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[samantha97]

no you logged in at least once in between then

[Iconeum]

(If Dats is scum Icon immediately becomes one of my strongest town reads due to his "If I was scum that would be an easy spot to park my vote" implies Icon-town in a way that isnt typically the way town approaches the game)

i never said that? like i said the exact opposite, even if i were scum, i sure as hell wouldn't park my vote on ico for the reasoning i'd provided, because that all but locks me into a 1v1 with him for the rest of the game.

in my experience, datisi townreading me at this point is NAI

both scumtisi and towntisi would probably be doing that at this point

[Iconeum]

no you logged in at least once in between then

and?

[samantha97]

and that answers your question

[Iconeum]

Usually when I get pushed into having to approach things from a "what would I have done as scum" scenario I need to go back and read again because I dont know and am not thinking about it, and its very hard to just naturally inject that into a conversation because it involves building up an entirely new thought process.

i've had the misfortune of playing scum against towncounem 6 times in the last ~9 months. at this point, "how to play around town!ico" is basically second nature to me.

though i agree this is getting into not-very-useful theory. ready to reveal your read on outworld?

this is exactly true, so datisi i'm not sure why you were wondering why i *still* wasn't townreading you?

[Iconeum]

and that answers your question

was it a question you actually want an answer for or?

[Luca Blight]

@Luca - Thoughts on Icon? You seem to agree that he was at least misunderstanding Rathe but never really followed anything up there.

Yes, I'm aware. I'm still working out Icon, but I know illogical pushes aren't scum-indicative of him, as Datisi said

Right now I'd probably lean-town but it's not a confident read

[Iconeum]

Im less sure on Icon. Trying to see if this is more town who is locked into stubbornness regarding Rathe or if its more of scum doubling down. Either way its probably at least half Icon believing in their reasoning, even if they are scum. Him ignoring everyone but Umulat is odd too. Right now I want to see what his current read on Rathe is.

who the fuck is doubling down ?
i'm ignoring everyone but umlaut? I adressed every single vote on my wagon with at least a basic analysis.
And I already continued my 1v1 with Rathe to it's conclusion

gtfo son

[Andresvmb]

Oh I forgot about Momrangal, she is my strongest TR atm

I would blow up Luca here for this reason alone.

[Andresvmb]

I’ve only read the first ten pages again or so. Datisi is Town. So is Rathe.

I don’t feel like I want to shoot myself reading Datisi’s early takes. So they’re Town.

[Iconeum]

i would say the reason llamafluff is voting for iconeum is weird because everyone else townreads it

i mean, the reason was ok last week - several players voted me for the same reason. But right now he's just ignoring the sequel to our discussion so he can stick to his scumread on me i guess?

[Luca Blight]

Oh I forgot about Momrangal, she is my strongest TR atm

I would blow up Luca here for this reason alone.

why

[Iconeum]

that doesnt necessarily clear him of all suspicion for that pisspoor push, regardless of if he walked it back or not its still wolfy

town do wolfy things sometimes

something being wolfy doesnt always mean the player is a wolf

town make bad pushes mafia wanna be careful

there are actually really good takes and are very much applicable to me...

players with actual experience with town!coneum can attest to this lol

[Iconeum]

i read his ISO and i just see a bunch of opinions on stuff that is happening, analysis

it reads like he is attempting to solve the game

It reads to me like he's attempting to

look

like he's solving the game, rather than actually trying to do so

There is a subtle but important distinction there

im probably not good enough at this game to notice that distinction anyway

[Iconeum]

i think zoomer is showing vaguely townie reasonings, and i do like that he's had the readslist out decently fast, but his read on umlaut feels... meh. maybe bc i disagree with it but it feels too easy. like scumlaut knows how to make rational points? those posts really aren't that confrontational? time will tell i guess.

I'm getting scum vibes from this

Why exactly?

[Andresvmb]

Oh I forgot about Momrangal, she is my strongest TR atm

I would blow up Luca here for this reason alone.

why

Because Momrangal at that stage as your top TR just doesn’t make any sense. I think I have a way to figure out whether Mom is Town. But by then they had absolutely not revealed their alignment nearly enough for you to call them your top Town. At least I didn’t think so.

[Luca Blight]

Icon, do you feel like Datisi is reading you as Town a little too easily here?

From my previous game with you two this normally never happens, but idk about more recently

[Andresvmb]

Also your whole view of the game was literally opposite of mine. So I figured I would push you on it.

[Iconeum]

@Luca - Thoughts on Icon? You seem to agree that he was at least misunderstanding Rathe but never really followed anything up there.

Yes, I'm aware. I'm still working out Icon, but I know illogical pushes aren't scum-indicative of him, as Datisi said

Right now I'd probably lean-town but it's not a confident read

let's talk about datisi then

i think they are more likely town then scum

[Iconeum]

Oh I forgot about Momrangal, she is my strongest TR atm

I would blow up Luca here for this reason alone.

andres you scum or?

[Luca Blight]

Oh I forgot about Momrangal, she is my strongest TR atm

I would blow up Luca here for this reason alone.

why

Because Momrangal at that stage as your top TR just doesn’t make any sense. I think I have a way to figure out whether Mom is Town. But by then they had absolutely not revealed their alignment nearly enough for you to call them your top Town. At least I didn’t think so.

Well I explained why so it should make some sense

And it was a page 9 read. Right now I'm not so sure on her as she hasn't done much recently

[Iconeum]

I’ve only read the first ten pages again or so. Datisi is Town. So is Rathe.

I don’t feel like I want to shoot myself reading Datisi’s early takes. So they’re Town.

why are you taking jabs at people if you've only read a small part of the game?

[Iconeum]

Oh I forgot about Momrangal, she is my strongest TR atm

I would blow up Luca here for this reason alone.

why

Because Momrangal at that stage as your top TR just doesn’t make any sense. I think I have a way to figure out whether Mom is Town. But by then they had absolutely not revealed their alignment nearly enough for you to call them your top Town. At least I didn’t think so.

that's… actually not the worst reason ok

[Datisi]

Icon, do you feel like Datisi is reading you as Town a little too easily here?

From my previous game with you two this normally never happens, but idk about more recently

whyyyyy does this smell like "oh shit datisi might push me and i'll have to fight it, but ik if he starts obvtowning i'm fucking dead, ay yo ico datisi is kinda scummy right riiiight???"

[Iconeum]

Icon, do you feel like Datisi is reading you as Town a little too easily here?

From my previous game with you two this normally never happens, but idk about more recently

mmm i'd say us townreading each other during day 1 is extremely NAI, and is probably done by any combination of allignments between the 2 of us

i think with the push i did and the fallout from it, towntisi is very much capable of correctly townreading me at this point and scumtisi would be able to fake it so yeah