Open 93 - Near Vanilla: Game Over, Mafia Win!

[Doktor Per]

Geeeeze guys! Why are you so slow to vote off this player. WE ARE ON PAGE 2 NOW!!! How long will you suffer a witch to live!?

[Doktor Per]

MAFIAEDIT: PAGE 3

The end is nigh!!!

[armlx]

Are you a Gimbo alt?

[Darox]

Are you a Gimbo alt?

Gimbo hunting can wait till tomorrow, for today, we need to lynch lurker scum.

[Doktor Per]

Who is Gimbo? That is, no I'm not. I merely revel in hamming it up and overreacting.

[retrowiz]

unvote. Vote:Mafiassk

I usually play poorly, but at least I play.

[Korts]

Second Vote Count.

(5) MafiaSSK -Darox, Doktor Per, ChaosOmega, thegeckoj, retrowiz

(1) ZazieR -SpamWise
(1) Darox -ZazieR
(1) armlx -killa seven
(1) Doctor Per -Sineish
(1) retrowiz -Apothecary

not voting:

armlx, MafiaSSK, Gamma

[ZazieR]

I really don't see why everyone is voting SSK. Perhaps he lurks, perhaps he says that he's scum because the game is moving slow, however I have never played with him before and that's why I give him a chance.
Besides Darox, if he's lynched we'll go into night which gives the scum a chance of NK our best player. Do you really want to sacrifice SSK for that?

[retrowiz]

and "who" is our best player?

[armlx]

I suggest we don't answer who is the best player.

Vote retro

for digging at that and taking the SSK bait.

[ZazieR]

Why are you asking? It has been just a few pages now. Besides it's an 'if' situation. SSK isn't lynched yet. However when he's lynched, because he's lurking then we lose a better player as well due to the scum. It's better to have a lurker in the game then to lose two ppl.

[armlx]

D1 auto lurker lynching is bad. Actually,

FOS everyone on the wagon except Darox

. I definitely think Darox was just baiting this.

Oh, and no more SSK votes, he is at L-2 by my count.....

[Gamma]

lolwut

This wagon should be fubar'd, the only reason it's still alive is because of the lurkerhunt.

Quicklynches on day one don't help.

In a perfect world, people would not be afflicted by tunnel vision.

For now,

Vote retrowiz

and

fos everyone else on the mafiassk wagon

for being really stupid.

[Doktor Per]

I refuse to be called really stupid, I followed my dice and then presented shitty arguments about why MafiaSSK should be voted, mostly revolving around his name. (then for a moment defending the poor guy)

But I would be a hypocrite if I'd move my vote as of now, since no one has caught my attention yet. But I do find the probability of some (if not all) scum on the bandwagon high, lest of course he is scum, then Gamma becomes quite the suspicious cookie. But that is the nature of the Wine in Front of You, everything is bullshit and all you have is your gut instinct. I've learned to trust mine, no MafiaSSK does not trigger it, but he doesn't feel right either, he's staying away from discussion while he should be calling us colossal retarded wankers. Maybe he figures that if he says something it will be looked on as scummy (which it of course would, like everything else he'd say)

Bottom line.

I'm going to stick to my vote till someone gives a compelling argument for someone else or my gut tells me to switch my vote.

Also.

Should I roll a d12 to see if I should roleclaim? Should I also roll it to decide which role to claim?

[Sineish]

Bottom line.

I'm going to stick to my vote till someone gives a compelling argument for someone else or my gut tells me to switch my vote.

Thanks for this post, it helped me understand the reasons for what you did, so my vote is not relevant any more.

Unvote

usually play poorly, but at least I play.

MafiaSSK is playing, maybe not posting very big posts, but definately not lurking.

Vote: retrowiz

for taking us to L-2 so quickly.

I understand lurking can be frustrating and often anti-town, but quicklynching lurkers on day1 is far worse.
To all the people on the MafiaSSK wagon: What do you want from him now that he's at L-2?

[killa seven]

I have never seen mafiassk as scum, ive seen him as town.. so the meta argument wont get me to vote for him. his 2 or so posts wont do it untill i see something scummy of him.

[armlx]

Pretty sure SSK just doesn't do anything ever.

[Apothecary]

I was actually wondering about the MafiaSSK wagon? People seemed To leap on that one.
Was it really all just bait?

[Doktor Per]

I think everyone was trying to be too smart for their own good, or meta-as-fuck.

[Doktor Per]

Also, Gecko and Omega. How very suave of you two, your activities have been duly noted. For those of you without the thirst for knowledge let me summarize it for you.

vote: MafiaSSK

Obvious lynch for today.

unvote, vote: MafiaSSK

i have meta him and i dont like the looks of his page, admitted lurker playstyle is unhelpful at best, scummy at worst. plus he doesnt even have our game on his list, makes me suspicious of him.

plus his only two posts are one confirming(sorta) and one incourging people to meta him, which seems weird to me.

Leave the non-game related stuff where the non-game related stuff belongs. He is a young one still and with careful training he can be crafted into a player that helps the game. (or hinders it as his past suggests) Am I wrong? Shouldn't we all, save for the scum (who should be pretending) be trying to find scum and kill instead of getting rid of that one guy that has an annoying laugh and keeps botching his punchlines?

[Darox]

I just want to see MafiaSSK hang like the lurker scum he is.

MafiaSSK voters
1: Darox - Devilishly handsome. Votes MafiaSSK for being lurker scum.
2: Doktor Per - Implies heavily that his vote was dice based.
3: ChaosOmega - Calls MafiaSSK the obvious lynch for today.

4:

thegeckoj - States meta and that lurking is antitown at best. Also mentions that not having the game in watched topics is somehow suspicious.
5: retrowiz - Implies that MafiaSSK is not playing the game.

People questioning MafiaSSK wagon
- 3 votes
1: retrowiz - Asks why MafiaSSK is at L-3 on page one
2: Sineish - States that game has been open for only 24 hours and doesn't prove SSK is lurking yet.
3: killa seven - Asks if the SSK wagon is a joke.

4:

Sineish - Votes Doktor Per because he is the only one who stated a random reason for voting SSK but has been calling for a bandwagon.
5: Lurker Scum - Asks Darox if he has bothered to meta about his lurking scummy habits.
6: ZazieR - Thinks the meta on the self admitted lurker scum is a joke reason to vote.
- 5 votes

7:

ZazieR - Thinks Lurker Scum should be given a chance. Then goes on to say that lynching him would be bad because then the scum would get a night kill.
8: Armlx - Says day one lurker quicklynches are bad.
9: Gamma - States that the wagon is only alive because it is on lurker scum. Also mirrors Armlx's stance on quicklynches.

10:

Sineish - Defends SSK, stating that he is not lurking because he has posted 3 one liners.
11: killa seven - Doesn't think SSK's meta counts and won't pursue him unless he starts making scummy posts. Given SSK's tendency to lurk this seems foolhardy.

Unvote, Vote Sineish, FoS ZazieR & thegeckoj

We can always lynch lurker scum later on.

[Sineish]

4: Sineish - Votes Doktor Per because he is the only one who stated a random reason for voting SSK but has been calling for a bandwagon.

I didn't vote him because he was

calling

the MafiaSSK vote a bandwagon.
I voted because he made 2 posts

encouraging

a bandwagon on him, after initially claiming to have random voted.

Also, the FoS on ZazieR I get, for the same reason you voted me, but why the FoS on thegeckoj?

[Darox]

Look at the bolded numbers. I didn't like the way he joined the wagon.


Also, I didn't say you said he was calling the MafiaSSK vote a bandwagon.
What I mean by 'has been calling for a bandwagon' is that you said he was encouraging a bandwagon to form and grow.

The main point there is that you attacked Doktor Per for promoting random wagons but decided to ignore the people who joined and pushed the wagon without explicitly saying that their votes were in some way random.

[MafiaSSK]

This is a really stupid wago. I can't drag out many scumtells from posts nor do I have the ability to lengthen short little paragraphs. So instead, I post little and scumhunt usually by PBPAing.

[ZazieR]

Sorry Darox for thinking about other players. I don't see the point why to vote a lurker. If you don't want him to lurk you give him pressure votes or you ask questions to him. Lynching him will only help if he's scum.
Let's go back to the situation where SSK is the lurker townie. Do you really want to lynch him for lurking and sacrifice at the same town a pro-town player?

You should only lynch the players that you see as scum, not unhelpful but possible pro-town players. I hope you can see now, why I wrote that post where you FoS'ed me for.