Open 87 - Baby Too Much Scum - Over before 641

armlx · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:20 pm

Unvote

.

As to not just leave someone chilling at L-1.

farside22 · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:27 pm

Wow that prod lit a fire under people's butt.

vote count:

crazy 1 vote (Grimmy)
Grimmy 2 votes: (crazy, Mencellator)

not voting:

Goatrevolt
armlx
skitzer

Day 2 deadline September 20th, 9:00am PST
With 6 people it takes 4 to lynch

Grimmy · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:13 am

quick note: Off jury duty and will be back on monday

Grimmy
dont kill me until then por favor

armlx · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:06 am

Vote Mencellator

Maybe this will speed up a response from him.

Mencellator · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:26 am

Didn't mean to cause panic, I didn't realise I was the penultimate voter.

armlx wrote:
Not just because Crazy and Arm are voting but I was planning on voting Grimmy anyway.
Reasons?

Well I guess I've been suspecting Grimmy since day one. Do you want specific reasons?

Crazy · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:40 am

Mencellator wrote:Well I guess I've been suspecting Grimmy since day one. Do you want specific reasons?

I'd bet that would be a good idea.

armlx · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:16 pm

Yeah, specific reasons.

Grimmy · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:40 am

yes please. you know...as im already on the staircase that leads to the noose, this would be helpful

Grimmy
does not wish to swing in the breeze

Grimmy · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:42 am

Crazy seems even more suspicous now.

crazy agrees in post 399 that having me at L-1 so quickly is scary, but does not unvote.

crazy, what about my vote on oman makes me suspicious?

Grimmy · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:44 am

edit/ps

it also bother me that crazy put a vote on me soon after I posted that I would be away. Voting for me knowing I would be away and couldnt defend myself seems scummy.

Armlx put a vote on me, but did not hesitate to unvote when it got too close.

Goatrevolt · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:21 am

I'll be honest, I'm starting to suspect armlx/crazy as the mafia team.

armlx · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:56 am

Armlx put a vote on me, but did not hesitate to unvote when it got too close.

And that's a bad thing? Leaving someone chilling at L-1 after their wagon grows to that in less then 5 posts is beyond iffy.

Crazy · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:01 am

Grimmy wrote:Crazy seems even more suspicous now.

crazy agrees in post 399 that having me at L-1 so quickly is scary, but does not unvote.

crazy, what about my vote on oman makes me suspicious?

I don't mind having people at L-1, strangely. You'd have to be an idiot scum to actually hammer like that. And then said idiot scum would just be killed by the SK, unless if they were the SK. But an SK wouldn't even want to hammer, because that forces him to kill mafia tonight.

As for your vote, let me see:

Grimmy wrote:Also, fos oman and Goat

In this arguement, one or both of you are scum. I see different reasons for an either/or case, so I am FOS'ing both to make my intentions known that I find your many parts of the arguement between you two as scummy. Crazy chiming in to this arguement added to his guiltiness too (if truthiness can be a word, so should Guiltiness!)

Here, you're saying what? That because two people argue, one of them must be scum? I've seen several times when two people argue and they were both town. And if you seriously believed that one of Oman/Goat had to be scum, why didn't you come in at the start of Day 2 with a vote on Goat, or at least a case on him?

Grimmy wrote:Unvote, Vote: Oman

He was on my suspicion list, and since I wont be around for the deadline, im voting him as he seems to be the likely lynch candidate for the day.

When you vote him, you say nothing more. I understand that the pressure of the deadline forced you to vote for someone, but I'd find this less suspicious if you actually had a case on Oman to begin with.

Grimmy wrote: it also bother me that crazy put a vote on me soon after I posted that I would be away. Voting for me knowing I would be away and couldnt defend myself seems scummy.

Well, the mod mass prodded; I felt I had to do something to start discussion. Even if you couldn't get back on for a day or two, at least it would add a little life back into the game.

armlx · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:06 am

You'd have to be an idiot scum to actually hammer like that.

Not true in the slightest.

Crazy · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:11 am

armlx wrote:
You'd have to be an idiot scum to actually hammer like that.
Not true in the slightest.

Look at the player list:

Mencellator - was already on the wagon
Goatrevolt - said "I suggest no hammer"
Grimmy - wasn't gonna hammer himself
Crazy - was already on the wagon
armlx - was already on the wagon
skitzer - hasn't even posted since September 5

Seriously, armlx, who were you expecting to hammer? In this case, L-1 means nothing.

armlx · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:12 am

Fair enough on that. Its just a reflex to the scenario.

Grimmy · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:17 am

armlx wrote:
Armlx put a vote on me, but did not hesitate to unvote when it got too close.
And that's a bad thing? Leaving someone chilling at L-1 after their wagon grows to that in less then 5 posts is beyond iffy.

no. Im comparing you and crazy, and this factor puts crazy in the scum category, while it pushed you more towards townie.

Crazy · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:01 pm

Grimmy wrote:
armlx wrote:
Armlx put a vote on me, but did not hesitate to unvote when it got too close.
And that's a bad thing? Leaving someone chilling at L-1 after their wagon grows to that in less then 5 posts is beyond iffy.
no. Im comparing you and crazy, and this factor puts crazy in the scum category, while it pushed you more towards townie.

Yes, although I have just shown that my not unvoting was plenty justified.

Mencellator · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:43 pm

armlx wrote:Yeah, specific reasons.

Well, OhGodMyLife was always lurky and whenever he did speak up he seemed to just be switching about and going along with every wagon,

OhGodMyLife wrote:Wow.

I am no longer enthralled by the my goatrevolt vote. However, the wagon on him was most informative.

Unvote, Vote: Crazy

Of course when Grimmy replaced, he couldn't easily speak for OGML's actions and so it has never really been answered. And I don't find Grimmy as scummy.
Grimmy did throw a lot of FoS about on Oman/Goat and Crazy over the Oman/Goat argument, and he was pretty confident one of them was guilty with "different reasons for an either/or case".
I can picture Grimmy covering for SK.

I find it odd how Arm follows Crazy's vote and votes Grimmy with absolutely no reason, and then immediately questions my reasoning for my own vote.

armlx wrote:Seems fair.

Vote Grimmy

Gogo wagon Rangers!

armlx wrote:
Not just because Crazy and Arm are voting but I was planning on voting Grimmy anyway.
Reasons?

Grimmy · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:40 am

Mencelator. Please answer the question instead of avoiding it.
what are your reason(s) for voting for the sexiest person in this game? (Grimmy

)

armlx · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:14 am

Well, OhGodMyLife was always lurky and whenever he did speak up he seemed to just be switching about and going along with every wagon,

And he was then replaced, which nulls the lurky part.

And I don't find Grimmy as scummy

ORLY?

find it odd how Arm follows Crazy's vote and votes Grimmy with absolutely no reason

This game needed a wagon to progress. I saw nothing that indicated Grimmy was necessarily town, and as such it wasa good place to start.

Mencellator · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:36 am

Grimmy wrote:Mencelator. Please answer the question instead of avoiding it.

Are you serious?

armlx wrote: And he was then replaced, which nulls the lurky part.

Nothing can null the fact that he was lurky in the first place. I don't see how you could possibly mean that.

armlx wrote:
And I don't find Grimmy as scummy
ORLY?

Ya rly.

armlx wrote: This game needed a wagon to progress. I saw nothing that indicated Grimmy was necessarily town, and as such it wasa good place to start.

Yes, I don't see anything wrong with your vote, that wasn't my point at all. It's just that you were so eager to question my reasons despite the fact you hadn't provided any of your own.

armlx · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:55 am

Nothing can null the fact that he was lurky in the first place. I don't see how you could possibly mean that.

Umm, the fact he was replaced can, which implies that he simply didn't have time...

Straight up lurking is rarely a scum tell anyways, and more of a "doesn't have time tell"

It's just that you were so eager to question my reasons despite the fact you hadn't provided any of your own.

Putting someone at L-1 without reasons carries a lot more weight then a second vote.

farside22 · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:32 am

Deadline is less then 36 hours!!!

Crazy · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:13 am

Oh, crap, I didn't realize the deadline was so soon.

At this point, I would support a wagon of either Grimmy or Mencellator.

Grimmy for reasons I said earlier.

Mencellator because his response to armlx's questioning is pretty bad, especially since he didn't cite any reasons for his vote on Grimmy except the ones I had just mentioned...

And again, he just mentioned Grimmy being likely to be the SK, which just makes me think that Mencellator is mafia.

Actually, I think I'd prefer a Mencellator-lynch.

Unvote, Vote Mencellator