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[Rannygazoo]

Pagetop

[Rannygazoo]

Why is El making a big deal out of me wanting Zuko to post or be replaced before acting on that slot, when this post exists?

We can elim Saudade today but there’s no rush. Let the replacement for Zuko enter the game first

[Rannygazoo]

VC 2.12

Saudade (4)

- DeathNote, NoPowerOverMe, Cook, Elements, Luca Blight, Rannygazoo

(GANKED)

OopsieDaisy (2)

- Datisi

Elements (1)

- OopsieDaisy

NoPowerOverMe(1)

- Saudade

Not Voting (3)

- Prince Zuko, Salsabil Faria

I think Rannygazoo is most likely Town. I'll go into why later. Elements is probably Town as well. If there's a busser then it's most likely NPOM, but possibly DeathNote. The lack of resistance to the wagon + Saudade's apathetic attitude points to him being hard-bussed.

It's also possible he just had inactive partners and was resigned to losing the game, in which case I'd say Daisy and Firebringer are likely to be his partners. I *think* Datisi and Salsa are Town, but I'll need to review again.

You never went into why later iirc.

Can you tell us what you were thinking then regarding me and El, and what changed?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Finished Phase 1 of my wiki.

[Rannygazoo]

At this point I believe Datisi is Town and I’m willing to let him decide this elim.

Possibly NPOM is cleared? If that’s the case then eliminating Rannygazoo + elements guarantees a win fmpov. Right now I honestly have no idea which one is more likely to be scum.

This is less solvey than I’ve come to expect from you.

I think it's pretty understandable in the context of having two potential clears.

I just finished a game where I was in this exact position, with there being a conftown in a 4T v 1S scenario, and I said the exact same. When I'm not sure who is scum I am always

fine letting the conftown decide

, especially when I trust that player's judgement.

I can't get over how weird this is. How is this the same player that said

Okie I did it! Read list time :3

Cook/Shigaraki:
Lumping these two together because they’ve both claimed cop and haven’t shown any signs of backing off of it. Vote me over these peeps please.

I get they have claimed cop, but

from your perspective you should be conftown, so I really don't get this mindset

. It feels like some deliberate reverse-psychology.

(Bolding mine in both quotes)

I'm starting to think that Luca is doing the exact thing he's accusing me of. Shading me so if we elim El, he has space to win on ELO.

It's just so inconsistent with what I've seen from Luca on previous days.

[Rannygazoo]

Anyone else think Luca is acting weird or am I OMGUSing?

[Datisi]

i don't see the issue between those two lines

[Rannygazoo]

Finished Phase 1 of my wiki.

Hey Datisi, I saw you were in the game where NPOM rolled scum. Do you have any m*ta insights to share?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I think he's acting weird, I am going to meta.

[Rannygazoo]

i don't see the issue between those two lines

Day 1: "It's weird that you defer to a slot with higher utility (cop claims), since you should be conftown from your own perspective."

Day later: "I defer to this slot with higher utility (conftown unless ninja or ascetic or we're just plain misinterpreting DN), even though I'm conftown from my perspective."

[Datisi]

i shared my meta (it's ok deathnote can't hurt us anymore) insights from that game back in 327.

[NoPowerOverMe]

[Quote=Luca Blight]Tchill, you can’t afford Gobble to be lynched because the game would be up. That’s probably why you asked A50 to replace out as he wasn’t game enough and was heading towards a Lynch.

Anyway this is pointless. I know you’re scum, you know I’m Town. It’s up for Klick to decide.[/quote]

Mini Normal 2095, he was town in this game.

[Datisi]

i don't see the issue between those two lines

Day 1: "It's weird that you defer to a slot with higher utility (cop claims), since you should be conftown from your own perspective."

Day later: "I defer to this slot with higher utility (conftown unless ninja or ascetic or we're just plain misinterpreting DN), even though I'm conftown from my perspective."

the difference is that daisy's head was on the line and she wasn't trying to defend herself. here i'm very much saying that luca is town and we're deciding between the three of you. come on.

[NoPowerOverMe]

My instinct says scum!Elements.

If I swerve from that it will be against gut.

[Datisi]

Mini Normal 2095

[NoPowerOverMe]

huh?

[Datisi]

i was in that game too
it was not a fun time
don't worry about it

[Rannygazoo]

i don't see the issue between those two lines

Day 1: "It's weird that you defer to a slot with higher utility (cop claims), since you should be conftown from your own perspective."

Day later: "I defer to this slot with higher utility (conftown unless ninja or ascetic or we're just plain misinterpreting DN), even though I'm conftown from my perspective."

the difference is that daisy's head was on the line and she wasn't trying to defend herself. here i'm very much saying that luca is town and we're deciding between the three of you. come on.

That shouldn't matter. Town should be able to think for themselves and solve even if there's heat on them.

[Datisi]

can you do the short self-town case

[Rannygazoo]

Sigh. I don't really know what you mean.

[Datisi]

i don't see the issue between those two lines

Day 1: "It's weird that you defer to a slot with higher utility (cop claims), since you should be conftown from your own perspective."

Day later: "I defer to this slot with higher utility (conftown unless ninja or ascetic or we're just plain misinterpreting DN), even though I'm conftown from my perspective."

the difference is that daisy's head was on the line and she wasn't trying to defend herself. here i'm very much saying that luca is town and we're deciding between the three of you. come on.

That shouldn't matter. Town should be able to think for themselves and solve even if there's heat on them.

i mean that's what he said, daisy should've been solving and not deferring to the cop claims

if you're arguing "yes but luca should be solving here now" like ok i can show you at least 2 examples where town!him deferred to conftowns in similar situations so what are we arguing about here

like it feels like you're trying to open up the luca elim

but like i have zero interest in thinking about it if your arguments are vague mafia theory

[Datisi]

what i asked of ele and npom earlier today

give me a short bullet point case on why you yourself are town

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm not towning myself, do your own work.

[NoPowerOverMe]

nm I misunderstood.

[Datisi]

i hold your life in my hands npom you should be more polite