Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[DkKoba]

Yes i totally am that stupid that i as scum dont just ctrl f for existing claims

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

basically a tldr: I'm informed gs, we have 4 guns this game (I am 1 of those)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so there's four guns in a total this game, Andante is confirmed town, dead gun, which means 3 more guns total and we have:



four claimed guns - which should mean 2 of these at least are lying.

[VFP]

Well I'm lost.
We have 4 gun claims on top of a 5th from Andante.

[DkKoba]

this implies lemon/asteria are scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If there's 2 scum with guns - then there is only 1 TPR with a gun and that means THREE of these players are lying:




If there's 1 scum with a gun (1 doctor, 1 traitor or other scum without a gun) then TWO of these players are lying:

[DkKoba]

I believe clidd

[VFP]

Maybe Clidd / Lemon?
I don't even know now.

[InsidiousLemons]

Ok, I don't understand the mechanics being discussed in relation to the scum doctors and guns, so I need someone to summarize the claims and results in a simplified way.

there are 4 guns. claims on the board so far are:
- andante (gunsmith, confirmed)
- koba (weak vig)
- asteria (non-consecutive night neapolitan)
- me (n2 rolecop)
- you (n1 detective)

the only mafia who count as NOT having guns are traitors and doctors. there is 1 doctor, confirmed. if there is 1 mafia doctor, everyone except 2 people are lying about their claims. if there is a mafia doctor and a traitor, everyone except 1 person is lying about their claim. at this point i'm beginning to think this setup is more about the gunsmith and their information and the doctor is a red herring. there may be no town killing role at all, though i'm not sure how bastardly or Normal it is to have a doctor who functions solely to obscure gunsmith results. what the fuck is this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Either way that's max 1 scum within:

Pooky, Anya, Osuka, VFP, Andres because there must be at least TWO liars in the gun category unless NONE of the scum have gun in which case I WILL FLAME DATISI SO HARD AFTER THIS GAME FOR PUTTING A INFORMED GUNSMITH INTO A GAME WHERE SCUM DONT HAVE A SINGLE GUN LIKE WHAT A RIDICULOUS GAME

[VFP]

At this point is might be worth Anya, Osuka, and Andre claiming.
Since everyone is already outed and there's most likely 2+ scum in the PRs.

[InsidiousLemons]

agreed @vfp. we need as many pieces of the puzzle as possible atp

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea we might as well mass claim at this point

[DkKoba]

Idk if my lim like solves this

[InsidiousLemons]

UNVOTE:

[VFP]

In before another Vig claim...

[DkKoba]

im considering saccing myself for the good of the poe

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

after mass claim i want to think about what setup is most likely to get passed

we almost definitely elim in the gun pool today and tommorrow due to lie density there being off the chart

[DkKoba]

well i do have the rb cc confirmed to the public now so

[DkKoba]

VOTE: asteria

[DkKoba]

I still dont get why people think that scum me takes such a huge risk in a claim in weak vig, i know i havent been able to confirm it but like we just basically confirmed theres a scum who has gun, and that scum is roleblocker.
Thats probably why andante died

[DkKoba]

Idk who 3rd scum is outside gun claims but i heavily think theres 2 inside now

[InsidiousLemons]

do you have any suspicions about who the other townies/scum in the gun claims are?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um there has to be at least 2 scum in the gun claims if we are in a 1 scum with gun world

if we are in a 2 scum with gun world, there are three scum in the gun claims.

So if I dont see a traitor flip im happy to just kill every gun claimer