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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:15 pm

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In post 268, mastina wrote:Bottom of page four reads:

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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:16 pm

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her n you have some history?
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:16 pm

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(It helps Hercule's entrance was garbage, but honestly I was just waiting to Mastina to post one of these lists so I can do my standard Mastina play which is just to eliminate players in inverse order of her preference.)

It wins the game more than it loses the game, and that's a fact.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:17 pm

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In post 326, OkaPoka wrote:her n you have some history?
There is one rule with Mastina's reads.

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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:18 pm

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In post 328, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 326, OkaPoka wrote:her n you have some history?
There is one rule with Mastina's reads.

Take her read list, and start killing from towniest to scumiest in order.

You will win the game before you lose it, almost always. Without fail.
To be fair this assumes she is town? Which I suspect she is here, but if she's scum we still end up in a good spot. Just slot Mastina into the middle somewhere and off we go.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:20 pm

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thumb s up i guess you do you
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:21 pm

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In post 330, OkaPoka wrote:thumb s up i guess you do you
I encourage you to join, though I know you probably won't go for it just based off Mastina being a 0% read magnet.

With that in mind, I point you to Hercule's entrance, which was god awful.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:22 pm

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VOTE: hercule
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:23 pm

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In post 331, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 330, OkaPoka wrote:thumb s up i guess you do you
I encourage you to join, though I know you probably won't go for it just based off Mastina being a 0% read magnet.

With that in mind, I point you to Hercule's entrance, which was god awful.
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i can vibe with this but you need to confess your crush on mastina

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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:24 pm

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the thing is i can see hercule prewriting his entrance idk if that makes him scum but it makes him a nerd
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:27 pm

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In post 321, Dannflor wrote:can you expound on that with anything specific?
Can, yes.
Should, not sure--I'll at least say I get very strong deja vu vibes here, but not in a good way.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:29 pm

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In post 19, hercule wrote:helloooooooooooooooooooo my friends it feels great to be here. i made a vocaroo reaction to my role pm but implosion said they would prefer for me not to post it so.

i will try to reel in the insufferably lamisty energy i exude but i do just want to express one thought that's fucking funny to me. i kept referring to my team as the 4/4 town gods last game cuz i told them i wanted everyone to embody our full team flipping town and let it seep into everyone's game cuz i was the only one who flipped mafia and i wanted to manifest myself as town. and then IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED lmaooo 4/4 town gods for real. they all got scumflips on d1 so time for us to do the same.

but still fuck ABR
this is the more damning post in my mind. Pre-writing is one thing if you don;t know your alignment, but this post has to have come post alignment knowledge by definition.

And it's fucking attrocious.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:31 pm

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In post 334, OkaPoka wrote:the thing is i can see hercule prewriting his entrance idk if that makes him scum but it makes him a nerd
Like to be clear, I could also see him prewriting that opening post, which admittedly would only be a thing that matters if he did not know his alignment at the time.

But the second post is the more damning one, and is in stark contrast to the first post as feeling far more improvisational, despite referencing an event that occurred before the thread opening.

It is guaranteed to have been done and known post alignment knowledge, which makes it alignment indicative, so we can toss aside concerns of NAI/Neutrality in favour of looking at it with a lens.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:31 pm

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In post 335, mastina wrote:
In post 321, Dannflor wrote:can you expound on that with anything specific?
Can, yes.
Should, not sure--I'll at least say I get very strong deja vu vibes here, but not in a good way.
it would be helpful if you would
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:34 pm

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shape ing up like an exact continuation of last game lmfao
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:36 pm

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if hercule pre-wrote the entrance post then why did he post it if he's scum? saying he prewrote implies he genuinely believes that scum!him will not post that. if he's scum, he either had a change of heart and went "ehh, i'll post it anyway bc LOL" or he changed it somehow.

you can't just toss it aside and pretend it doesn't exist because he prewrote it.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:40 pm

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In post 328, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 326, OkaPoka wrote:her n you have some history?
There is one rule with Mastina's reads.

Take her read list, and start killing from towniest to scumiest in order.

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i mean... i can't really take you seriously when you talk in these absolute terms and genuinely believe it because a) no one's reads are in expectation THAT much worse than a coinflip b) mastina was literally slightly more right than wrong literally last game
mastina wrote:OkaPoka
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The more and more I read, the more and more this feels right.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 340, innocentvillager wrote:if hercule pre-wrote the entrance post then why did he post it if he's scum? saying he prewrote implies he genuinely believes that scum!him will not post that. if he's scum, he either had a change of heart and went "ehh, i'll post it anyway bc LOL" or he changed it somehow.

you can't just toss it aside and pretend it doesn't exist because he prewrote it.
If he pre-wrote it prior to knowing his alignment, it wouldn't have any tone leakage. If he is scum and chose to post it anyway, it would be for that reason and as a good entry cover to not get early wagoned.

If he's town, he does it because he wanted to post it.

and as both alignments, if he did work on it, he'd like it to see the light of day

so essentially, the first post, if written prior to seeing alignment, is unusable to read him on because even the logic for "why post it as scum" is easily found and also wifom.

Your post here is effectively contentless, because this is a prima facie concept and should be grasped simply. Why did you miss this, and why did you think it was a good idea to challenge in this way? What were you gaining?

Note that the second post is exempt from this above logic BECAUSE IT IS CONFIRMABLE that by this point he has known his alignment, prewritten or NOT.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:42 pm

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IV's response to my Mastina related post combined with their awful semi defense/poke at the pre-write engagement does not look good for them, probably regardless of anyone's alignment, but especially if hercule is scum.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:44 pm

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of things that could've been prewrote before thread unlock, he could've also definitely had 1 and 2 prewritten, at least 2's ideas could've been pre-thought out and he just had to translate it to words
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:44 pm

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Anyway I'm out for the night, work sucked today and I wanna chill.

More people should vote Hercule.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:45 pm

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In post 344, OkaPoka wrote:of things that could've been prewrote before thread unlock, he could've also definitely had 1 and 2 prewritten, at least 2's ideas could've been pre-thought out and he just had to translate it to words
Even if 2 is pre-written, him sayign "i recorded a audio file of my reaction to my role pm" is confirmable that Hercule knows his alignment at the time of writing it, unless you're suggesting he's lying about that.... which would also make him scummy, so I'm not sure where the objection is.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:46 pm

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okay no more, time to peace

night!
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:47 pm

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In post 346, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 344, OkaPoka wrote:of things that could've been prewrote before thread unlock, he could've also definitely had 1 and 2 prewritten, at least 2's ideas could've been pre-thought out and he just had to translate it to words
Even if 2 is pre-written, him sayign "i recorded a audio file of my reaction to my role pm" is confirmable that Hercule knows his alignment at the time of writing it, unless you're suggesting he's lying about that.... which would also make him scummy, so I'm not sure where the objection is.
an addendum: ok i missed that vocaroo thing lmao
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:52 pm

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A few more strategically timed game throws and we can keep this going to 2022

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