Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[olaf]

He hasn't had a single towntell since the number of votes increased.

clidd can you explain what you consider a 'towntell'?

[Starcrossed]

you know who Nancy and Titus are
last game you loved interacting with the stumps

Hectic has a special place in my heart that Titus can never occupy :/

[Pink Ball]

Morning Tweet
War and Peace
Starcrossed
Fey
Dunnstral
Gamma
Toogeloo
And you're going to fucking hate me for this but
Italiano
5uffering

Yup, I think we're hitting town today.
Biggest scumread is AkAri still so I'm happy my first impression was right
If AkAri flips scum, Sherlock and Watson are scum too.
I want to read Pyro/olaf closer but I think Battle Mage being pushed on D1 to oblivion is more related to his read on Pyro than Noraa's push on him, 'cause Noraa's case was bullshit.

TBD:
Morty and Rick is someone I want to townread but don't want to call a townread before reading his early presence. I would expect Auro to lead the game a little more 'cause he's a pain in the ass as town, we share that trait. I liked what I saw from mastina last time I checked, with the Titus draft analysis. I expect her to approach the game like that to get engaged as either alignment, but the conclusions seemed genuine and not trying to push a rethoric to start aligning miseliminations.

clidd is in my blind spot right now but shouldn't be a problem. I do think that, because of personality traits, Titus would work very well with someone like clidd, but I don't have an in game read right now so I'll leave the speculation for when I actually read clidd's ISO.

I already suggested that there's at least one of Nancy's protégés that will flip scum. Now that I know that Ari is scum I think it could be not one, but two, with Sarah being my best guess. But look at that, it's the word guess! What that does mean? Well, that I have absolutely nothing to back that read up other than disliking the whole "V I B I N G" sharade 'cause it feels like Sarah is just posturing; waited until the game was settled in, saw what Nancy's approach was and began to create the perfect mindmeld with the townstump. Based on the current gamestate where I think we're pushing three town wagons, this is currently a very promising theory, but then again, it depends too much on other slots' reads, so it's not good enough by its own.

And that's the entire list. 9 towns, 3 scums, 3 nulls. Since AkAri is scum and that spews S&W scum, I'll say that if I'm wrong in one of my scumreads, it's olaf. If I'm right about the three of them, I'd tend to think clidd is the last one because hey I'm on a roll so let's keep going and pretend my townreads are all correct and I'm a big star! But if I'm wrong on olaf, which there's a high chance I am, I'd look again in my townreads to see where could I be wrong. The list is in no particular order, I started writting them based on the playerlist on post 0 and then went by memory so it's messy. But I would have to read 5uffering's ISO which is something I've been avoiding to do. Charlie and Snoopy was townie enough to make me believe that there's no need to read his entire ISO, but since I wasn't here early game, it could be me putting too much weight without context/real time reading.

I'm going to sleep now. My next step is making AkAri's scumcase. Thanks to everyone for the 24 hours, now I feel more part of the game and have a better shot of being helpful.

If you still want to end the day by elimming one of Italiano/Gamma/5uffering, by all means, go for it. I don't know who has more chances of being scum of the three of them; I think Italiano's frustration towards Nancy and the other two points I already brought up are good enough to make me think he's town. Although I disagreed at first, I think Toog's point about Gamma is very possibly true: chiming in about Noraa's replacement was impulsive, and keep going for it was prideful, two things I would expect Gamma would try to avoid; I don't remember who said it 'cause I read too damn much right now, but said that Gamma looked like he was trying to be careful about his reads, only commenting on current conversations but not giving insights of his own/scumhunting; well, this impulsiveness is the opposite of that. Then again, that is a valid reason to scumread someone, so now that I'm writting this lines, if you want to go with this PoE, I'd eliminate Gamma ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Charlie and Snoopy had only 15 posts to say what they thought and they are all fully packed with insights, reading the game with a town mindset. My only concern is the lack of an actual vote, 'cause he called out a lot of players for different reasons but didn't stick with any, so it seems like leaving their options open.

So as you can see, I'm not really concerned if you want to flip Gamma/5uffer. I agree with everyone who has said that they could be useful flips. BUT, if you do want to wait to see what I want to say about AkAri, that would be even better! A useful flip that could go either way is still worse than an actual scum flip, even more when, from my perspective, those useful flips, even if useful, are still most likely town.

Once again, thanks for the 24ish hours. Good night. Papa bless.

[olaf]

VOTE: Red Eye Knights

[Pink Ball]

i definitely wouldn't lim Morty today Nancy
he's mostly just there as a prediction even though I townread him
the gist for clidd is i think he's saying things he doesn't believe in and playing up the confident/commanding act
War and Peace has samantha playing to a tee to her scummeta while Ircher had some really bad moments early on
like i said i'm not gonna scumcase any of them right now
either in a few days if we're somehow still on this day
or day 2 if we flip someone

My initial solve was 5uffering, Italiano, Gamma, W & P.

I think this is why Titus is so eager to end the day by the way. All town in my eyes.

[olaf]

Agree on the first 3

[Pink Ball]

VOTE: Red Eye Knights

Aww are you really going to make me reevaluate you this soon

[olaf]

you're a silly floof for doubting me
the only tinfoil reason i have to think that hydra is town is because Ari hates scum so why would Akarin invite him knowing that
but idk if that's dumb angleshooting lol
i agree their content is very lacklustre and absence is sus

[Nancy Drew 39]

Morning Tweet
War and Peace
Starcrossed
Fey
Dunnstral
Gamma
Toogeloo
And you're going to fucking hate me for this but
Italiano
5uffering

Yup, I think we're hitting town today.
Biggest scumread is AkAri still so I'm happy my first impression was right
If AkAri flips scum, Sherlock and Watson are scum too.
I want to read Pyro/olaf closer but I think Battle Mage being pushed on D1 to oblivion is more related to his read on Pyro than Noraa's push on him, 'cause Noraa's case was bullshit.

TBD:
Morty and Rick is someone I want to townread but don't want to call a townread before reading his early presence. I would expect Auro to lead the game a little more 'cause he's a pain in the ass as town, we share that trait. I liked what I saw from mastina last time I checked, with the Titus draft analysis. I expect her to approach the game like that to get engaged as either alignment, but the conclusions seemed genuine and not trying to push a rethoric to start aligning miseliminations.

clidd is in my blind spot right now but shouldn't be a problem. I do think that, because of personality traits, Titus would work very well with someone like clidd, but I don't have an in game read right now so I'll leave the speculation for when I actually read clidd's ISO.

I already suggested that there's at least one of Nancy's protégés that will flip scum. Now that I know that Ari is scum I think it could be not one, but two, with Sarah being my best guess. But look at that, it's the word guess! What that does mean? Well, that I have absolutely nothing to back that read up other than disliking the whole "V I B I N G" sharade 'cause it feels like Sarah is just posturing; waited until the game was settled in, saw what Nancy's approach was and began to create the perfect mindmeld with the townstump. Based on the current gamestate where I think we're pushing three town wagons, this is currently a very promising theory, but then again, it depends too much on other slots' reads, so it's not good enough by its own.

And that's the entire list. 9 towns, 3 scums, 3 nulls. Since AkAri is scum and that spews S&W scum, I'll say that if I'm wrong in one of my scumreads, it's olaf. If I'm right about the three of them, I'd tend to think clidd is the last one because hey I'm on a roll so let's keep going and pretend my townreads are all correct and I'm a big star! But if I'm wrong on olaf, which there's a high chance I am, I'd look again in my townreads to see where could I be wrong. The list is in no particular order, I started writting them based on the playerlist on post 0 and then went by memory so it's messy. But I would have to read 5uffering's ISO which is something I've been avoiding to do. Charlie and Snoopy was townie enough to make me believe that there's no need to read his entire ISO, but since I wasn't here early game, it could be me putting too much weight without context/real time reading.

I'm going to sleep now. My next step is making AkAri's scumcase. Thanks to everyone for the 24 hours, now I feel more part of the game and have a better shot of being helpful.

If you still want to end the day by elimming one of Italiano/Gamma/5uffering, by all means, go for it. I don't know who has more chances of being scum of the three of them; I think Italiano's frustration towards Nancy and the other two points I already brought up are good enough to make me think he's town. Although I disagreed at first, I think Toog's point about Gamma is very possibly true: chiming in about Noraa's replacement was impulsive, and keep going for it was prideful, two things I would expect Gamma would try to avoid; I don't remember who said it 'cause I read too damn much right now, but said that Gamma looked like he was trying to be careful about his reads, only commenting on current conversations but not giving insights of his own/scumhunting; well, this impulsiveness is the opposite of that. Then again, that is a valid reason to scumread someone, so now that I'm writting this lines, if you want to go with this PoE, I'd eliminate Gamma ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Charlie and Snoopy had only 15 posts to say what they thought and they are all fully packed with insights, reading the game with a town mindset. My only concern is the lack of an actual vote, 'cause he called out a lot of players for different reasons but didn't stick with any, so it seems like leaving their options open.

So as you can see, I'm not really concerned if you want to flip Gamma/5uffer. I agree with everyone who has said that they could be useful flips. BUT, if you do want to wait to see what I want to say about AkAri, that would be even better! A useful flip that could go either way is still worse than an actual scum flip, even more when, from my perspective, those useful flips, even if useful, are still most likely town.

Once again, thanks for the 24ish hours. Good night. Papa bless.

I really think Italiano/5uffering/W & P/Gamma/Clidd is what I’m looking at today. Nothing anyone has said makes me think REK is more likely to flip scum here than LHF, plus I want associatives people and REK has zilch.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i definitely wouldn't lim Morty today Nancy
he's mostly just there as a prediction even though I townread him
the gist for clidd is i think he's saying things he doesn't believe in and playing up the confident/commanding act
War and Peace has samantha playing to a tee to her scummeta while Ircher had some really bad moments early on
like i said i'm not gonna scumcase any of them right now
either in a few days if we're somehow still on this day
or day 2 if we flip someone

My initial solve was 5uffering, Italiano, Gamma, W & P.

I think this is why Titus is so eager to end the day by the way. All town in my eyes.

Why? And I think we can do a lot better today than a slot that’s as likely to flip lhf as scum.

[Pink Ball]

I can't recall who else calls me floof other than Krazy... Are you...

I'll close my eyes and look at what I see.

[Pink Ball]

i definitely wouldn't lim Morty today Nancy
he's mostly just there as a prediction even though I townread him
the gist for clidd is i think he's saying things he doesn't believe in and playing up the confident/commanding act
War and Peace has samantha playing to a tee to her scummeta while Ircher had some really bad moments early on
like i said i'm not gonna scumcase any of them right now
either in a few days if we're somehow still on this day
or day 2 if we flip someone

My initial solve was 5uffering, Italiano, Gamma, W & P.

I think this is why Titus is so eager to end the day by the way. All town in my eyes.

Why? And I think we can do a lot better today than a slot that’s as likely to flip lhf as scum.

... I just explained my townreads on them.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why is compulsive vanilaizer a town role? Somebody please explain that.

[Pink Ball]

Nothing anyone has said makes me think REK is more likely to flip scum here than LHF, plus I want associatives people and REK has zilch.

I haven't said anything about REK yet and I'm saying I'll scumcase tomorrow, so this is moot!

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why is compulsive vanilaizer a town role? Somebody please explain that.

Also vanilla cop but Titus was defated, at the Italiano push. I’m good at reading these things. That’s how I knew that Ydrasse had a failed vig on us in Pooky vs FL.

Not to mention that we get absolutely no info on REK flip. I want a flip that can hopefully help us break this game wide open, not some NAI lurker slot.

[Pink Ball]

Setup

>

Before sign-ups, the scum stump designs the scum's roles.

>

The scumteam can pick mostly anything they want, and the moderators balance town around their pick.

>

The scumstump may also submit two rules the moderators must follow when designing the setup. (Ex: No cops/gunsmiths, All town must be joats).

>

Anything that was deemed by me to be broken, unfair, or likely to create an unhealthy game experience was rejected.

>

Balance was striven for.

Because of this, Nancy. There's little to zero chance of Titus designing "compulsive vanilizer" as a scum role, 'cause if it was scum, it would be plain vanilizer. There's a big fat chance that one of the two rules that Titus submitted is the existence of a town compulsive vanilizer to fuck up with TPRs.

[Pink Ball]

Not to mention that we get absolutely no info on REK flip. I want a flip that can hopefully help us break this game wide open, not some NAI lurker slot.

Explicitly said that if REK flips scum, S&W flips scum, and that's the slot that helps us break the game open. Or even just plain old win the game.

Nancy, be honest, will you have patience and read what I have to say about REK, or are you already sold on the PoE you gave? 'Cause if that's the case, then let's just end the game. There's no point of trying to convince you if you're already convinced.

[Morty and Rick]

No protectives on me please

PB, I won't be leadin' no mo', something something zen approach

I'll be V/LA till Saturday

-Morty

[Morty and Rick]

I think REK is scum, gut, and scum flips are cool even if not informative

-Morty

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nothing anyone has said makes me think REK is more likely to flip scum here than LHF, plus I want associatives people and REK has zilch.

I haven't said anything about REK yet and I'm saying I'll scumcase tomorrow, so this is moot!

Okay fine then. I just would really prefer a high info flip because the only players who are apparently defending that slot have been Fey and S & W. One is locktown and the other I’m null to a slight town lean on. I want to flip one of the slots that I’m currently suspicious on and I’d really like cases on those and then I can decide amongst them.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Setup

>

Before sign-ups, the scum stump designs the scum's roles.

>

The scumteam can pick mostly anything they want, and the moderators balance town around their pick.

>

The scumstump may also submit two rules the moderators must follow when designing the setup. (Ex: No cops/gunsmiths, All town must be joats).

>

Anything that was deemed by me to be broken, unfair, or likely to create an unhealthy game experience was rejected.

>

Balance was striven for.

Because of this, Nancy. There's little to zero chance of Titus designing "compulsive vanilizer" as a scum role, 'cause if it was scum, it would be plain vanilizer. There's a big fat chance that one of the two rules that Titus submitted is the existence of a town compulsive vanilizer to fuck up with TPRs.

Okay that is a good point.

[Pink Ball]

scum flips are cool even if not informative

Also this

[Pink Ball]

PB, I won't be leadin' no mo', something something zen approach

Make yourself conftown, lend me your reads and I'll make the cases then. Has worked in the past.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Not to mention that we get absolutely no info on REK flip. I want a flip that can hopefully help us break this game wide open, not some NAI lurker slot.

Explicitly said that if REK flips scum, S&W flips scum, and that's the slot that helps us break the game open. Or even just plain old win the game.

Nancy, be honest, will you have patience and read what I have to say about REK, or are you already sold on the PoE you gave? 'Cause if that's the case, then let's just end the game. There's no point of trying to convince you if you're already convinced.

I’m of course interested in hearing it but I think that have as good a chance at flipping lhf as scum perhaps more so. I don’t think S & W are scum here, so if you’re argument is that they are the same alignment? Then that makes lhf more not less likely in that case.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Setup

>

Before sign-ups, the scum stump designs the scum's roles.

>

The scumteam can pick mostly anything they want, and the moderators balance town around their pick.

>

The scumstump may also submit two rules the moderators must follow when designing the setup. (Ex: No cops/gunsmiths, All town must be joats).

>

Anything that was deemed by me to be broken, unfair, or likely to create an unhealthy game experience was rejected.

>

Balance was striven for.

Because of this, Nancy. There's little to zero chance of Titus designing "compulsive vanilizer" as a scum role, 'cause if it was scum, it would be plain vanilizer. There's a big fat chance that one of the two rules that Titus submitted is the existence of a town compulsive vanilizer to fuck up with TPRs.

Okay that is a good point.

I disagree? Hectic ceded design to me in FLvH and it wouldn't surprise me for Titus to cede design to Ali here, I don't think scum stumps actually want to design their cards other than Pine usually, could be wrong though

-S