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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:45 am

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:48 am

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being 2 shot is really convenient though
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:09 am

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In post 1048, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 954, samantha97 wrote:since the day is about to end probably I might as well say I don't have a result or anything on in the beginning, I was just trying to bait a bad claim

but I'm also pretty confident he is mafia & hope you guys consider him tomorrow
hm
gosh darn it. good catch though.

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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:16 am

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Does anyone think the entire scum team was on Lunar?

If not, that would give us a ITB, Gamma PoE.

Gamma, u aint scum is u?
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:20 am

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In post 1053, Funeral Goose wrote:Does anyone think the entire scum team was on Lunar?

If not, that would give us a ITB, Gamma PoE.

Gamma, u aint scum is u?
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:31 am

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gamma could in fact be scum!
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:35 am

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oh yeah reminder to self itb 12p setup spec is ? given i exist to set us on odds
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:37 am

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could nuke itb today and go into lylo(?) tomorrow w/o paranoia there
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:38 am

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Mini Normal 2193 Official Vote Count - 3.1


In the beginning
(1): Ydrasse
Funeral Goose
(1): In the beginning
Gamma Emerald
(1): esotericzoomer

Not Voting
(4): Cookie Monster, Battle Mage, Funeral Goose, Gamma Emerald

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline
: (expired on 2021-02-22 16:00:00)

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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:12 am

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In post 1032, In the beginning wrote:I am a Town 2-Shot Tracker.

I tracked esotericzoomer N1 because I scum read them. They didn't go anywhere on my watch.
I tracked Cookie Monster N2. She also went nowhere.

I also received a message last night. I won't say what it was or who it was from but I'll acknowledge I received it.
We probably should have forced this claim yesterday, so Samantha could verify it.
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:13 am

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Ydrasse being alive is unexpected
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:16 am

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Samantha's suspicion on ITB may be simply that she thought it was unlikely to have a tracker and watcher in the same game. 2 gated investigatives could work though. Tracker is also a slightly risky fakeclaim here, so points for that. Need to think about it.

I think massclaim is the way forward!
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:21 am

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I did do some reading during night phase. My notes say "less likely scum is in the beginning based on the hard push but no vote."

which I think means, ItalianoVD pushed ITB very hard (much harder than anyone else), but never voted for them. If it was distancing, surely they make that vote? Looked more like trying to push a mis-elim from the sidelines.
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:34 am

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I think it's Gamma today. Surely 1 scum within Gamma-Funeral Goose, and 1 scum within Cookie-ITB-Zoomer. I'll give benefit of the doubt to Ydrasse.
In post 347, ItalianoVD wrote:I would take a look at Hub, Gamma, or Ydrasse if Funeral does flip town.
In post 676, ItalianoVD wrote:These are very quick and light reads to give an idea of where my head is. These are all obviously subject to change depending on what happens...
Spoiler:
town:

Goose - as stated a gut read just from postings and interactions. Also I didn’t like how their wagon came about.

Battle Mage - I played one game with Battle Mage (town) and I read another where he was (scum) and my gut tells me he is town. Hasn’t had the most content, but from what I’ve seen I feel like he’s town.

probably town:

Hub - Not really confident putting Hub here as I’ve never played with them and don’t really know what to look for. Postings and interactions have felt decent, but I gotta go with my gut here and it’s telling me they’re more than likely town.

Lunar - Although Lunar’s activity is lacking, the few posts he has made reminds me of Newbie 2049 where he was town.

null:

Gamma - I have only played one game with Gamma and he was scum. I don’t know what tells to look for from town!Gamma, but should be able to sort the slot better once we have some flips.

Ydrasse - Very similar to Gamma here. I have also played exactly only one game with Ydrasse and she was scum, but don’t know what to look for when she’s town. It’s also a slot like Gamma that I’ll have to wait for flips/reveals. I was leaning town for Ydrasse earlier, but there have been things that pinged me and has had me push her up and down the readslist.

Samantha - Can’t really read Samantha. She scumread me which made me think she was scum, but not sure at the moment.

leaning scum/scum:

Cookie Monster - Cookie’s early “why mes” kind of stand out to me. There also seems to be an overall defensiveness there and not the normal townie defensiveness. I’m gutreading this slot right now.

Gretchen - Has been broadcasting how much of a townie she is and wants everybody to follow suit. Aside from tunneling me haven’t seen very much from Gretchen except the aforementioned let’s all be friends.

In the beginning - My recent interactions have me thinking beginning is more than likely scum here. A lot of inconsistencies and hypocrisies and I feel like he jumped on my wagon. And I did initially think his quick clear of Gretchen was kinda ridiculous.

Zoomer - Earlier in the game I was leaning guttown for Ydrasse so I felt Zoomer’s interaction with her was kinda strange and I thought he was attempting to pocket her. When I called it out he kinda brushed it off with a answer almost like let’s not talk about it. To be fair I didn’t come back to it, but I was somewhat distracted.
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:37 am

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then again, it is very weird to think that ITB claimed tracker Day 1...and was never attempted to be NKed...
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:43 am

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ISO on Cookie - not great, but not the worst.
In post 510, Cookie Monster wrote:
In post 505, Gretchen wrote:it's Italiano and Gamma sillies. it came to me in a dream and i don't think i'd lie to myself about something so important. so yeah. you lot can figure out who the third one is. good luck~
Is there anything particular that makes you think it’s gamma and Italiano?
this would be hilarious if it's Gamma-Italiano-Cookie. Although I do think Gamma-Italiano-Zoomer is more likely.
In post 914, Cookie Monster wrote:Will I get eliminated because I killed a town?
In post 917, Cookie Monster wrote:Because I killed a town it’s bad right? So will I get eliminated?
what the heck was this? In hindsight, Cookie isn't a complete newbie (she knew it wasn't good to highlight a PR 'crumb'), so that's odd.

In post 408, Cookie Monster wrote:
In post 291, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:So you think cookie monster scum?
I’m not I can tell you that
to come back to this.
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:55 am

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In post 1042, Ydrasse wrote:i’m confirmed town so. yeah. lmao
You're not confirmed town, but you are highly likely town. But for full disclosure, I don't think I'm elimming either you or Inthebeginning today. I'm willing to revisit Inthebeginning tomorrow.

So I need you to tell me who is scum from the remaining pool of players.
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:58 am

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i am

uncced

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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:58 am

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jfc
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:03 am

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im not going to waste my time arguing over whether you are conftown or not - in practice it doesn't matter. I'm happy to assume you're probably town and not elim you...so what difference does it make? None.
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:04 am

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I think also
No massclaim
- just in case we have a protective - makes no sense to out them prematurely.
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:09 am

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In post 1046, esotericzoomer wrote:if sam was on gretchen then she wouldn't assume itb might have a tracker result to share or am i insane for imagining that
itb had previously claimed tracker, so Samantha said they might have a tracker result (to verify their claim).
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:10 am

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wild
sorry gretchen cus apparently you atleast sniped 2/3 scum day 1
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:11 am

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In post 1061, Battle Mage wrote:Samantha's suspicion on ITB may be simply that she thought it was unlikely to have a tracker and watcher in the same game. 2 gated investigatives could work though. Tracker is also a slightly risky fakeclaim here, so points for that. Need to think about it.

I think massclaim is the way forward!
you wanted a massclaim tho
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:12 am

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i think funeral/gamma could be a good shot

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