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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:42 am

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Reclusion wrote:
I agree that it seems ridiculous but what's scummy about it?
Hope you dont mind if i field this one. It is scummy to try and tie two people together on very shoddy reasoning. Simple as.
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Battle Mage, in Post 216, wrote:And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.

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What about these series of posts makes you think of bussing? Netman isn't even voting for hasdgfas at this current time so how could it possibly be bussing?
You dont need to vote to bus. The whole concept of bussing is trying to get a buddy lynched, by putting pressure on them. That doesnt necessitate a vote. I see more incentive for Netman to bring himself out into the open if he has a buddy in danger, and wants to secure something from it, than if 2 townies are fighting, which would make him look like an idiot. And i've already addressed the lack of a protown motive.

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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:44 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
alvinz95 wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
unvote, vote alvinz


Any reason for voting BM?
No reason. Random.
you do realize we had actually started a little bit of talking and random voting there wasn't really useful at all, right?
I find it rather fishy that Has literally repeated the obvious in a really condescending way. I'm always unnerved by people who make a determined effort to be seen acting in the interests of the town.

And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.

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So you're suspicious of me because I did something that was in the best interest of the town, but I apparently did it "condescendingly"? Aggressive is not the same as condescending.
No, you were definitely being condescending, in my book.

And no, im not suspicious because you did something protown. You DID nothing! But, you said something which the only real result of was to try and paint you in a protown light. Which is scummy.

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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:38 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
alvinz95 wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
unvote, vote alvinz


Any reason for voting BM?
No reason. Random.
you do realize we had actually started a little bit of talking and random voting there wasn't really useful at all, right?
I find it rather fishy that Has literally repeated the obvious in a really condescending way. I'm always unnerved by people who make a determined effort to be seen acting in the interests of the town.

And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.

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So you're suspicious of me because I did something that was in the best interest of the town, but I apparently did it "condescendingly"? Aggressive is not the same as condescending.
No, you were definitely being condescending, in my book.

And no, im not suspicious because you did something protown. You DID nothing! But, you said something which the only real result of was to try and paint you in a protown light. Which is scummy.

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Maybe you thought it was condescending, but that wasn't the intention.
Also, what? How is what I said just to try to look protown? I really hate people who random vote after discussion has started and I almost always get on them about it. How is it scummy?
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:33 am

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Vote: Hasdgfas


Aside from the fact that your name is hard to pronounce (>.<), you really strike me as scum. In particular (though no particular order):

Post 207+210+198 - Pretty much what Netman said.
Post 41 (and 43 as followup) - This is the first post that makes me think BM and Has are related in some way.
Post 170 - Seems faked to me. Could just be the mood of this search, though :/

Noted: Post 121+126 - Goes after Reclusion
Noted: Post 194 - A one liner that is both ironic and flat-out wrong.


So changing my list a bit, I think the mafia includes Hasd, BM, Reclusion, and possibly Yaw. And I'll probably look at BM in a little bit, and Reclusion/Yaw as well.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:59 am

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What? How is the comment in 194 wrong? Have you read Netman's post 191? Did you notice this part of it?
Netman wrote:And yes, I also know that someone 20 pages from now is going to say, "hey, Netman made a post without any content on page 8, let's lynch him"
Netman admits in his own post that it has no content!
How is it then wrong to state about Netman's post something that's explicitly there?

For 207, 210, and 198, Netman has no logic. It's pure bullshit. If you want to nail someone on distancing,
go after the guy that's actually doing it
. Which, if Netman's theory about BM and Cow being scum together were correct, would be BM. (And yes, I have lynched people in the distancee position before based on this, and caught scum that way. But not by analyzing the distancee, because
he's not doing the distancing
.)

Please don't make me bang my head against the keyboard anymore. It's bad for my health.

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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:16 pm

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Jebus wrote:
Vote: Hasdgfas


Aside from the fact that your name is hard to pronounce (>.<)
Cow is fine.

Jebus wrote:Post 207+210+198 - Pretty much what Netman said.
As far as I can tell, Netman was only saying that because he thought I didn't answer the question when I actually did. That just undermines his entire attack on me. In addition, it's terrible logic all the way through. In fact:
unvote, vote: Jebus

If you want the reason, it's because it's a lot scummier to agree with terrible logic than have the terrible logic.
Jebus wrote:Post 41 (and 43 as followup) - This is the first post that makes me think BM and Has are related in some way.
So I answered a question. I wasn't totally sure it was directed at BM when I answered it, plus, it should have been directed at the whole town because BM wasn't the only person to think like that.
Jebus wrote:Post 170 - Seems faked to me. Could just be the mood of this search, though :/
Me questioning a vote on me seems faked? what? mood of the search? What are you talking about?
Jebus wrote:Noted: Post 121+126 - Goes after Reclusion
Going after is a very strong term for what I did.
Jebus wrote:Noted: Post 194 - A one liner that is both ironic and flat-out wrong.
Ironic? what? And it was absolutely correct. Read his post again. It does absolutely nothing for the game. It's just a very long "hi I'm still here" post.

Jebus wrote:So changing my list a bit, I think the mafia includes Hasd, BM, Reclusion, and possibly Yaw. And I'll probably look at BM in a little bit, and Reclusion/Yaw as well.
Please try to remember that A) we haven't even found 1 mafia member yet, B) not everyone who seems a little suspicious is scum, and C) just because people are talking a lot doesn't mean they're scum. Is there a reason you're looking at 4 of the more talkative people as scum?
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:06 pm

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Battlemage, I feel like you're trying to start a fight. Those who have played with Battlemage, is this a scummy move?
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:21 pm

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qwints wrote:Battlemage, I feel like you're trying to start a fight. Those who have played with Battlemage, is this a scummy move?
ABSOLUTELY IT IS.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:28 pm

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Thank you, Mrs. Not Playing In This Mafia Game, for your insights. :P
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:47 pm

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Toaster Strudel wrote:
qwints wrote:Battlemage, I feel like you're trying to start a fight. Those who have played with Battlemage, is this a scummy move?
ABSOLUTELY IT IS.
*sigh* do we have a DGB alt in this game too?
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:31 pm

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What's a DGB alt?
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:21 am

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I believe DGB refers to DrippingGoofBall, but I'm not sure. With the alt, they ask if this is another player name from DGB.

Yes, BM does that ;). That's why I'm a fan. You should know how many players see him as irritating :).

Jebus, how is it scummy for cow to go after Reclusion?
What's wrong with cow asking BM what BM saw wrong with his posts?
You say that post 41 is the
first
post followed by post 43 in which you see BM and cow as partners. Are there any others?
Also if one of your points against cow is that he said the same thing as Netman, then what do you think of Netman. Besides why do you see that as scummy.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:34 am

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Jebus wrote:
Vote: Hasdgfas


Aside from the fact that your name is hard to pronounce (>.<), you really strike me as scum. In particular (though no particular order):

Post 207+210+198 - Pretty much what Netman said.
Post 41 (and 43 as followup) - This is the first post that makes me think BM and Has are related in some way.
Post 170 - Seems faked to me. Could just be the mood of this search, though :/

Noted: Post 121+126 - Goes after Reclusion
Noted: Post 194 - A one liner that is both ironic and flat-out wrong.


So changing my list a bit, I think the mafia includes Hasd, BM, Reclusion, and possibly Yaw. And I'll probably look at BM in a little bit, and Reclusion/Yaw as well.
In other words, you find the main contributors scummy? Do you not think that might be because there is more room for them to stand-out? :P

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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:42 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:
qwints wrote:Battlemage, I feel like you're trying to start a fight. Those who have played with Battlemage, is this a scummy move?
ABSOLUTELY IT IS.
*sigh* do we have a DGB alt in this game too?
I sure hope not.

I too am curious about Jebus's latest post and would be interested in reading her(?) response to the questions raised by a number of people.

We are approaching two weeks into this game now, and I'd like to note that alvinz95, iamausername, killa seven, and Mr_Gnome_It_All all feel extremely low on content. The first three in particular have been posting elsewhere but have been avoiding this game. I'd like to hear more from them.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:53 am

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Jebus is scum. What else do you want?

Seriously, he subscribed to two totally contradictory lines of thought inside the space of one post, and has pointedly ignored all requests to explain himself for this. It's really overshadowing anything anyone else has done, and when he refuses to even make a defence, there's not a lot more I can say.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:40 am

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Mana_Ku wrote:I believe DGB refers to DrippingGoofBall, but I'm not sure. With the alt, they ask if this is another player name from DGB.

Yes, BM does that ;). That's why I'm a fan. You should know how many players see him as irritating :).

Jebus, how is it scummy for cow to go after Reclusion?
What's wrong with cow asking BM what BM saw wrong with his posts?
You say that post 41 is the
first
post followed by post 43 in which you see BM and cow as partners. Are there any others?
Also if one of your points against cow is that he said the same thing as Netman, then what do you think of Netman. Besides why do you see that as scummy.

I never said it was scummy, I just noted it, as in it may be relevant later, though not so much now.
As for 41 (followup 43), yes there are others, which I'll post in a moment.
Also, I never said Cow said the same thing as Netman, I said that the reason for why those posts are scummy is pretty much what Netman said.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:57 am

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BM:

Post 26 - Not much really, just anxiety. Eagerness to play because of good role, or just to play. I can't really count this at all, for that reason.
Post 31 (followup post 32+33+34+~35) - Introduces minor possibility of being a scum team with cow.
Post 169 - Refers back to Cow's post 95 > Seems odd in general.


Questions:
Post 52 - by your alt?


And in general, his posts just seem (I can't think of the word >.<)... inconsistent (?). I dunno. Weird in general.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:59 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:
qwints wrote:Battlemage, I feel like you're trying to start a fight. Those who have played with Battlemage, is this a scummy move?
ABSOLUTELY IT IS.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:48 pm

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Vote: Jebus


I don't buy your accusations. I think you're describing the posts poorly. You're throwing mud and hoping some will stick, and then retreating whenever someone calls you on it.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:21 pm

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Jebus wrote: @MK - alvinz seemed to be sweating in his post at the top of this page, but that's not really worthy of a vote in my eyes.

A semi-educated guess as to this games mafia would be BM, Reclusion, and Yaw, though I doubt that'd really lead to much. I'm not exactly sure alvinz strikes me as maf, but meh, it's too early to tell.


BM just strikes me as a mobster, you seem a little anxious, and Yaw a little rambunctious. Why I'm not sure alvinz is mafia-ish, is because he seems like a nervous townie.

I didn't vote because I wasn't 100% sure of it. And I'm still not.

I didn't vote because I wasn't 100% sure of it. And I'm still not.
And I don't need to be 100% sure to vote, I just want to feel like I'm close.
Talk about wishy-washy.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:17 am

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4th Vote Count

alvinz95-3(Mr_Gnome_It_All,hascow,Reclusion)

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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:42 am

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Hey guys - This is going to be my last post for about 10 days. Can't check new posts right now, about to go out, see friends for the last time etc ;)
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:12 am

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iamausername, in Post 239, wrote:Jebus is scum. What else do you want?

Seriously, he subscribed to two totally contradictory lines of thought inside the space of one post, and has pointedly ignored all requests to explain himself for this. It's really overshadowing anything anyone else has done, and when he refuses to even make a defence, there's not a lot more I can say.
Okay, just because you think you've found scum already doesn't mean you get a free pass for the rest of the day. Any further poking, prodding, questioning of players, and analysis is much appreciated if you're town.

P.S. Interesting time stamp. Why were you able to post something almost instantaneously when I mentioned your name?

@Jebus,
is Post 241 a case against BM or something completely different?
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That's a huge block of time. I'll certainly be looking forward to your analysis of the game when you finally return.
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:43 am

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Unvote; Vote: Jebus
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:41 am

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meh sorry about recent inactivity. will get to this game soon hopefully!

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