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[Ydrasse]

[Alisae]

blessed

[NorwegianboyEE]

Obviously VOTE: fark ?

Why is that obvious?

{Luca, Norwee} {Fark} {Day, Lucy}?

You're saying there has to be one scum in me/Luca? Why?
And why do you scumread Farkran?
Why one scum in Day/Lucy?

[Alisae]

because i think 3 scum were on PP?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pooky I'll be interested to hear after the game why you think a vig that acts on N2 implies that a roleblocker that acts on odd nights would have to be disloyal.

I think it makes a little bit of sense though. Because if Day was scum why would he even claim disloyal modifier for odd nights in the first place? It doesn't seem like something scum would just do. And it makes little sense as a scum role in the first place unless it's just a complete lie, but i don't think it is.

Day should claim their action before anything.

Indeed.

[Alisae]

Maybe at least 2
would be surprised if scum didn't participate or only 1 scum participated

[NorwegianboyEE]

because i think 3 scum were on PP?

What an ridiculous assumption, why wouldn't scum be outside of the wagon?

[Alisae]

What an ridiculous assumption

What an ridiculous assumption

What an ridiculous assumption

What an ridiculous assumption

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you going to answer my question?

[Farkran]

Yeah ali what does your read mean? I thought it was a readlist but if it's actually a "x-scum in {y, z} list could you explain how it works?

Pedit: 3 scum on wagon looks like overkill for a compromise so difficult to achieve

Independent of my own scumreads i think 2 scum were probably off

[Something_Smart]

Because if Day was scum why would he even claim disloyal modifier for odd nights in the first place? It doesn't seem like something scum would just do.

It seems like a pretty decent scum fakeclaim to me. It's powerful enough that it incentivizes leaving them alive, but it's unverifiable and not likely to be counterclaimed.

[Menalque]

lol what if it is just (norwee, fark, +1)

[Luca Blight]

Pooky I'll be interested to hear after the game why you think a vig that acts on N2 implies that a roleblocker that acts on odd nights would have to be disloyal.

I can only imagine he was BS’ing to eat the NK, as it makes absolutely no sense

I’ll have to review Day again but his more recent votes felt townie

[Menalque]

I had the exact same thought as Ali and think maybe that makes em town

although if Ali ever does flip scum then I'll bet we're in a world where all the scum were off bar ali

[Menalque]

basically I strongly think that there were min 2 scum on and prob all 3

[Something_Smart]

Regardless, I wasn't objecting to the general claim that Day's role is an unlikely scum fakeclaim. I was objecting to Pooky's claim that Day's role being disloyal makes sense so that it doesn't interfere with Pooky's role.

[Menalque]

fark -> norwee -> day -> ali -> ydra -> Lucy is the order I'd lim them in

[Something_Smart]

I can only imagine he was BS’ing to eat the NK, as it makes absolutely no sense

But he had literally the worst role imaginable to do that with. 100% of his role's utility was in surviving until N2.

[Luca Blight]

Man if I was right about Norwee/Day being scum then I’ll be pissed at Pooky

Especially if Farkran is the third

[Menalque]

Mena before we go on a rehash of d1, elaborate your case against me in light of what i've been engaging with you, i.e. prove me wrong and why i am on the scummy side of wrong

I mean I will but rn pooky pushing you all day, being unable to get a wagon on you, and your terrible stances for the entirety of D1 are enough for me in the meantime

[Menalque]

I will deadsheep you pookster

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd like to hear why though, because when someone just stated "there are x scum in this wagon" without any further elaboration it could easily mean scum are mostly off-wagon and they want us to think scum pushed Penguin, when i mostly townread the slots on there.
Pooky was eliminated and he was on-wagon too. Which points more to scum being off-wagon and maybe even trying to frame Farkran. I don't buy that Farkrans!scum just kills Pooky here.

[Menalque]

it wasn't in vain

[Luca Blight]

I can only imagine he was BS’ing to eat the NK, as it makes absolutely no sense

But he had literally the worst role imaginable to do that with. 100% of his role's utility was in surviving until N2.

Maybe he doesn’t value a vig shot?

I can’t think of any other explanation as it certainly doesn’t imply Day is Town

[Menalque]

because I already scumread a decent section of the wagon and TR half of the people off, where the only possibility if my TRs on Luca and skitter are right are (S_S, chara)

so that seems to support my gut feeling that the wagon was scummy