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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:45 pm

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DGB: To me, a claim such as that there is equal chance they are scum or telling the truth. So in order for me to decide which, I look at what they post and when they post it and see if their actions lean scum or town. If it leans scum then I won't hesitate to lynch because 1) they could be scum and 2) they don't win with the town.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:52 pm

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malthusis wrote:Before I even start reasoning about voting Nat, I want to know about why she called be a lying scumbag.
It was the whole double voting thing. I think we went over this in the PMs I sent you. Tarhalindur, however, made my case null.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:18 pm

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Point of Order!

"Asking someone when they stopped believing in Santa Claus is such an inane question that it doesn't even qualify for idle conversation. But if you're asking me when I stopped believing that the old man wearing the red costume was Santa, then I can confidently say: I have never believed in Santa, ever."


The Thirty-Seventh Vote Count (aka the "404 Error: Sanity Not Found" Vote Count):


Vote Count:

iamausername (0)
malthusis (1) - DragonsofSummer
Cyberbob (0)
DrippingGoofball (2) - Natirasha, Battousai
DragonsofSummer (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Natirasha (0)
Battousai (0)

Not Voting (6): iamausername, malthusis, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, MafiaSSK

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:

iamausername (0)
malthusis (0)
Cyberbob (0)
DrippingGoofball (0)
DragonsofSummer (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Natirasha (0)
Battousai (0)

Not FoS'ing (8) - iamausername, malthusis, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, DragonsofSummer, MafiaSSK, Natirasha, Battousai

Current Deadline:
???

End Point of Order!
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:29 am

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Battousai wrote:DGB: To me, a claim such as that there is equal chance they are scum or telling the truth.
I don't agree with that.

I also like to lynch any player that claims to be un-nightkillable.

Also, lynch all millers.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:38 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Battousai wrote:DGB: To me, a claim such as that there is equal chance they are scum or telling the truth.
I don't agree with that.

I also like to lynch any player that claims to be un-nightkillable.

Also, lynch all millers.
Where did I claim unkillable?

And since when am I a miller.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:05 pm

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I think one of DGB's, I guess rules, would be to lynch all players who claim to be millers, un-nightkillable, and/or a third party role. You fall under the latter.

MafiaSSK: Could you give us some opinions on players? Off the top of my head I don't recall you taking too much of a stand against any one player.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:21 pm

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Point of Order!

"The time has come, the Walrus said, to speak of many things: of shoes, of ships, of sealing wax... of cabbages and kings... of why the sea is boiling hot, and whether pigs have wings."


The Thirty-Eighth Vote Count (aka the "I've Never Blown Up A Star Before" Vote Count):


Vote Count:

iamausername (0)
malthusis (1) - DragonsofSummer
Cyberbob (0)
DrippingGoofball (2) - Natirasha, Battousai
DragonsofSummer (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Natirasha (0)
Battousai (0)

Not Voting (6): iamausername, malthusis, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, MafiaSSK

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:

iamausername (0)
malthusis (0)
Cyberbob (0)
DrippingGoofball (0)
DragonsofSummer (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Natirasha (0)
Battousai (0)

Not FoS'ing (8) - iamausername, malthusis, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, DragonsofSummer, MafiaSSK, Natirasha, Battousai

Current Deadline:
???

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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:13 pm

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Really, is no one going to call me on my massive lurking in this game? It's been pretty criminal. Anyway, I did a reread of all the currently living players in light of the knowledge of Wall-E's alignment, and I'm going with malthusis as scum.

Starts with a random vote on Wall-E, OH BOY!

Oh, and a random FoS on him too? You sure did want to get that early distancing down, huh? Also,
SUGGESTS THAT WALL-E IS A JESTER! HI I'M A BIG FLASHING BLARING ALARM LIGHT/BELL COMBO ALERTING YOU TO THE OBVIOUS FACT THAT MALTHUSIS AND WALL-E ARE SCUM TOGETHER!


In here, he tries to feign ignorance about the double voter, even though he knows it's him, and everybody else knows it's him, because it's obviously him. This is not scummy, per se, but it's kind of odd.

Post #140. I sure love it when people say things like "Let's get back to scumhunting!" when they have never made any attempt at doing anything of the sort themselves.
This post is also where he explains how his FoS is actually a vote. Normally I'd expect a doublevoter to be likely pro-town, but in this game, not so much. And the nature of it if inherently deceitful, since he could very well have kept it hidden (and indeed tried to, for a while), which seems like a scum-oriented ability.

This post, on Page 7, is the first malthusis post you could really describe as having any attempt at scumhunting.

Uh. I don't understand why "I'm sure scum will claim my role name" is a
bad
thing, since it would find you one lying scumbag right there. I also don't think it is remotely likely, and I think this was a totally fabricated reason to be against the mass origin claim, because he didn't want to narrow down his fakeclaiming options.

Hops between Jebus (now confirmed town by death) and DoS (cleared by DGB; likely town) towards the end of D1, which appears to depend entirely on which has the bigger wagon at the time.

LOL, I wonder why.

And again.

Definite
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:16 pm

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DGB, why don't you do a lie detector test on Nat, if you're concerned that he's lying about his alignment?

I don't think he is, because I can't see why he'd draw so much attention to himself, as scum, when he could easily have blended in with the townies, on the pretty good chance that you'd never good around to checking him.

Also, why did you wait until D2 to start attacking Natirasha based on his claim?
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:19 am

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Battousai wrote: MafiaSSK: Could you give us some opinions on players? Off the top of my head I don't recall you taking too much of a stand against any one player.
Anything that pops out at me I say. However, from the top of my head my scum list is porbably Malt>You>DGB>Cyberbob(For lurking)>DoS>Natirasha.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:19 am

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MafiaSSK wrote:
Battousai wrote: MafiaSSK: Could you give us some opinions on players? Off the top of my head I don't recall you taking too much of a stand against any one player.
Anything that pops out at me I say. However, from the top of my head my scum list is porbably Malt>You>DGB>Cyberbob(For lurking)>DoS>Natirasha>iamausername.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:00 am

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iamausername wrote:DGB, why don't you do a lie detector test on Nat, if you're concerned that he's lying about his alignment?

I don't think he is, because I can't see why he'd draw so much attention to himself, as scum, when he could easily have blended in with the townies, on the pretty good chance that you'd never good around to checking him.
He's already admitted it, what's the point of testing him?
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:02 am

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When did Wall-E die??? I just checked the OP and he was scum. K. Analysis coming up.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:11 am

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Question: who was Wall-W mason???
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:39 am

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I don't think there was a player called wall-w in this game :P, but wall-e is mason with..... an unknown player.

Mafiassk: Any reasoning for your top 3?
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:48 am

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Moar voets foar DGB, kk?
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:12 am

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Battousai wrote:
Mafiassk: Any reasoning for your top 3?
Malt for his scummy posts. Then the other two just for their attitudes I suppose.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:04 pm

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Saying scummy posts in one thing, but could you give us something to look at that you interpret as scummy?
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:08 pm

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MafiaSSK wrote:
Battousai wrote:
Mafiassk: Any reasoning for your top 3?
Malt for his scummy posts. Then the other two just for their attitudes I suppose.
Then why is username at the bottom of your list.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:17 pm

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Starts with a random vote on Wall-E, OH BOY!
How is that scummy?(or, how does it relate to this)?
Oh, and a random FoS on him too? You sure did want to get that early distancing down, huh? Also, SUGGESTS THAT WALL-E IS A JESTER! HI I'M A BIG FLASHING BLARING ALARM LIGHT/BELL COMBO ALERTING YOU TO THE OBVIOUS FACT THAT MALTHUSIS AND WALL-E ARE SCUM TOGETHER!
It was PAGE 3.I was just did the Jester thing to get some conversation on.
In here, he tries to feign ignorance about the double voter, even though he knows it's him, and everybody else knows it's him, because it's obviously him. This is not scummy, per se, but it's kind of odd.

Post #140. I sure love it when people say things like "Let's get back to scumhunting!" when they have never made any attempt at doing anything of the sort themselves.
This post is also where he explains how his FoS is actually a vote. Normally I'd expect a doublevoter to be likely pro-town, but in this game, not so much. And the nature of it if inherently deceitful, since he could very well have kept it hidden (and indeed tried to, for a while), which seems like a scum-oriented ability.

The reason I revealed my ability (which I was hoping to hide for a while longer) is that it was distracting the town (we practically spent a page of fiddling with random things).

Hops between Jebus (now confirmed town by death) and DoS (cleared by DGB; likely town) towards the end of D1, which appears to depend entirely on which has the bigger wagon at the time.

Where have you seen DGB say that DoS is cleared? All he's been saying that we should kill Nat over and over again.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:18 pm

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Point of Order!

"You're dead, but you're alive, but you can't talk? That doesn't make sense."


The Thirty-Ninth Vote Count (aka the "Weapon of Mass Financial Destruction" Vote Count):


Vote Count:

iamausername (0)
malthusis (2) - DragonsofSummer, iamausername
Cyberbob (0)
DrippingGoofball (3) - Natirasha, Battousai
DragonsofSummer (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Natirasha (0)
Battousai (0)

Not Voting (5): malthusis, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, MafiaSSK

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:

iamausername (0)
malthusis (1)
Cyberbob (0)
DrippingGoofball (0)
DragonsofSummer (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Natirasha (0)
Battousai (0)

Not FoS'ing (8) - iamausername, malthusis, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, DragonsofSummer, MafiaSSK, Natirasha, Battousai

Current Deadline:
???

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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:31 pm

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Hi again guys. I'm sorry to say I won't be able to post anything substantive until tomorrow night (my time), as this last week of term has been especially hectic. Rest assured, though, that I have been reading and I have been thinking. :P
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:29 pm

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malthusis wrote:Where have you seen DGB say that DoS is cleared? All he's been saying that we should kill Nat over and over again.
DoS is cleared. Now we can kill Natirasha.

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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:30 pm

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Point of Order!

"Sanity is wasted on the sane."


The Fortieth Vote Count (aka the "You're On the Clock" Vote Count):


Vote Count:

iamausername (0)
malthusis (2) - DragonsofSummer, iamausername
Cyberbob (0)
DrippingGoofball (3) - Natirasha, Battousai
DragonsofSummer (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Natirasha (0)
Battousai (0)

Not Voting (5): malthusis, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, MafiaSSK

Votes required to lynch: ???


FoS Count:

iamausername (0)
malthusis (1)
Cyberbob (0)
DrippingGoofball (0)
DragonsofSummer (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Natirasha (0)
Battousai (0)

Not FoS'ing (8) - iamausername, malthusis, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, DragonsofSummer, MafiaSSK, Natirasha, Battousai

Current Deadline:
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:40 pm

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Tarhalindur wrote:
The Fortieth Vote Count (aka the "You're On the Clock" Vote Count):
Deadline is nearby.
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