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[Flea The Magician]

I mean you just did refute my post a bit

"it's my play style" is a defence, and you've seen me use it a few times

I'm kinda happy with my vote where it is currently.
Self-awareness isn't really a tell imo but I find it interesting you've gone there.

[Uncrowned]

Well yeah but I don't think it's going to generate the conversation you're looking for.

[Uncrowned]

The self-awareness bit isn't meant o be a tell of alignment. It's meant to signify that, no, something as basic as early game posting where I naked vote and then make a push on the slot that reacts badly to that vote is something that I

1: Know will generate interest in my slot, both good and bad.

2: Could put me at the forefront of a wagon.

It is well within both alignment ranges for me.

And for Mark, who is trying to put up this pretense as a "hey let's work this out together" kinda guy, failing to understand this or give it any sort of credence goes directly against the character he's trying to portray. The inconsistency is scummy af

[Flea The Magician]

Given I've got 1 game meta with both of you, you're the one slightly off meta. Mark is just super friend and a town cheerleader type imo

[Marky Mark]

I'm singling you out because you're the most actively engaged and I would assume the one who most strongly believes I am scum.

You can't talk about "let's work together" and all that LAMISTy stuff while actively and blatantly ignoring the most clear evidence that my initial vote was at best town indicative for me, or at worst completely null in determining my alignment.

But I'm not ignoring the initial evidence - I've explained why it is scum indicative, especially when contrasted to your subsequent play.

I wouldn't say I'm worried about how I'm coming off at all. I'm just playing.

Do you really think I'm hitting panic mode after I get a couple votes on me in the early game when in general, as I said about your wagon, these early game wagons usually don't amount to elims? If this was a newbie and I was playing in my first ever scum-game, sure that could be plausible. Here, though? It doesn't make much sense.

As I've kinda already said, I dont see either my wagon or yours leading to an immediate elim, but yeah the volume of reaction from you in contrast to the initial post does strike me as panicing somewhat. You're clearly not newbscum here, but I could see scum in general in your situation being concerned in a general sense about getting too much heat.

Also, being self-aware doesn't necessarily mean you care about how you're perceived. It just means you know or have a sense of how you're going to be perceived for making certain plays/posts.

Valid point

[Marky Mark]

The self-awareness bit isn't meant o be a tell of alignment. It's meant to signify that, no, something as basic as early game posting where I naked vote and then make a push on the slot that reacts badly to that vote is something that I

1: Know will generate interest in my slot, both good and bad.

2: Could put me at the forefront of a wagon.

It is well within both alignment ranges for me.

And for Mark, who is trying to put up this pretense as a "hey let's work this out together" kinda guy, failing to understand this or give it any sort of credence goes directly against the character he's trying to portray. The inconsistency is scummy af

I am trying to sort you - I do want to work together if you are town here, but posts like this when you twist where I'm coming from in a disingenuous way don't really help.

The initial post is scumlean, the subsequent defence including the self meta is also scumlean and the two together (low-effort initial post followed by high-effort subsequent self defence and attack on me) don't feel massively consistent. Of course, I could be wrong and your initial post could be a ploy to generate reactions as you suggest - this feels unlikely though given how the follow-up is inconsistent with it.

[Marky Mark]

You can't talk about "let's work together" and all that LAMISTy stuff while actively and blatantly ignoring the most clear evidence that my initial vote was at best town indicative for me, or at worst completely null in determining my alignment.

I want to come back to this, because I am keen to work together as a group, but I also feel like you are acting in bad faith towards me, which is putting up a barrier to talking through things. You have continually misrepped me throughout our conversation eg

155 - you outright state that I assumed that scum!you would think they could quicklim me, which simply wasn't true. If you'd just asked me to clarify my position, I could have explained this. Instead, you launch an attack on me based on a completely incorrect premise of how I was viewing events.

206 - you claim that I hadn't been providing reasons to SR you, when I had in fact spelled them out at length in the thread.

229 - you imply that I was being inconsistent by not treating you and chkflip the same, when it was pretty clear that both of you naked voted in very different contexts. I think you knew this too.

238 - you try to claim that if I actually was scumhunting you in good faith then I would be looking into your meta, despite the fact that this is not something I generally do, and not something that anyone else in the thread had been doing.

If you were actually town here, I could understand you refuting my points if you thought I was mistaken, but I don't see what motive you would have to repeatedly misrep me and twist the truth like this

[Marky Mark]

Aside from my top SR of uncrowned,

FOS Jake and Vax

- both slots seem to be fairly thin on scumhunting/analysis compared to their # of posts.

I'm probs gonna be off for the rest of the weekend, but may check in now and again if I have time.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Aside from my top SR of uncrowned,

FOS Jake and Vax

- both slots seem to be fairly thin on scumhunting/analysis compared to their # of posts.

I'm probs gonna be off for the rest of the weekend, but may check in now and again if I have time.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Apparently the text of my last message didn't go through

Aside from my top SR of uncrowned,

FOS Jake and Vax

- both slots seem to be fairly thin on scumhunting/analysis compared to their # of posts.

I'm probs gonna be off for the rest of the weekend, but may check in now and again if I have time.

I don't exist to scumhunt. I exist to be a terrible quote machine.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright, so the reason I picked the cover of Necromancer I did was because I wanted to get to this thing. So one thing I was mildly sad about during the Micro Normal I modded with the video game metal cover VC flavor was that my flavor thematic kept me from doing songs like this (though this came after that ended). But anyway, cute song composed for a kinda cool VTuber.

Votecount 1.6

Uncrowned (6): Mistyx, Marky Mark, cassowary, Flea The Magician, Vaxkiller, chkflip
Marky Mark (4): Porkens, Uncrowned, Grendel, Not Known 15
Vaxkiller (1): Turin Turambar
the worst (1): Jake the Wolfie
Flea The Magician (1): Fidget

Not voting: the worst

Within 14 alive it takes 8 votes to yeet someone into the void.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-02-15 15:10:00), or whenever a yeet has been decided.

[Mistyx]

UNVOTE: uncrowned

this level of effort is what i was looking for earlier

i'll read up in-depth shortly

[Not Known 15]

Dang, L-2. Careful with that wagon, Eugene.

Oh man I forgot how gross this was.

"Hey guys, L-2 watch out watch out but lemme stay on the wagon."

I agree, this does not look good.

My vote stays where it is, though.

[Grendel]

Given I've got 1 game meta with both of you, you're the one slightly off meta. Mark is just super friend and a town cheerleader type imo

So Mark is like in a majority of his games?

[Grendel]

VOTE: Uncrowned

I will bah bah eh-like a sheep.

Isnt chkflip normally a more abrasive/domineering personality type in discussion?

I understand that aposing as his character can impact posts, or whatever, but i feel like what he has done so far this game doesn't look like how he played in a prevous town game I had with him. Also, I do only have one game's worth exp w/ him so idk the full depth of his range as town, and scum.

[Grendel]

I havent read the casing of uncrowned yet, I will later tonight, or tomorrow night

[Mistyx]

ok i went and read uncrowned's posts in detail

i feel very good about my unvote now

[Mistyx]

VOTE: JTW

don't like their post towards vax early, it felt like a discredit attempt for the sake of it

in fact i would go so far to say it gives jake and porkens w/w equity :O

[Vaxkiller]

I like Porkens and NotKnown

Mark is >rand scum atm but there's decent chance he's just clueless town

I dont think uncrowned!scum makes this comment

Could you go into more detail as to why?

I had a logical reason in my head, but now it evades me. Trying to process where I was at and I'm getting this:

Does uncrowned!scum call mark scum with a chance of being town, when he is likely feeling lots of pressure? Doesnt incrowned!scum just full on call mark scum. I get that scum have the be prepared for the flip, and they sometimes start calling people town, or maybe town, or SOMETHING, but why at this point?

Thats what I came up with. I'm not 100% behind it as I was before, as looking back, wagons are kinda equal.

[Vaxkiller]

oh hai we friends now mistyx?

[Vaxkiller]

Ever been friends with a god?

[Vaxkiller]

I'll drop VAX a cheeky FOS too - lots of posts, but fairly thin on any scrutiny/analysis/reads. Could be posting style tbf, but feels very different to the Bears mini where we played together.

I dont remember u in bears, were you in a hydra?

What the hell is a "cheeky" FOS

[Mistyx]

Ever been friends with a god?

not yet but maybe someday soon!!

[Vaxkiller]

Still keen to hear back from both Vax and Not Known on the questions I asked them btw

?

[Uncrowned]

VOTE: Cassowary