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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:37 am

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Stewie: [in his diary] Day 171. I've sprouted another finger. Counting the one from yesterday, [looks at his penis], I'm up to 11.

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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:12 am

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Some questions I have about stuff I want to look up (I'm posting it now because I'm afraid I might forget before I wade back through previous days looking for info... there's so much to look at it's a little like needle in a haystack):

1)What was kloud's reaction to Rock's fake claim (and maybe reaction to GW's claim)? Since his role is similar I wonder if he said anything that would make it look improbable that he is a watcher. Don't remember off the top of my head...

2)reborn sent RF a death ray? Didn't we talk about NOT inventing a death ray? I guess it doesn't matter if we're sure reborn is town. (See? I keep wanting to attack...)

Reborn, did you send RF a death ray because you thought she was town?
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:15 am

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I do think RF is town, yes.
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:29 am

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As far as I can find Kloud did not make any commentary during the time between Rock's Watcher claim and his implication of GW and StD as his scumbuddies, to which Kloud reacted very negatively.
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:45 am

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reborn537 wrote:I do think RF is town, yes.
I actually do too but I'm trying to be open minded as I don't want to be fooled.
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:55 am

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I am leaning to a Kloud lynch given that tracker + watcher + JOAT + bodyguard + inventor is a pretty strong town combo. It is the fact though that we have a tracker and watcher, two weak informational roles, that is bugging me. Also what bothers me is the fact that I was tracked N1 when my role was fairly proveable in comparison to IG who would never be able to prove a role and live.

I cant agrue with the EK or RF trackings too much, but the role smells a bit fishy to me. Then again given my role there sure isnt a whole lot I can do about it is there?
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:59 am

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Why didn't you use a one-shot ability last night?

We really would have liked having your vote - if any town member votes for another town member the scum can quick double hammer now.
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:00 pm

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My last post is wrong. But the question stands.
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:02 pm

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reborn537 wrote:Why didn't you use a one-shot ability last night?

We really would have liked having your vote - if any town member votes for another town member the scum can quick double hammer now.
Six alive is four to lynch, if we lynch town then I know there was scum on the wagon and that is nice and vigable.

We will probally no lynch with a lot of information to go on for tomorrow. Its only lylo if we mislynch, not no lynch.
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:06 pm

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Actually is anyone against doing a no lynch, Kloud targets reborn who gives a proveable, day use (if there is such thing) invention to a player. Kloud claims the target and if he is wrong we have him caught?

Although that is partially odds needed, and goes on the fact that we have a proveable invention instead of a claim to invention ownage. It might work but there are probally better ways to test this.
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:29 pm

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reborn537 wrote:I think it's pretty likely that there are two scum, and that they are a combination of Kloud, and then either STD or EK.

Kloud, I expected a full claim from you.
Why didn't you mention what you received last night?
I was planning to after posting my night actions, reborn, but my sister burned her hand and I had to rush her to the doctor's office.

Back to where I left off: reborn gave me his invention last night; a Satellite Tracking Device. The PM did not specify in exact detail what it did, but told me to look up Lie Detector on the wiki -- so I am assuming that reborn gave me the Lie Detector device to use. The PM says that the device can also be used during the day.
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:29 pm

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I think Kloud is lying because the way he puts it only STD can be scum.

There are two scum out there.

We now have no protective roles so we can't guarantee my survival in the no lynch scenario.

I assume that Cleveland died protecting someone.
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:33 pm

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RestFermata wrote:As far as I can find Kloud did not make any commentary during the time between Rock's Watcher claim and his implication of GW and StD as his scumbuddies, to which Kloud reacted very negatively.
1) I did not say anything after Rock's watcher claim because I felt that he was still going to be lynched based off of the solid arguments leveled against him. I did not think that providing a counter claim would be necessary, as since Rock appeared to be the lynch for the day me doing so would have only given scum one more power role NK option.

2) I acted negatively to the idea for the same reason almost everyone else did: I thought the game was going to be dropped/abandoned because of Rock's actions.
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:36 pm

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reborn537 wrote:I think Kloud is lying because the way he puts it only STD can be scum.

There are two scum out there.

We now have no protective roles so we can't guarantee my survival in the no lynch scenario.

I assume that Cleveland died protecting someone.
I believe you are putting words into my mouth here, reborn. I never said that I felt STD could be the only scum. All I said was that neither RF or EK visited another player in the nights I tracked them. This could be an indication that neither players submitted the NK choice just as much as it could indicate that they are townies.

If I did say that STD could be the only possible scum candidate, please point it out.
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:43 pm

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Hmmm, you raise a good point.

So why haven't you told me about my item?
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:56 pm

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kloud1516 wrote:If I did say that STD could be the only possible scum candidate, please point it out.
Your results do though. If you are a tracker then StD was the one submitting the scum kill last night. Still thinking about what the best way to try and check the claim here is.
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:59 pm

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reborn537 in post 1814 wrote:Hmmm, you raise a good point.

So why haven't you told me about my item?
kloud1516 in post 1810 wrote:
reborn537 wrote:I think it's pretty likely that there are two scum, and that they are a combination of Kloud, and then either STD or EK.

Kloud, I expected a full claim from you.
Why didn't you mention what you received last night?
I was planning to after posting my night actions, reborn, but my sister burned her hand and I had to rush her to the doctor's office.

Back to where I left off: reborn gave me his invention last night; a Satellite Tracking Device.
The PM did not specify in exact detail what it did, but told me to look up Lie Detector on the wiki -- so I am assuming that reborn gave me the Lie Detector device to use. The PM says that the device can also be used during the day.
The is all the information/assumption I can give to you, for I do not have anything else to go on myself. I am guessing that what you gave me was a Lie Detector, a device in which will tell me whether or not a particular statement made by a player is true or false. I am allowed to use this during the day.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:01 pm

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If reborn gets NK'ed tomorrow night, that plan wouldn't work, Llama.
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:13 pm

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RestFermata wrote:If reborn gets NK'ed tomorrow night, that plan wouldn't work, Llama.
Yeah it does, someone will have an invention.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:14 pm

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Oh, the invention gets sent anyway even if he dies?
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:16 pm

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Probally, that might be good to clarify with the mod if we are serious about trying this.
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:17 pm

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Is the math solid? Can we afford to possibly lose another townie?
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:29 pm

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I think at any rate Kloud should test something with the lie detector today. That way if we do go through with your plan, LF, we will have even more information if Kloud is confirmed town.

Maybe everyone can claim that they have a town-aligned role in this game.

And Kloud can test someone he doesn't think is 100% confirmed.

I, RestFermata, have a town-aligned role in this game.
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:43 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:Probally, that might be good to clarify with the mod if we are serious about trying this.

I can not confirm or deny the existence of any role or claim made.
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:34 pm

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farside22 wrote:
LlamaFluff wrote:Probally, that might be good to clarify with the mod if we are serious about trying this.

I can not confirm or deny the existence of any role or claim made.
Curses. I think that the action is successful as long as reborn doesnt get blocked though. I am almost ready to say "lets lynch Kloud", but want to give him one last post to lay down his thoughts.
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