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[Iconeum]

Samantha is just 'yeet this it's fixed anyway'

with some bullshit levels of confidence that have no place in lylo

[Iconeum]

and outworld is having something of a tea party with his number one scumread

i don't even know

[Datisi]

every time i try to think about this game i always just circle back to "man. two investigatives able to get a clear a night is too much town power" and i'm like asdkjsfhgkj

[Iconeum]

why haven't you layed out full mech spec yet?

[Iconeum]

i tried to give it a start but you didn't pick it up?

[Datisi]

why haven't you layed out full mech spec yet?

because 2157 still haunts my nightmares

but ok

town odd-night combined neighbourizer rolestopper
town macho traffic analyst
town loyal mailman
town doctor
town mailman enabler
5x vt

mafia goon
2x mafia ???

vs

town odd-night combined neighbourizer rolestopper
town macho traffic analyst
town doctor
town mailman enabler
6x vt

mafia mailman
mafia goon
mafia ???

like. for that first one to work i feel like the remaining scum would have to be hella boosted. maybe informed or smt. obviously the neighbourizer becomes a false positive to the ta and their target is a false positive for the loyal mailman but like is that enough?

bc like. even if you kill the mailman enabler. shit, even if you kill the mailman himself, the last message will still be sent out and it's a potential clear if town is smart about claiming mail.

vs the second one some sorta macho cop, a doctor, a half-doctor who also creates false-positives, and a scum you cannot guilty while the mailman enabler is alive

[Datisi]

of course, we could look at this the other way

why did ico soft loyal? that's incredibly dumb for scum!him because he'd have to treat whoever he sent mail to as conf-town

however however he did not solely crumb loyal, which we know bc he said he softed by mentioning 892 too

which means he might've not even been planning to claim loyal, but instead did it now because lol the mailman enabler is dead

[Iconeum]

the TA, under 'normal' circumstances, does not generate clears

assuming N1 happens without much trouble

there's 2 neighbours that generate positive, plus me and not accounting for anything scum might have
then you have a rolestopper in there which can hurt me and the TA, again not even accounting what scum might have
the TA can't be docced

[Iconeum]

however however he did not solely crumb loyal, which we know bc he said he softed by mentioning 892 too

after this game you will realize I just literally couldn't find the loyal mailman game and settled for 892 until Luca brought it up

[Datisi]

the TA, under 'normal' circumstances, does not generate clears

anyone who is a negative to the ta is literally cleared (or traitor, but like when did you last see a traitor in the game so)

[Iconeum]

ok true

better make up your mind about my claim if you think i'm playing shenanigans this time

[Datisi]

nooot helpinngggg

maybe we should to this the old fashioned way (which always went amazingly well)

at some point you said you were obvtown this game, no? do you mind elaborating on that?

[Iconeum]

i'd rather you do that actually

you think anywhere near my scum meta here?

[Datisi]

i mean the thing is i'm not even sure what your scum meta is anymore, it's been ages since i've played a proper game with scumconeum

i feel like your play here in lylo is kinda flat compared to some of the town!lylos i've seen you in, but the problem is i kinda feel like your most likely partner is outworld which is a world we always lose in anyway bc i don't think samantha's mind could ever be changed wrt umlaut

but that would also mean umlaut is town and he's like. not trying. and like my brain is struggling to consider there being town in umlaut/outworld because my god why are they just planking in lylo? that's not what town does?

[Iconeum]

if my play looks flat it's because there's 3 scum slots that somehow contain town in them and none makes sense with that allignment

[Datisi]

what's making you think samantha is scum?

[samantha97]

umlaut has been in snipe range for over 24 hours now

and?

and it proves that either umlaut is mafia or I am (or that the mafia in this game is just horrible)

it's been 35 hours now

if you think umlaut is more likely town than me I have a wonderful bridge to sell you after this game

[samantha97]

or that we're both mafia *spooky arm movements*

[Umlaut]

VOTE: Samantha

I still can't totally rule out OW/Icon but honestly Sam seems more likely scum anyway, like I think she thought I was just going to get fastyeeted today and she didn't have to do anything

[Datisi]

umlaut buddy why are you planking

the hecc are your reads

why are you like this

[samantha97]

I think she thought I was just going to get fastyeeted today and she didn't have to do anything

no one who experienced yesterday would genuinely think that lol

llama hardconfirmed mafia and still takes like a week to lynch him

but thx to my vote and the passage of time you are now almost as confirmed as he was

[samantha97]

it's now the 2 day anniversary of umlaut being in snipe range

[Iconeum]

Samantha

what are your reads

Umlaut

what are your reads

Outworld

what are your reads

why is nobody caring????

[Iconeum]

what's making you think samantha is scum?

you realize this isn't a sudden thing that just happened right?

[Iconeum]

it's now the 2 day anniversary of umlaut being in snipe range

which means absolutely nothing so please start working with whoever the fuck you think is town?