Raw, Unfiltered, UPICK Game Over !

[Jesse Pierce]

snatch this

[Jesse Pierce]

As for the game,
Grey town
Math scum
Chkflip town
Grendel null
Marky scum read happened before I finished catching up. His later posting was clear town flail and anyone that doesn't see it isn't paying enough attention or is scum.

[MathBlade]

I mean damn. I was thinking I was pretty obvious lmao. Guess if people push me this hard it’s either all scum or I am not.

That’s an interesting block there. Ordering seems a bit weird but can work with it.

Bit small too.

[Grendel]

@GreyICE

I dont think that Math missing my full thought processes on Prokens, but continuing to push it anyways, is outside of their town range. Math is a stubborn person in general i think. You've played with Math before, im sure you can agree with that take right?

-/-/-/-/-

The way I see it is:

You keep pushing stupid >> You are elimmed win/win because you failed your BoP.
You back off >> We get associations if you’re scum and if you’re town you smell the BS in your argument and see where the motion goes

Im pro- lets not have you and Gray 1v1 today. I think you're both probably town, that it will distract from finding actual scum.

-/-/-/-

pre-edit

town: Vax/Math/Grey

I dont have a concrete scum bloc yet. I didnt check for assossitives but Fidget, Not 15, and Chipfilk are my top scum reads

[Grendel]

As for the game,
Grey town
Math scum
Chkflip town
Grendel null
Marky scum read happened before I finished catching up. His later posting was clear town flail and anyone that doesn't see it isn't paying enough attention or is scum.

Curious why you included a null read for me

Also Chip is town why?

[chkflip]

When did we play before, mah dewd?

[Grendel]

Guitarist mafia modded by the baker

[Jesse Pierce]

As for the game,
Grey town
Math scum
Chkflip town
Grendel null
Marky scum read happened before I finished catching up. His later posting was clear town flail and anyone that doesn't see it isn't paying enough attention or is scum.

Curious why you included a null read for me

Also Chip is town why?

I dislike most of your posts to a very high degree but giving out a scumread will cement that and get me tunneled because I think it's just play style clash.
He seems pretty towny.

[Jesse Pierce]

Guitarist mafia modded by the baker

That was worded bad but the meaning is clear.

[Marky Mark]

Yeah, scum are trying to mimic scumhunting, so NK!scum calling Vax!whatever out for rolefishing makes sense.

You're right that potentially NK could in that situation be actively looking for third party, although if he was that doesn't necessarily mean he'd say that out loud as specifically mentioning 3rd party rather than generic 'scum' might make people think he was mafia.

A very simple explanation is that scum!NK saw town!Vax doing somthing scummy and thought "aha, easy push opportunity here on a town slot", without really thinking much through the third party angle. As a player with ~6 games experience, that is 100% what I would do there as scum.

I hope that kinda makes sense?

NK15 has been on site for four years and has, glancing at his posted threads list, been in 30 mafia games at a bare minimum (search.php?author_id=30477&sr=topics). I'm pretty sure he's past the stage of scum where he's a deer in the headlights praying for nightfall.

I do think NK15 posted that Vax was scummy for role hunting without considering if he was mafia or third party. And that's because he doesn't care, and that's because he's town.

Now engaging that deeper conversation we were talking about, what do you think Vax's motives are for role hunting? Do you think they're town motives, or scum motives, what do you think his drive is with this?

Ok fair, so I guess NK isn't super new, and may well have an awareness of the 3rd party angle. That makes your interpretation of events more likely for sure, although there are still many reasons that they might have just mentioned 'scum' in the generic sense, such as not wanting to TMI as scum. On balance, I feel like you are still reading too much into this.

Ref Vax, I find it likely that them asking the mod to reveal their flavour is suboptimal play as any alignment, so they probably did it because they thought it would be fun to embrace the flavour aspect of the upick. They were flavour hunting rather than role hunting (I appreciate I have probably said 'role' in previous posts on this when it was actually flavour) and I guess them asking porkens (and Chkflip just before that) was probably just them hamming it up as Zeus and NAI.

[Marky Mark]

I remember Math being very self-assured in Bears, but the way he threatened GreyIce in 515 for pushing stuff that he didn't agree with was not a side of him that I remember from that game.

[Vaxkiller]

Part of my role is that my flavor is revealed at the start of the game. I had no control over it.

[Marky Mark]

... continuation from my previous post

I also think that GreyICE is experienced/thick-skinned enough not to be intimidated by a threat like that, and I think that Math would know that as they must have played together a decent bit, so its hard to see his motivation for making the threat, unless it was to play to the crowd.

Like math also refuted Grey's points, which is a fairly normal thing to do if someone is voting you, but I'm just struggling to see where he was going with the whole "You’re going to be fucked." threat

[Vaxkiller]

It's part of being a god.
*shrug*

[Marky Mark]

Part of my role is that my flavor is revealed at the start of the game. I had no control over it.

Ah, now this is interesting. Were you pushing chkflip/prokens into flavourclaiming to try and level the playing field then?

[Vaxkiller]

@marky Mark

Want a really spicy take?

[Vaxkiller]

Part of my role is that my flavor is revealed at the start of the game. I had no control over it.

Ah, now this is interesting. Were you pushing chkflip/prokens into flavourclaiming to try and level the playing field then?

I have a wild theory about some flavor crystals and alignment.

[Marky Mark]

@marky Mark

Want a really spicy take?

*waits in anticipation*

[MathBlade]

I remember Math being very self-assured in Bears, but the way he threatened GreyIce in 515 for pushing stuff that he didn't agree with was not a side of him that I remember from that game.

Really? You don’t remember the entire argument with G?

I am certain I will never be elimmed unless town really derps. Almost more so than when I was mason.

[MathBlade]

... continuation from my previous post

I also think that GreyICE is experienced/thick-skinned enough not to be intimidated by a threat like that, and I think that Math would know that as they must have played together a decent bit, so its hard to see his motivation for making the threat, unless it was to play to the crowd.

Like math also refuted Grey's points, which is a fairly normal thing to do if someone is voting you, but I'm just struggling to see where he was going with the whole "You’re going to be fucked." threat

Nope. Not playing the crowd. I am playing to have certain posts remembered post flip.
Judging by your reaction you will remember.

[Marky Mark]

... continuation from my previous post

I also think that GreyICE is experienced/thick-skinned enough not to be intimidated by a threat like that, and I think that Math would know that as they must have played together a decent bit, so its hard to see his motivation for making the threat, unless it was to play to the crowd.

Like math also refuted Grey's points, which is a fairly normal thing to do if someone is voting you, but I'm just struggling to see where he was going with the whole "You’re going to be fucked." threat

Nope. Not playing the crowd. I am playing to have certain posts remembered post flip.
Judging by your reaction you will remember.

I mean playing to the crowd doesn't necessarily have to be scum motivated, but yeah I can see your logic here

[Marky Mark]

I was keen to get some direction/energy going in terms of a wagon but NK seems to have vanished off the face of the earth and fidgit is being replaced. Uncrowned has also only had a prodge since Monday, so none of my top SRs are interacting with the game much. Where do we go from here?

[MathBlade]

Guitarist mafia modded by the baker

That was worded bad but the meaning is clear.

I would say poke Jessee and Grendel.

Seems odd the Jessee slot commented on what Grendel posted saying the wording is bad but the meaning is clear. How is this true and why did Jessee feel the need to say this.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Jessee

Come explain it.

[Vaxkiller]

@marky Mark

Want a really spicy take?

*waits in anticipation*

It might be too spicy.