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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:54 pm

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i think unwnd takings shots at koba feels like something that's more likely to come from town
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:57 pm

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as a person who has gotten into their fair share of toxic 1v1s you might be misreading things here

doubt unwnd even felt like they were being mean/rude/toxic. entirely nai. what matters more is koba's visceral reaction which indicates probably not scum together for some very metagamey reasons. koba's rep out is also not town indicative, honestly probably scum indicative but to be conservative ill say nai. truth is its not fun being marked for death and not being able to do much to change it esp if u are a tryhard like koba. id argue id feel entirely hopeless for scum while as town they could still contribute but meh potatoe potahto
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:58 pm

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In post 291, Harley Quinn wrote:@Hectic already said he would shoot me and no way was Infinitely surviving an F3. My heart really wasn’t in this. If I roll scum in another game, it will be too soon. At least, this is thankfully over.
is this a bad reason to townread harley, oka
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:01 pm

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ehhhh feels unethical and dangerous and ive been burned by stuff like that

there was a game called baton pass where one of the slots was famous for replacing out of scumslots and basically they towncased themselves by implying they'd reject the role p.m. if they got scum lol and everyone got burned for that
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:02 pm

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reject as in they basically said the reason they were town is they wouldn't have responded to the role pm
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:04 pm

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and this is not even on the same level

but basically what im saying is no its not a bad reason but its not a silver bullet
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:06 pm

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i read that recently heh

shoshin's hilarious to go that far to win a mafia game. i think that's a special case though and most players wouldn't? i get this is an unethical method though

eh, i won't elaborate on more about this specific instance because i'm not sure if i'm crossing any lines here
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:07 pm

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In post 751, OkaPoka wrote:as a person who has gotten into their fair share of toxic 1v1s you might be misreading things here

doubt unwnd even felt like they were being mean/rude/toxic. entirely nai. what matters more is koba's visceral reaction which indicates probably not scum together for some very metagamey reasons. koba's rep out is also not town indicative, honestly probably scum indicative but to be conservative ill say nai. truth is its not fun being marked for death and not being able to do much to change it esp if u are a tryhard like koba. id argue id feel entirely hopeless for scum while as town they could still contribute but meh potatoe potahto
i think koba and ydrasse are unaligned for similar reasons btw. the reasons aren't as strong, but ydrasse was pissed by koba's push on her being scum for shitposting

koba scumflip here is huge
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:08 pm

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and for that reason, we really don't want unwnd or ydrasse in the bad time pool since fire probably flips scum
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:09 pm

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honestly applaudable stuff i wish more scum would go to those lengths, it legitimately makes games less toxic and more enjoyable because now there is always that shadow of a doubt and people won't take crazy stuff that seriously
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:10 pm

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In post 758, Sans Undertale wrote:and for that reason, we really don't want unwnd or ydrasse in the bad time pool since fire probably flips scum
i basically mixed between going all in on a fire scum yolo or hedging my bets and stuffing possible scumteams in case i massively misread koba
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:11 pm

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i'm all for rewarding toxicity less

one of these days i'll have to create an alt where i roll scum and am super toxic all game to get townlocked, just to get a taste before i'm banned...
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:11 pm

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i do feel like a fire scum yolo will be 100% more memorable and exciting however if that means anything

plus if im wrong we lose quickly
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:12 pm

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what's your ideal 3 looking like right now?
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:12 pm

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are we yolo'ing or making sure we can keep playing this
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:14 pm

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give me the yolo pool and the safe pool
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:14 pm

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all in yolo looks like fire/aaron/mom

the lets make sure we didn't throw is fire/ydrasse/hatters

make sure we didn't throw is up to severe changes i am extremely mixed and tired and most of all it hurts the most to need to pick between you/ydrasse/harley
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:15 pm

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i even suppose hatters and unwnd might be subbable idk its so weird

im just too confident on fire scum to consider unwnd scum lasdf i need to see that flip
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:18 pm

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properties of sans/ydrasse/harley

sans - most townie by collaboration, least people scumread you, picking you would be a big middle finger to the spirit of unity

ydrasse - most active in mechanically townsiding imo

harley - best chance of autowin dance 6p if town
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:20 pm

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my gaster senses want us to yolo it, though i disagree with the specific 3

i mean whatever, if we somehow lose day 1 i'm not even gonna be that mad, barely invested any time into the game and pooky will probably run more and better dance games

it feels kinda sucky to compromise on players you think are town just to guarantee we don't lose to the edge case scenario

i think if we just go for 3 scummiest slots it's hard to blunder
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:21 pm

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like our reads can't be thaaat bad
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:24 pm

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more thoughts on who to pick:

ive talked about fire and koba scumcasing through and through, you can iso me for bits and pieces but some other properties is this slot is literally the only slot with an active majority that wants their elimination, is that incredibly fucked? yeah, but it is what it is.

aaron is second with a plurality, tough one because i feel plenty justified to sort of policy aaron out for the way they chose to engage with this game and me but everyone against me is kinda criticizing me for picking them for not agreeing with me. which i mean technically isn't wrong i might be just annoyed with the playstyle and if they really are flavor leaf then like well i have literally scumread them on d1 in every single game we've played together.

then technically the next picks would be between mom/hatters

we just don't have consensus. the next best thing to consensus is a bop. but nobody here is bopable. unlucky really.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:25 pm

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fire + aaron + hatters
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:27 pm

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the thing is i want to collaborate in spite of all my detractors saying that im just picking people who disagree with me to kill. but i can't really figure out a good way to collaborate on this if we literally don't have a majority outside ONE slot. we need three slots. and like every slot i bring up, lots of people aren't going to be happy. deadline is running short, i think i really just need to force something and everybody who is talkative isn't confident and everybody who is confident isn't talkative. asdfsdfsdfadsfad i hate
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:28 pm

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but now we need to deal with mara potentially dunking herself to save fire for whatever reason

mara, can you promise to not actually do that and listen to the consensus of the town? work as a team, y'know

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