FFVII Mafia: Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

I wasted my investigation on Xtoxm. He is scum. Confirmed.

Well, now the question is.. would ABR suicide as scum to kill the town cop investigating his scumteam?

I wouldn't exchange two mafia lives for a single cop's.

[wolframnhart]

It doesn't affect my views at all. I am willing to go along with the claimed cop (the one i can believe more) with his guilty investigation. If it turns out Xtoxm lied, then he would be lynched auto next day. While it is true i haven't seen anything truely scummy from Armlx, that doesn't mean he is scum. I have two running games that I would love to link and talk about, but since they are active I can't, and I don't know if giving a summary on what is important about them that affects my views is against the rules I will just leave it be.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do you find Xtoxm suspicious, Wolf ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Would you vote for armlx in ly-lo between you, armlx and xtoxm with one scum among you left ?

[wolframnhart]

I haven't no. I found his behavior very bad (even made a comment on that twice now i think) for a cop, but not scummy. Maybe I am not looking at him correctly but for now I am treating him as a townie until proven otherwise.

Even though I think that you might have lied about your role ABR, i am treating you as townie as well until proven otherwise.

[Yosarian2]

Fact #1: Either Xtoxm or Armlx is scum. It's also possible Xtoxm is some kind of scum day cop who can find members of the other scum team, or something like that, and that they're both scum, but I can't think of any scenerio where neither one is scum.

Fact #2: Either Xtoxm is scum, Albert is scum, or Albert is town lying in order to pull off some obscure gambit. Albert does lie as town, but it dosn't seem likely here, epsecally considering how close Xtoxm was to being lynched even before Albert's claim.

Fact 3: Xtoxm has looked so absurdly scummy all day that I don't even think I need to explain why. Besides that, his claim makes very little sense, although it's just possible he might be able to clarify it if he comes back and finally answers the questions that have been put to him.

Just because of fact 1 alone, I think we need to lynch either Xtoxm or armlx today, period. Fact 2 and fact 3 make me think Xtoxm is a better choice. I guess, if we want to be all patient and stuff, we could wait for Xtoxm to come back and answer those questions and stuff before we make the final decision to lynch either him or armlx. I hate putting a game on hold like that, though, it can be bad for activity, and in this case it just seems like a waste of time.

[armlx]

I am willing to go along with the claimed cop (the one i can believe more) with his guilty investigation.

And this ISN'T ABR?

[wolframnhart]

Right, it isn't ABR, i should have made it more clear, but since I have been saying I can't bring myself to believe ABR, i am going with Xtoxm.

[forbiddanlight]

Unvote: iamusername

Vote: XToxm[/i]

Argh...

HoS:Zac

Have you ever heard of VOTE EXPLANATION?

No technical reason for this vote, just general suspicions that XToxm is Scum.

So you take him to L-1. SUPPORT YOUR VOTE!

[GhostWriter]

Welp, just checked in, and armlx's last post makes a WHOLE lot of sense. I only swapped votes due to a report and not wanting to lynch a cop by accident, but if there's another report, on a player we have all watched play pretty damn scummy, I'm willing to end this day here and now, because I believe Xtoxm is at L-1. Anyone else done with this day, then let me know, and it's over.

Unvote

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[MBPikamon]

Hmm.... well, we got a possible cop saying that Xtomx is a scum, and not a jester. Should I go ahead and hammer him?

[wolframnhart]

And if Xtoxm turns town, with the char he claimed to be, what happens then? Armlx ge lynched day 2?

Also is Xtoxm turns scum, again then what? We really haven't discussed much else.

[GhostWriter]

And if Xtoxm turns town, with the char he claimed to be, what happens then? Armlx ge lynched day 2?

Also is Xtoxm turns scum, again then what? We really haven't discussed much else.

Yes to the first, and for the second, have you seen the amount of Fos's and Hos's being thrown around on players other than either Xtoxm, armlx, or ABR?

[wolframnhart]

They were being thrown yes, but would they truely be damning enough for a real discussion? As it is a few players are very inactive for such a large game. I would hope that there would be a lil more discussion on day 1 before people start hammering. ALso i never really liked it when a person asks if everyone is ok with a hammer, usually means the next day if someone turns town they can use the "You said i could" defense.

[MBPikamon]

They were being thrown yes, but would they truely be damning enough for a real discussion? As it is a few players are very inactive for such a large game. I would hope that there would be a lil more discussion on day 1 before people start hammering. ALso i never really liked it when a person asks if everyone is ok with a hammer, usually means the next day if someone turns town they can use the "You said i could" defense.

Eh, fine. He isn't going to contribute anything anyway for 10 or so days, so, [b\]Vote: Xtomx[/b]

[armlx]

Hmm.... well, we got a possible cop saying that Xtomx is a scum, and not a jester. Should I go ahead and hammer him?

Again the Jester talk.

And if Xtoxm turns town, with the char he claimed to be, what happens then? Armlx ge lynched day 2?

Or vig killed N1.

Also is Xtoxm turns scum, again then what? We really haven't discussed much else.

We analyze the wagon tomorrow and see what else came up. I don't see why that's an issue.

And Wolf, he's not asking if he can hammer. He is saying he is going to and everyone else should speak now or hope they live till tomorrow. Big difference.

[wolframnhart]

Hmm.... well, we got a possible cop saying that Xtomx is a scum, and not a jester. Should I go ahead and hammer him?

Sounds like he is asking to me

[armlx]

Oh, not GW. I thought you meant GhostWriter.

Yeah, what MBP said definitely falls under scummy for that reason. He's on my short list for tomorrow, along with Zac and some more people once I reread how the wagon went down.

[GhostWriter]

Yes, wolf, the FoS's are enough. Also, MBP, that vote, I hope, did not count. Don't you dare correct it.

[MBPikamon]

Pretty sure it didn't count. Meant it as a fake vote.

[armlx]

And faking voting too? The list is getting shorter by the minute.

[Jebus]

I don't remember armlx claiming. I'll go back and look, but if someone could repost that, or if armlx claimed, that would be great.

[armlx]

I haven't claimed.

[Yosarian2]

And if Xtoxm turns town, with the char he claimed to be, what happens then? Armlx ge lynched day 2?

Yup.

Also is Xtoxm turns scum, again then what? We really haven't discussed much else.

Then, based on how everyone reacted to the different stages of the wagon, we try to figure out who his partners are. I think we got lots of information.

Just for the record: the jester thing is stupid. Not that jesters never exist, but if one does, the town STILL wants him dead ASAP, and so lynching him is STILL a pretty good thing for the town. Which is one of the basic flaws of the role, but that's a different discussion.

[Yosarian2]

I don't remember armlx claiming. I'll go back and look, but if someone could repost that, or if armlx claimed, that would be great.

Oh? Why do you think he should claim in this situation?