Open 80 - Double Day Mafia (Game Over!)

CF Riot · Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:30 am

SpyreX wrote:Nope, sure not scum.

I believe it. We could just follow arm around with our votes and kind of force him into the thing. =P I don't know. Basically if you cut out all the who's in/who's out stuff, is it not the same thing as just listening to what each other thinks? I think one thing I would change is I don't want to line up our lynches like that. For instance, right now you're voting FS with me and I've pledged to vote 1 person with you. I think we should just stick with that until today is resolved, then discuss who comes next after night. Question, if you weren't making this deal with me, who would you be voting today?

TSN: Who's 2nd scummiest after SC to you?

I. AM. BEOWULF.

Firestarter - 4 (CF Riot, SpyreX, Knight of Cydonia, StrangerCoug)
Knight of Cydonia - 3 (LlamaFluff, killa seven, orangepenguin)
FaerieLord - 1 (Manito)
StrangerCoug - 1 (TheSweatpantsNinja)
killa seven - 1 (Joubert)
Manito - 1 (FaerieLord)
CF Riot - 1 (Firestarter)

Not Voting - armlx

13/7.

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SpyreX · Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:44 am

I believe it. We could just follow arm around with our votes and kind of force him into the thing. =P I don't know. Basically if you cut out all the who's in/who's out stuff, is it not the same thing as just listening to what each other thinks? I think one thing I would change is I don't want to line up our lynches like that. For instance, right now you're voting FS with me and I've pledged to vote 1 person with you. I think we should just stick with that until today is resolved, then discuss who comes next after night. Question, if you weren't making this deal with me, who would you be voting today?

One one level I really like the idea of following arm around turning him into a 3-voter.

But, yes, at heart its just the flipside of mafia - we're creating a "mason" group that, although not confirmed we're gonna sure play like they are.

If it wasn't for our deal & my vla... I'd probably have been pushing hard on FL again. Of course, FS coming in just twirling around all scummily makes it easy to stay where I am.

I can dig not "setting" them up but unless someone decides to really up the scum-level I will not shed a tear on FS, FL, KoC, or K7 at this point. If there's not one scum in there (much less 2) i'd be really, really surprised.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:46 am

cf riot wrote: TSN: Who's 2nd scummiest after SC to you?

Firestarter.

armlx · Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:42 am

I can dig not "setting" them up but unless someone decides to really up the scum-level I will not shed a tear on FS, FL, KoC, or K7 at this point.

This is true.

SpyreX, I'm fine with listening to what you have to say and considering it strongly on each person, but the issue I have is that I want each member of any pact like that to be able to completely back out if they would like to. That way they can be held accountable for following the others.

SpyreX · Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:53 am

Ohh, there's no "holding" to it. Its more a formalization of the fact that, really, I think the two of you are town and together we can rip through this without near as much difficulty.

armlx · Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:04 pm

I guess, I don't see how it changes much anyways. I'd rather handle it on a case by case basis.

SpyreX · Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:48 pm

Fair enough.

As fun as this distraction has been, I've gotta catch up from my V/LA. I'll throw down cases on all 4 of my main suspects unless we get a power FS lynch by like tuesday or wednesday (I'll hold my breath)

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:07 am

Can all the people voting by themselves highlight their second suspects for us?

killa seven · Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:33 am

Im still excited about my vote.

orangepenguin · Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:45 am

killa seven wrote:Im still excited about my vote.

Excited...because you think you found scum? Or what?

Manito · Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:17 am

LlamaFluff wrote:Can all the people voting by themselves highlight their second suspects for us?

K7 and Joubert are my tied 2nd place scum suspects.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:51 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
cf riot wrote: TSN: Who's 2nd scummiest after SC to you?
Firestarter.

Why Firestarter?

Firestarter · Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:40 am

CF Riot · Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:15 pm

Firestarter wrote:KoC.

Hmm? What happened to Armlx?

Firestarter · Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:58 pm

CF Riot wrote:
Firestarter wrote:KoC.
Hmm? What happened to Armlx?

Nothing.... he's still up there... but not as much as you...

As for KoC, Ive tied him to you, its a natural 2nd pick now.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:47 pm

sc wrote: Why Firestarter?

He's OMGUSy, he had a huge reach of a "stretch" on KoC, hasn't done anything particularly pro-town.

armlx · Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:43 pm

Wait, so FS, its second suspect. I thought there was CF Riot and me....

Firestarter · Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:51 am

Firestarter wrote: Nothing.... he's still up there... but not as much as you...

As for KoC, Ive tied him to you, its a natural 2nd pick now.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:38 am

In other words, Fire and CF seem to either want, or would be happy with (respectively) having me lynched on the grounds that it would clear/indict the other.

CFR asked Firestarter:

paraphrase wrote: Would KoC flipping town make you lean town on me?

which is, no matter how much you deny it, an attempt to lead up to a lynch of me to false-prove CFR - although he dropped that route as soon as I called him on it, and Firestarter seems to be holding me at second me because if I flip scum (which I won't) it will prove his wonderful bussing theory that CF Riot is my buddy. Which he ain't.

Firestarter is probably the most OMGUSsy person in this game. Discounting meta entirely, I lean heavily scum on him. I'm discounting meta because a) I haven't completed any games with him, and b) I hate meta, because it can be used in a WIFOM strategy by skilled scum.

Firestarter · Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:53 am

Im skilled scum now?

And Im not for bargaining with others either...
I never struck a deal with CFR about your lynching....

You also say Im the most OMGUSY person here...
Does that implicitly imply Im scum if it is the case?

Why is it, that when anyone tries to justify voting for me, they reply with..
"I think he's the most OMGUS player.."...

No case... just OMGUS?

An easy lynch will occur, thats all, and the rest of town should be pushing these players with votes as to what their cases are..

So far, with CFR, all he has done is provided links... Useless.

Now KoC, with his OMGUS rant...

armlx · Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:16 am

An easy lynch will occur, thats all, and the rest of town should be pushing these players with votes as to what their cases are..

This is probably better at describing what I meant then what I was saying.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:34 am

Well, way to mis-rep. I'm voting you because while not explicitly saying "Lynch KoC, and if he's scum, so is CFR", that is basically what you and CFR (although he implied he wanted me lynched to prove he's town) have been nibbling around the edges at - and it wouldn't prove anything other than the fact I'm town.
And OMGUS helps because you're not putting any decent cases together any more - it's just "You're voting me, but I can't see your case other than a feeling! And you have a case on KoC! Vote him, PLEASE!!! OMGUS VOTE ON YOU UNTIL YOU DO!"
Right now, it basically looks like you're trying toget votes off yourself and onto me, who you seem to think an easy target, and are accusing CFR of agreeing with the cases on you, over the case he has against me - which isn't as scummy as you think - it jsut means he finds those cases stronger.

CF Riot · Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:01 am

Knight of Cydonia wrote:CFR asked Firestarter:
paraphrase wrote: Would KoC flipping town make you lean town on me?

Don't do this. This is libel, and nowhere near what I said.

CF Riot wrote:Question, if I was lynched and flipped town, would you still pursue KoC?
If KoC was lynched town would you still pursue me?

CF Riot wrote:You're right [KoC], you flipping town would not prove that I am town. [This is] another reason why I wouldn't do it, even
if
I were scum.

The reason I'm asking what FS thinks is because I think he's scum. I want to pull as much information from him as I can so that in the event that he is lynched, I can refer back to it later to aid in finding other scum.

Firestarter wrote:So far, with CFR, all he has done is provided links... Useless.

Only if you don't click on them. The links to my posts take you to things I've said. I've also clarified a few of my thoughts about the links I gave to your posts. Whether you think my opinions are valid or not doesn't change the fact that I've laid them out.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:29 pm

firestarter wrote: No case... just OMGUS?

OMGUS is a scumtell, so that'd be why people are calling you out on it.

Firestarter · Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:55 am

as Ive said, if it was OMGUS, fair enough...

But I have tied CFR to KoC, its what I beleive...

Speaking about what I believe....

Some are saying Im only going on feeling, this is correct..
But aren't all town players going on feeling?

I mean, I cant be confident of being right, nor can the rest of town, yet KoC states in his last post that Im only going on feeling...

KoC, what are you going on???