Explosiva Mafia - GAME OVER

[M4yhem]

Can you explain how it favors scum, for the stupid players like me?

[armlx]

Player A has 0 votes on him.

Elimination happens.

Player A does something really scummy.

Town then.... does nothing as he's no longer a possible kill?

[Battousai]

Three things wrong with it armlx. One, the SCUMMIEST people as defined by us are kept to the last round. Two, after today, there's another day. It's not LYLO. Three, TDC has the final say and if he feels player A is explode worthy, then player A can be exploded.

How is it that agreeing with a method makes me scum? I've been debating whether or not to vote you, I think I will now.

Vote: Armlx

The past two times I tried to post in this thread I get a CPU usage error, and the post gets lost, so I'll just summarize the main points of my last message.

M4hyem, I'm dropping the lynch all suicidal case, because all that's come of it is suspicion on me and I don't want TDC to blow me up as it's a waste of bomb. And so far I'm the only one who would go for that method, so chance of it going into play is highly unlikely.

Armlx: You already have think I'm scum, so everything I do always has a sinister underlying force behind it. Your biased towards me, so your reads are unreliable. Think about it, if anyone else agreed with TDC's deadline method, would you think they were scum or it was a reason to suspect them? I doubt it.

[armlx]

How is it that agreeing with a method makes me scum

The method is pro-scum.

One, the SCUMMIEST people as defined by us are kept to the last round. Two, after today, there's another day.

My point is scumminess can change after a person was excluded in a previous round.

But why wait until the scum can presumably discuss how to get out of it, or other things get in the way, to attack a scummy action with a power backing it?

[DragonsofSummer]

See sig. I am really sorry this reread is taking so long everybody. I finally have a day off tomorrow so I should be able to get it finished then.

[Twomz]

I see nothing wrong with restricting who you are going to blow up, but it seems silly to have it on a deadline...

unvote, vote: K7

I'd rather eliminate players who are hard to figure out early rather than later.

[killa seven]

So you basically just vote people u cant get a read on?

Nice scum hunting.

Seriosuly WOW.

[armlx]

So you basically just vote people u cant get a read on?

Nice scum hunting.

Seriosuly WOW.

This. That's pretty backwards Twomz.

[Twomz]

What do you want me to do? I'm not saying I don't have a read on him now, I'm saying that I will NEVER get a read on him... unless of course I am mistaken in who I think he is.

[the silent speaker]

Still here, still treading posts.

[armlx]

What do you want me to do? I'm not saying I don't have a read on him now, I'm saying that I will NEVER get a read on him... unless of course I am mistaken in who I think he is.

Read > no read.

Get one.

I assume that's the point.

[Haschel Cedricson]

First off, I promise a longer post in no more than 36 hours.

Second, while I agree that TDC's method is flawed, keep in mind that DGB also gave the town a short list.

[M4yhem]

You got a read on K-7, Armlx?

I'd say 'not sure'. He spends half his time joking about wanting to die and the other half attacking anyone who suggests killing him.

Could be omgusy town, could be lurkerscum.

M4yhem, I'm dropping the lynch all suicidal case, because all that's come of it is suspicion on me and I don't want TDC to blow me up as it's a waste of bomb. And so far I'm the only one who would go for that method, so chance of it going into play is highly unlikely.

You can drop it if you want but I'm not going to forget what you said about it and I still consider it a black mark against you.

I want more Alvinz talking.

I'm kinda happy to see Twomz actually giving an opinion without prodding.

[armlx]

Second, while I agree that TDC's method is flawed, keep in mind that DGB also gave the town a short list.

Her short list didn't auto-exclude everyone else.

[armlx]

Also, Haschael, why the hell does it matter what DGB did in context of this?

You got a read on K-7, Armlx?

Actually, contrary to what I said a couple pages ago, I think he is town (slightly) now, based on seeing him as scum not run the "give up" plan.

But my point was the fact Twomz doesn't have a scum read on someone else to go off of is telling.

[DragonsofSummer]

I am up to page 23, but have to go for now. I will currently

vote Battousai

more from me in a few hours.

[armlx]

Mind elaborating why when you come back DoS?

[killa seven]

What do you want me to do? I'm not saying I don't have a read on him now, I'm saying that I will NEVER get a read on him... unless of course I am mistaken in who I think he is.

Who do you think i am?

[forbiddanlight]

Who do you think i am?

Kamina!?

[DragonsofSummer]

Alright reread finished.

My suspect list at this time is (in order):
Battousai
Max
Alvinz

Batt:

I am voting Batt because of the way he pushed DGB yesterday (his questioning of her felt more like an attack to me than just questions on my reread). Then his whole thing with K7 offering to be blown up instead of Tar as a "scum tell". It feels very much like a weak attack on someone trying to push him into a bad light and set up an explosion today (if people had agreed with him obviously) since Tar was pretty much locked in at that point. Also I agree that him specifically stating it was the townie pm is a slip. Last because of his recent thing of Lynch Suicidals because they are scummy.

I don't feel like batt has been legitimately scum hunting at all all game from my reread either, and I don't like his OMGUS on Armlx earlier on this page.

Max- Mostly for the same reasons as yesterday.

Alvinz- I don't feel like he has really built a good case against anybody all game and just keeps throwing suspicions around with little real evidence at all.

AlsoI

vote normal deadline

[M4yhem]

Actually, contrary to what I said a couple pages ago, I think he is town (slightly) now, based on seeing him as scum not run the "give up" plan.

Where?

And just because he didn't do it once doesn't mean he never does it.

But my point was the fact Twomz doesn't have a scum read on someone else to go off of is telling.

Weren't you the guy saying 'but it's Twomz!' every time I suggest this?

Anyway, I think even a half-assed effort to scumhunt is better than his usual nothing.

I'm not sure if I'm pleased or scared that DoS's suspects correlate so closely with the rest of the town's. Either we're collectively on the ball or he's just agreeing in order to blend in.

I'm happy with my vote but if Alvinz doesn't start talking again soon, I'm switching back.

[armlx]

m4yh3m, Random 3

And its a weak example, so only slightly town as I said.

Weren't you the guy saying 'but it's Twomz!' every time I suggest this?

That was like 10 pages ago. I gave him a pass D1, D2.... less so.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Also, Haschael, why the hell does it matter what DGB did in context of this?

Hmm, in context it doesn't. For some reason I thought I could look at people objecting to TDC's plan and then say "Aha! You had no objections to DGB's system, which shared superficial similarities to TDC's! Hypocritical scum!" You're right, though, the systems are too different and aren't really analogous at all.

Anyhoo, I want to

unvote, vote: Crazy

. The recanting of both his vote on M4yh3m and his reaction to TSS's case on DoS seem disingenuous to me, which combined with his withdrawal of his case on forbbidanlight seem scummy to me.

[M4yhem]

That was like 10 pages ago. I gave him a pass D1, D2.... less so.

Does protown-Twomz normally improve his game D2?

[armlx]

Does protown-Twomz normally improve his game D2?

Some, the issue is more page 26 then D2.