Mini 659: The Neighborhood- Game over on Day 6

[TonyMontana]

I'm happy to give unrequired opinions on people's accusations. And it's not like I'm a bystander, she suggested my lynch based on her tommy-buddy scenario.
and yes, I can appreciate the irony of seemingly sticking up for Tommy now. -.-

[crywolf20084]

... however, this brings up some new ones. It is fine if you believe Tommy is more scummy for buddying up, but you are now assuming both scum?

You are correct in saying Tommy would be the lynch over Tony if this situation convinces you at least 1 of them are scum.

QFT. That's exactly what I think. No, I'm not assuming both are scum, fhq, but in the same breath, yes, it could be true for some stupid play by dumb scum.

[Ythill]

Sorry folks. I spent way too much time on another game. Will be back by Wednesday to address current topics.

[Oman]

TonyWagon 08 > Tommywagon 08

[TonyMontana]

DaroxWagon > TonnyWagons

[gorckat]

Vote Count

(6 to lynch)

Darox(3):

Ythill, TonyMontana, fhqwhgads

TonyMontanav(2):

Darox, Oman

Tommy:

crywolf

Not voting (4):

Elias, Rashiminos, Tommy, bionic

**Elias has not posted since Thursday and Rashiminos has not picked up his prod. Seeking replacements for both.**

[Darox]

The grand list reasons why Darox initially placed his vote on Hannah Montana.

From the beginning, twilight of day 1.

IGMEOY, Oman...

Oman makes an obvious joke. Tony thinks this is suspicious and apparently deserving of an acronym. Now this could just be high spirits, but lets press on.

Are you trying to make yourself a Mafia target, or are you rather trying to misdirect a doc?

In response to Rashiminos saying that since Lowell has been hammered he will wait until the next day to post all his suspicions.
...
What the hell, Tony?

Where did this idea that not posting all your innermost thoughts and fancies before night falls makes you a prime mafia target come from?
What made you blurt out to the world that you thought Rashiminos thoughts were so important that stopping them would be a mafia priority?
To me this looks like a really bad attempt to frame Rashiminos for nothing more substantial than cotton candy.

I didn't IGMEOY you for your last comments.

Tony states he wasn't acronyming Oman for his Lyncher joke after all, and that there are mysterious alter motives for this. Oman is quick to ask what reasons he has for this vicious acronyming, but Tony refuses to even dignify him with a proper response. I think Tony was hoping for backup from anyone on this and when it failed to arrive he faltered then clammed up.

Could it not just be that they wanted to get the miller out of the way rather sooner than later, and save power-role hunting for when they have a better shot?
No scum wants a miller in a endgame.

And the chance that user could've been fakeclaiming to protect himself would be a bonus.

Starting the day by lamenting the loss for the town is a very old scumtell.

FoS:Elias

I just thought of another reason to kill user. So the scum can be like "why on earth would they kill user?"

"Guys, it was a good choice, honest! I'm not dumb guys, I know my choice was a smart one."

Seriously though, what compelled you to

justify

the scum night choice. You are throwing out a collection of reasons why the scum night choice was a good decision, and you mention that if he was a cop in disguise it would have been a bonus.

And user narrowed a cops search for scum, as well as the towns (as long as user was believed) , so yet another reason for them to take him out of the equation.

More of the above, justifying the scum's kill.

Shortly after this I vote for Tony.

He then proceeds to extend his policy of stonewalling Oman to include my questions as well.

[Rashiminos]

Posting in response to the prod.

The former was being mildly evasive and now is simply annoyed with the nitpicking. The latter is the one who is stonewalling. Let's make this very simple...

You're calling someone out for stonewalling?

I remember yesterday and option C.

##Vote: Ythill

[gorckat]

Rashi responded within 15 minutes of the prod expiring, so he won't need replacing.

[Ythill]

Quick post before work.

@Rash: Stonewalling reasons for a vote is very different than refusing to state something that could hurt the town.

Thanks for (finally) answering, Darox. I don't agree that your case is strong or obvious, but I can believe that you think so. I will be watching you, in the meanwhile...

##unvote, vote: crywolf

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[crywolf20084]

##unvote, vote: crywolf

.

Is there anything new to warrent this vote on myself? If so, please share.

[gorckat]

Vote Count

(6 to lynch)

Darox(2):

TonyMontana, fhqwhgads

TonyMontana(2):

Darox, Oman

Tommy:

crywolf

Ythill:

Rashiminos

crywolf:

Ythill

Not voting (3):

Elias, Tommy, bionic

[Tommy]

Can I quickly state that I doubt Ythill to be scum right now.

Can I again ask you to expand?

[TonyMontana]

Oman makes an obvious joke. Tony thinks this is suspicious and apparently deserving of an acronym. Now this could just be high spirits, but lets press on.

Press on indeed, since you are stating my intent falsely on purpose.

In response to Rashiminos saying that since Lowell has been hammered he will wait until the next day to post all his suspicions.
...
What the hell, Tony?

Where did this idea that not posting all your innermost thoughts and fancies before night falls makes you a prime mafia target come from?

Where? I think you just now made the idea up.
I was questioning why Rash felt the need to announce in twilight that he would "hold off on that post until day 2 starts so that I might work with or drop the connections info that I have." The promise of this post was EBWOP'ed with a call for a hammer.

Tony states he wasn't acronyming Oman for his Lyncher joke after all, and that there are mysterious alter motives for this. Oman is quick to ask what reasons he has for this vicious acronyming, but Tony refuses to even dignify him with a proper response. I think Tony was hoping for backup from anyone on this and when it failed to arrive he faltered then clammed up.

I didn't get to answer him, because the thread was locked for night just after.
And Oman called me on it today, and I explained myself. Maybe if you read the thread, you would stop picking up arguments i have already talked over with other people.

Seriously though, what compelled you to

justify

the scum night choice. You are throwing out a collection of reasons why the scum night choice was a good decision, and you mention that if he was a cop in disguise it would have been a bonus.

Your point being? That I wanna do public relations for the mob?
Understanding nightkills helps figuring out who makes them.

More of the above, justifying the scum's kill.

And you still fail to explain what is scummy about "justifying" scumkills.

Shortly after this I vote for Tony.

And not-so-shortly after this you manage to scrap together reasons for that vote.

He then proceeds to extend his policy of stonewalling Oman to include my questions as well.

I didn't stonewall Oman, and I didn't stonewall you. Just because you ignore every answer I give (including those I have given to other people) doesn't mean I'm not answering you.

Weak, darox. Weak.

[crywolf20084]

@Tony: Yeah, it may be weak...but at least we have something from him, not to defend the weak posting

[crywolf20084]

Great. Nobody's posted in almost a day. Beautiful.

[bionicchop2]

3-4 people have completely disappeared from the game. Bound to cause some lulls in the action.

[gorckat]

3-4 people have completely disappeared from the game. Bound to cause some lulls in the action.

Only Elias is being replaced. No other player is in need of prodding per the 72-hour rule.

That said, more activity is desirable.

[Ythill]

Sorry everyone. I've been busier than expected. Should have time for a real post tomorrow.

[fhqwhgads]

I'm still watching. Nothing more to add really. My vote stays where it is, until someone changes my mind significantly.

[Darox]

Apathy strikes hard and fast.

I'll get around to explaining why Tony is still scum and why his answers are unsatisfactory some time this weekend.

[Oman]

Can I quickly state that I doubt Ythill to be scum right now.

Can I again ask you to expand?

He's acting as I would expect town to and not how I would expect scum to. He's prolly town.

[Tommy]

Rashiminos, what are the reasons for your vote?

[Rashiminos]

Where? I think you just now made the idea up.
I was questioning why Rash felt the need to announce in twilight that he would "hold off on that post until day 2 starts so that I might work with or drop the connections info that I have." The promise of this post was EBWOP'ed with a call for a hammer.

I managed to convince myself that Lowell was scum at that point and hoping the info I had collected would lead to a scumpartner should Lowell have been groupscum. Lowell's actual role made most of that info useless.

@ Tommy

For being hypocritical about another player's withholding of information when he did it yesterday. Different context (wifom on user's role, vote reasons), but the idea is generally the same.

[Ythill]

Is there anything new to warrent this vote on myself?

Nothing specific. I was simply returning to you after Darox responded, since there was no need to pressure him further. I have seen some suspicious behavior from you recently, but I haven't had much time to consider it. I think I'll be doing a PbPA on you when I have a little more time to post.

For being hypocritical about another player's withholding of information when he did it yesterday.

Can you explain why scum would be more likley than town to be "hypocritical" in this way? I think you're grasping at straws.

Different context (wifom on user's role, vote reasons), but the idea is generally the same.

Sure, and hemlock is generally the same as ginseng, but try telling that to Socrates.