If we were threatened by your read on us, I imagine that my approach to you would be more diplomatic and less dickish. It would not be in my best interest to continue our mind-numbing 1v1 because that would make it more likely for you to dig your heels in. Unfortunately, we're town in the inenviable position of having to read you - meaning that I actually need you to spend time thinking about responses to us and I need to climb into your head a little bit to make you uncomfortable. Either that and we're scum godfather or we're just waiting for a goon to get shot so we can put bullets in you.In post 632, SirCakez wrote:I'm not sure what you're getting at hereIn post 626, unwnd wrote:Cakez I feel like the more you convince yourself you're right on Imperium the more it would play into their hand. Like, you're afraid if you're not the one to catch Imperium no one will. I townread you for that amongst other things, but at some point if Imperium is just bigbadscum then other mates would be paying closer attention if they felt Imperium was in trouble, as I'm certain the gun has been waved over their head.
This doesn't absolve anything, but I do think right now they're probably doing other things.
I think right now if Imp is scum here they are very worries about me mainly because the setup empowers me even if no one else believes my read
I'm struggling seeing the Cakez-Us dichotomy as a genuine one.In post 634, ScrewTheTells wrote:From more likely town to more likely scum:
SirCakez
RLotus
Dunnstral
unwnd
Duchess
WhemeStar
Rockhopper
Imperium
MUSHSHAGANA
Not_Mafia
Norfolk Boy1
Note: a lot of things could swing wildly if conditions change. For example,Imperium and Cakez could switch spots depending on Norfolk's alignment.
MUSH is less scummy since my last post. Mostly due to the sheer effort that writing those walls would take...
MUSHSHAGANA, do you have any games you've played where you're scum? (others feel free to link me games if MUSH doesn't answer this, I don't know a fast way to search for this)
The Imperium-SirCakez war seems genuinely heated. I think they're on different teams (leaning scum on imperium for previous reasons), or they're just REALLY emotionally tunnel-visioned if they're both town. I hope it's not the latter. If you're town and you're reading this, take a deep breath lol. It'll be for the better.
In post 778, Nachomamma8 wrote:PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT FOR AT LEAST 96 HOURS. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS POSTED ENOUGH TO GET A SOLID READ ON THEM BEFORE SHOOTING. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Scum have advantage with regards to momentum early. Once we shoot two of them life becomes extraordinarily difficult for them but until that point they have the advantage. Please don't hero shoot and give townies time to develop solid reads on a majority of a playerlist and please be patient and let lurkslots resolve via replacement or being forced to post via harsh prod timers.
Duchess, if you're town here, you will pretty much make us or break us here. If you're town here it's up to you to show RLotus that you are also town to prevent yet another misfire. His big problem with you is lack of original scumhunting so I would highly recommend you try piecing together a readslist on everyone with enough posts to get anything on. I don't think that you continuing your 1v1 with him is going to get you anything but a bullet.
If we were threatened by your read on us, I imagine that my approach to you would be more diplomatic and less dickish. It would not be in my best interest to continue our mind-numbing 1v1 because that would make it more likely for you to dig your heels in. Unfortunately, we're town in the inenviable position of having to read you - meaning that I actually need you to spend time thinking about responses to us and I need to climb into your head a little bit to make you uncomfortable. Either that and we're scum godfather or we're just waiting for a goon to get shot so we can put bullets in you.In post 632, SirCakez wrote:I'm not sure what you're getting at hereIn post 626, unwnd wrote:Cakez I feel like the more you convince yourself you're right on Imperium the more it would play into their hand. Like, you're afraid if you're not the one to catch Imperium no one will. I townread you for that amongst other things, but at some point if Imperium is just bigbadscum then other mates would be paying closer attention if they felt Imperium was in trouble, as I'm certain the gun has been waved over their head.
This doesn't absolve anything, but I do think right now they're probably doing other things.
I think right now if Imp is scum here they are very worries about me mainly because the setup empowers me even if no one else believes my read
I'm struggling seeing the Cakez-Us dichotomy as a genuine one.In post 634, ScrewTheTells wrote:From more likely town to more likely scum:
SirCakez
RLotus
Dunnstral
unwnd
Duchess
WhemeStar
Rockhopper
Imperium
MUSHSHAGANA
Not_Mafia
Norfolk Boy1
Note: a lot of things could swing wildly if conditions change. For example,Imperium and Cakez could switch spots depending on Norfolk's alignment.
MUSH is less scummy since my last post. Mostly due to the sheer effort that writing those walls would take...
MUSHSHAGANA, do you have any games you've played where you're scum? (others feel free to link me games if MUSH doesn't answer this, I don't know a fast way to search for this)
The Imperium-SirCakez war seems genuinely heated. I think they're on different teams (leaning scum on imperium for previous reasons), or they're just REALLY emotionally tunnel-visioned if they're both town. I hope it's not the latter. If you're town and you're reading this, take a deep breath lol. It'll be for the better.
For one, the bolded in the above quote freaks me the fuck out because of the magnitude of the swing. I get suspecting us if Norfolk-scum and suspecting Cakez if Norfolk town; I get how that can affect his read a bit. I don't think that one flip should move his strongest townread to his fourth scumread or vice-versa. Secondly, I find that scum LOVE setting up Scum vs Town dichotomies (gives them two lynches in a row to push if needed!) and this is a bastard form of that. His current thought is if Norfolk is town, then Cakez is scum. If Cakez is town, then Imperium is scum.
I know that we're town. I'm thinking (Tammy has more doubts than I do) that Cakez is town. I don't know about Norfolk, but if he's town here, that's STT setting up three lynches in a row. That's ridiculous.
Finally, I don't like the Mush read. I don't like the time he's spending on her and I don't think that the words he types about her properly reflects her position in the town list. He seems to think that scum doesn't put in the work like Mush already did this game but he's still unwilling to put her above Rockhopper who hasn't posted shit this game? I struggle to believe that. I feel it's more likely that STT is scum who feels obligated to show his work on that Mush read changes so wants to do a bunch of meta bullshit so he doesn't have to push a universal townread.
Liked this post. I'm definitely in the same boat. I really really would love to see STT get blasted to seventh heaven.In post 643, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Oh, and one more thing. Anyone who townreads STT, I'm going to be looking through the lists. I would very much like you to explain yourselves. In great, exhaustive detail. Really beat the hell out of your belief that STT is town, /challenge yourself/, because I will throw down a /solid/ wager that you are wrong. Say, winner gets to control the loser's first shot when they inevitably get the gun (because this is gonna look /real/ bad for whoever is wrong, and they shouldn't trust themselves to hit shit anyway). I'm not joking or exaggerating, STT looks awful here, and you can check Death Curse to see that I'm right. ISO Zdenek, and Ctrl+F "MUSH". Recognize that Zdenek was replaced by Frederick A Campbell, who was our very first scum kill in Death Curse, and opened the door to red flip city. I am putting my bet down, I want anyone who thinks I'm wrong to put their money where their mouth is and/or eat lead.
They said they were shooting but I didn’t realize they meant right then.In post 782, WhemeStar wrote:i didnt even see it and was so confused on why trhread was locked
Where in any of my posts did it say that I thought he was scum, all I mentioned that is that the shot would be 'interesting'In post 787, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not really seeing a progression from Unwnd here, for example.
I don't mind the timing of the shot, but I feel like the target came out of left field and we didn't really talk about it and then they shotIn post 784, Imperium wrote:They said they were shooting but I didn’t realize they meant right then.In post 782, WhemeStar wrote:i didnt even see it and was so confused on why trhread was locked
This and the stuff following it is a good pointIn post 778, Nachomamma8 wrote:For one, the bolded in the above quote freaks me the fuck out because of the magnitude of the swing.
You and Imperium.In post 791, unwnd wrote:...Like who?In post 790, Dunnstral wrote:There were people egging that shot on.
You're speaking like a politician right nowIn post 789, unwnd wrote:Where in any of my posts did it say that I thought he was scum, all I mentioned that is that the shot would be 'interesting'In post 787, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not really seeing a progression from Unwnd here, for example.
Im not trying to call him out on a bad shot. I meant dumb as in very unexpected and I felt like there wes very little discussion regarding it.In post 786, Imperium wrote:Let's try to avoid dragging the dead's reputation, everyone. It's okay to disagree but it's frustrating when you're dead in a game and people are saying you did something dumb and you can't even defend yourself.
Convince lotus to shoot me so I can go on a killing spree of scumIn post 797, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:PEDIT: NOT liking Dunn or Wheme here at all. Wheme gets out of my townreads now.