Micro 1002: Dark Waltz III - Game Over!

[OkaPoka]

sadge

its ok u can low effort just follow my plan mmkay

all we need to do is find top 3 people we want to kill, no hero plays, its less work because its inherently collaborative and if pressure is force over area more people is less pressure!

[Ydrasse]

peepo

let's do this

[Momrangal]

I'm thoroughly unamused by the fact that I'm deemed seemed worthy for death for wanting to dance with franz

[Momrangal]

how do you feel about putting koba and mom in the death pool

I kinda understand your push against me I guess, but why are you keen on putting Koba up in there,

If I didn't know any better, you wanted to get rid of voices who would have a mind to fight you

[OkaPoka]

i want to get rid of people who want to play suboptimally and even after my explanation, still want to play suboptimally and cannot demonstrate why their view of the game is optimal.

unwnd hasn't read the setup. look i don't even want to engage there. they have no strong opinions other than being contrarian honestly.

koba wants to hero play. they want to use hood to sort and suicide? or go to endgame? demonstrably does not understand the setup clearly. why not sort here and why even play with suicide when all it does it sacrifice 1 guaranteed town for 2 maybe scums rather than go for 3 maybe scums. and if they determine suicide isn't the play? what then? have they thought that through? what's the plan then? chaos? how are you going to convince another isolated hood to go after the other isolated hood? who's more coordinated here, scum or town? why not just resolve all these issues today and put the top 3 scum in a box right now and just yeetus. oh wait koba has thought of that:

the inevitable direction of every single person who plays dance and deals with someone annoying

"im tilted idc who we pair can we just go to next phase"

??? Its obvious strategy to group 3 scummiest and launch them outta here. Whats ur point

but now wants to suicide? now wants to lol pair? i mean what's koba's gameplan here other than undermine a chance at playing this correctly.

so yes, sure, you can read it as me wanting to get rid of voices that want to fight me. and you wouldn't be entirely incorrect. but if they are town they've aligned themselves with scum favored play.

[OkaPoka]

either agree with me that today is all about finding 3 top scumreads and putting them a group to be eliminated, and then help me do that. or show why you have discovered a better way to play this and how we should proceed. if you are going to be annoying and argue a provably suboptimal way of playing this and still commit then either you are town scumsiding or scum and either way with a setup like this, dragging you across the victory line is going to be impossible because nobody here is good enough to just find the scum for us and solocarry, and thus you should die.

[OkaPoka]

and remember its 6v3 if two townies are going to scumside then its lost

[unwnd]

What are your reads oka? You're putting a lot of thought into how to win, but I don't know how that should obviously include you

[OkaPoka]

well as it stands my deathpool funny enough is mom + koba + unwnd

truth is there is a certain lack of anything from almost everyone. too many slots too complacent. i suspect less than half of players have fully read the setup and less than half of those understand what should be done. there is a certain feeling of desperation on my end because what we should be deciding in the 4 remaining days is 3 lims. have a buffer day and basically we need to find a lim a day on ms.net.

i am interested in how everyone feels about my current deathpool though, asap. idc if you aren't too confident, opinions change but we should be working towards something. flirting is for the 6p dance phase.

[DkKoba]

im not scumsiding

[OkaPoka]

get with the program then

[unwnd]

I'll agree with your plan once you've given me a reason to think you're town

So far, that hasn't happened

[OkaPoka]

my plan should be good not based on your opinion of me but because of how it stands on its own two legs.

[OkaPoka]

actually, why should your read on me affect my plan? my plan is completely independent of assumptions of x is town or y is scum.

[unwnd]

I cannot on good conscience agree to someone's plan if im unsure of its leader

And what you've been posting isn't really telling of your alignment

[Ydrasse]

i'm pretty sure that putting the 3 scummiest people in a pool and voting them out is... fine?

[Ydrasse]

trying to sort in a hood is always fun in theory and i enjoy it but in practice, specifically to this game, that can just fuck us over if we're not transparent with what we're doing?

[OkaPoka]

if i were confirmed scum my plan is still the best town plan. just assume im confirmed scum, what are the flaws in my plan?

[OkaPoka]

i'm pretty sure that putting the 3 scummiest people in a pool and voting them out is... fine?

this

its not a complex concept

[unwnd]

What if i think oka is Scummy but he assumes leader position and undermines my attempt to read him

Like he's doing now

[Ydrasse]

independently of your read on him, do you think that trying to put 3 scummy people into a team and force-elimming them is bad?

i agree with oka that the plan he has is good, but if he's scum the issue then is to figure out a better pool, not trying to do something else

[OkaPoka]

then just agree with me and suddenly all my powers of leadership disappear ez

you can fight me on the pool issue but im only taking charge of getting everyone to view the game under the optimal lense

[Ydrasse]

we get to make pairs after we elim anyways, so like

we scumhunt, worst case (save for the game ending on a 3 town elim LMAO) we get like, 1 scum or something? pair time, we can gauge how good/useful the pools were after the fact, you can pair up permanently with someone you tr, etc etc

i just dont think trying to do anything other than that plan is good atm

[OkaPoka]

be like ydrasse everyone

[Ydrasse]

my read of oka btw is independent of the plan (ie town)