Mini 653 - Family Guy Mafia - Game over

[RestFermata]

Right now these are (assuming 3 scum as we have pretty much done throughout the entire game) the living players:

Town
Town
Town
Kloud's Scum Partner
Kloud

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Tomorrow, if Kloud is living, confirmed scum, and there is a scum kill in the night, and no kind of vig, we will have:

Town
Town
Kloud's Scum Partner
Kloud

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Won't we have already lost?

[RestFermata]

(This is of course assuming that Kloud is scum. We can't know that for sure yet, but I think it's the worst case scenario so I have to consider it.)

[RestFermata]

EBWOP. Wait a minute. I screwed up. There are 6 people here now, right? So it's not that bad. Disregard everything strategic I just said

[farside22]

Lois: Thank you. But I really don't approve of, you know, gambling.

Sees You Coming: Well, technically, it's not really gambling. It's just us trying to rebuild our shattered culture after you raped our land and defiled our women.


Vote count:
Kloud 2 vote: (Save The Dragons, reborn537)
No lynch 2 vote: (kloud1516, RestFermata)

Not voting

LlamaFluff
Elvis_Knits


With 6 people it takes 4 to lynch
Day ends Oct 6th 9:00am PST

[LlamaFluff]

@Kloud, Dragon, RF, EK - Who are the scum?

[Save The Dragons]

Besides Kloud? My guess would be RF, I've been iffy about her the entire game, but I don't really know.

E_K hasn't really done anything particularly scummy. LF is very unlikely, and reborn is less unlikely, but still unlikely. If I find some time, I'll try and go through the thread and see if I can get a better answer.

[LlamaFluff]

well we will find out if Kloud is scum within a few days

[LlamaFluff]

random idea

Make Kloud a super saint, have Dragon hammer Kloud

[RestFermata]

Can we *make* Dragon hammer Kloud?

[LlamaFluff]

if he doesnt we know dragon is scum, we lynch dragon. It involves self-sacrafice though as it leaves us at a three player lylo

[RestFermata]

If you want me to, I will make Dragon into a Super Saint using the Death Ray tomorrow night.

As for who are scum, I see StD + Kloud as being a viable scumpair. StD hasn't said two words about Kloud the entire game until today, and Kloud has only had nice things to say about him until now. I definitely also see E_K as an option, though. I'm not sure who she'd fit in with as a scumpartner, but I'll have to look into it.

[RestFermata]

EBWOP. I will make *KLOUD* into a Super Saint.

[LlamaFluff]

is this a night action SS maker? if so I need to rethink

[RestFermata]

Yes it is.

[LlamaFluff]

This doesnt work then, would of already needed to be out for it to of been a success.

[RestFermata]

Sorry. I was going to use it on Diane, but then when I figured out it wasn't going to kill her, I reconsidered.

Seriously, though, I wanted to use the DR for a pro-town purpose, but I couldn't think of one that wasn't extremely risky. I mean, just because

you

know someone is town doesn't mean they can't be hammered for honest reasons by another honest townsperson. Obviously. Or this game would be ridiculously easy.

[kloud1516]

@Kloud, Dragon, RF, EK - Who are the scum?

At this point I believe that StD and EK are scum.

If you want me to, I will make Dragon into a Super Saint using the Death Ray tomorrow night.

As for who are scum, I see StD + Kloud as being a viable scumpair. StD hasn't said two words about Kloud the entire game until today,

and Kloud has only had nice things to say about him until now.

I definitely also see E_K as an option, though. I'm not sure who she'd fit in with as a scumpartner, but I'll have to look into it.

This would be because, through most of the game, I have not found StD's actions or posts to be suspicious. Day 1 I found his posts to be logical and contributory to the game, and so I did not feel that he was all that scummy. Day 2 was short due to Rock's actions, and a good portion of Day 3 revolved around whether or not the town thought lynching GW was the best option--mitigating a lot of action that would possibly make StD seem suspicious to me.

This changed when Day 4 came around and all of the information amassed by started to fall into place. EK hadn't visited anyone in the night, and you had been RBed, preventing you from performing actions either. This information caused all arrows to then point towards StD as scum, which is why my opinions of him have changed. I would also like to point out that reborn's "where is StD when we need him?" and "thank god for StD" would be applicable to this point as well. Does that make him a viable candidate for scumpartner as well? (I am aware the answer is no, for he is a confirmed power role, but I am just trying to make a point here.)

Suspicions are always open to change, for as information accumulates certain suspicions are strengthened while others are invalidated; which is exactly the case at the moment in regards to StD.

[reborn537]

Regardless of whether STD is scum or town, his clear and logical thinking has helped the town.

[LlamaFluff]

@reborn - What was your invention kmd got called?

Also I am pretty sure that no lynch is the best option here with RF not using the SS maker tonight. First we need Kloud to use his LD on RF's statement about having a pro-town role though.

[kloud1516]

I just sent the post into the mod.

[reborn537]

Portable Forcefield Generating Device

We never found out what it did though.

[LlamaFluff]

well soon enough we will find out all the possible scum combinations, and see if my biggest fears are going to be something that we have to deal with

[Save The Dragons]

I think Kloud has played a pretty good game as scum. If it weren't impossible for him to be town right now, I'd probably still think he was town.

Kloud has stayed mostly under the radar, and has avoided suspicion. If anything, the scuminess I see from him is mostly less activity than other players, but I think posts from Xtoxm, reborn, and others drowned out some of the less talkative players, like thinktank, kloud, and RF.

[RestFermata]

But when kloud did talk, he usually posted really long analyses.

[LlamaFluff]

Well what we are looking at for scum partners are

Kloud-RF
Kloud-EK
Kloud-Dragon
Dragon-EK
Dragon-RF

With what we learn we will either be able to eliminate Dragon-EK or Dragon-RF from the mix... and then we should no lynch. Basically this lie detector eliminates one of the pairings.