actual error and maru was trying to salvage it

[Lila Pitts]

tweet you play/played league right?

[Vanya Hargreeves]

But you're wayyy more confident it's Klaus/Vayna rather than anything else because Klaus voted Alli

as well as yes because of ur reasoning that all scum was in or outside that i still dont exactly grasp

pedit: I see but like

I would definitely play around with voting a teammate as scum, dont know if i would, but i might cause thats kinda how you win -- take a risk that works

Klaus voting Alli while i was railing elsewhere for reasoning that didnt even really make sense.........................

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Mhm I used to play a ton of league now I do on occasion

Oh sorry for not answering the office question that was obfuscation. I haven't seen it sadly

[Vanya Hargreeves]

But you're wayyy more confident it's Klaus/Vayna rather than anything else because Klaus voted Alli

as well as yes because of ur reasoning that all scum was in or outside that i still dont exactly grasp

pedit: I see but like

I would definitely play around with voting a teammate as scum, dont know if i would, but i might cause thats kinda how you win -- take a risk that works

Klaus voting Alli while i was railing elsewhere for reasoning that didnt even really make sense.........................

TO CLARIFY i meant that Klaus' reason for Alli didnt make sense to me

He said that Alli made their alignement obvious which was "????". Yes I agree but that isn't something that makes Alli scummier. I am unsure if Klaus genuinely didnt know or if that was intentionally weak

[Vanya Hargreeves]

He said that Alli made their alignement obvious which was "????".

IDENTITY NOT ALIGNMENT

HOYL SHIT TYPE

[Lila Pitts]

im going to be honest vanya, klaus voting alli to me matters a lot less than the dynamic of passing the kill selector around

okay league metaphor

if you are up 10k in gold, do you go for a 50/50 baron smite fight?

vs if you are down 10k in gold, do you go for a 50/50 baron

[Lila Pitts]

wait why am i trying to convince you that you are scum especially when you dont even make the decisions lmfao what am i doing

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Let's say I held the kill selector and then used it on Alli or Five or whoever

Why does that implicate me *NOT* being with Klaus, which is what you're saying. You're saying that klaus/i not using it is indicative of us being together, does the inverse apply?

I would do something scummy looking if it made somebody else who isn't my partner look bad. If it tied me to somebody who is my partner (such as if Klaus and I were together who are now going to vote out someone together), i wouldnt want to

Like I want to vote with townies not with scum

Idk trying to get this is important to understanding if your confidence is reasonable and yet, I'm pretty sure I would have passed the kill selector as scum

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Well maybe I wanna know if you're scum or not

But I also might be too low IQ to grasp what you're saying. If you're scum with Klaus it might even be true and I dont understand it

[Lila Pitts]

i guess if you used the kill selector on alli/five id say it'd be still indicative of you being scum because i'd think you would always pick klaus

[Vanya Hargreeves]

What really isn't helping is I keep thinking Alli is the one who died. That's how little content im working with on alli/five

[Lila Pitts]

but also i guess we wouldn't have been able to pull off a lim necessarily if you picked klaus huh and we were all kinda cognizant of that too

okay this is getting warpy

[Vanya Hargreeves]

If I actually were forced to kill someone I would have picked Alli because I wanted the elim to happen immediately. I was never going to pick someone in our circle of 3, that much should be clear

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Yup you got it

[Vanya Hargreeves]

And yes I do regret that decision in hindsight when Five was my only real "townread"

I just said i had little content to work with on Five I meant Klaus we dont need to solve Five

[Vanya Hargreeves]

Also I didnt mean to pass it to Klaus, I'm pretty sure Klaus mistakenly thought i gave it to them. I wanted to ask Klaus "Do you want me to pick or you to pick?"

but then he came in and said "I PICK LILA"